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Strangelove

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yaright said:
It's interesting to me that you asked whether a person could define the difference. Everything Jesus said, every thing He did including; the direction He took, north, south, east and west, Upward, downward, crossing over from one side to the other, using creation in a specific form.... and all this has hidden in it the difference between sin and accidental sin. In His walk, Jesus reveals that law also judges accidental sin in a way I could not see without Him.
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You might have to run that one by me one more time bud.
 
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4runner

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Re: I know you wanted 4runner to answer this Zone, buuuuuut...

lil_christian said:
I know that you were asking 4runner, but I know the answer! and I can't contain it!

What am I worthy of? Well, considering our sinful nature, absolutely nothing.

What have I done? I have sinned.

What do I deserve? To be condemned.

BUT there is a positive side to these answers!! Guess who came and saved us from condemnation and from our sins becoming totally fatal to us? JESUS!! :D And He has given us mercy and He gave us everything we didn't deserve...eternal life, grace, mercy....and much much more.
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lil christian, do not let these people make you believe this lie about yourself. Satan wants you the think this way about youraelf, not God. Satan says you are worthless, God says you are worthy of His love, and the blood of Christ. Satan says you are a sinner, God says you are the righteousness of God in Christ. Satan says you deserve condemnation. God says you deserve reconciliation. Please dear one, believe God, not these ministers of Satan.
 
Strangelove

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Re: I know you wanted 4runner to answer this Zone, buuuuuut...

4runner said:
lil christian, do not let these people make you believe this lie about yourself. Satan wants you the think this way about youraelf, not God. Satan says you are worthless, God says you are worthy of His love, and the blood of Christ. Satan says you are a sinner, God says you are the righteousness of God in Christ. Satan says you deserve condemnation. God says you deserve reconciliation. Please dear one, believe God, not these ministers of Satan.
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Relax man...she only commits ACCIDENTAL sins (mistakes)!

She's fine.
 
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Strangelove said:
Sinless and perfect are not the same thing according to you. Sinless means you dont sin and PERFECT means not even any ACCIDENTAL SINS.
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Sinless means you do not sin at all whether on purpose or on accident. Perfect means you never make any mistake at all. you are all knowing, all powerful, you are God.

You are a liar and a deceiver, and true son of your father.
 
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4runner

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Re: I know you wanted 4runner to answer this Zone, buuuuuut...

Strangelove said:
Relax man...she only commits ACCIDENTAL sins (mistakes)!

She's fine.
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The problem is what she believes of herself. She needs to align your heart with God's heart and believe what God says, and begin to see herself as God sees her. Not as you, Satan or others tells her she is.
 
lil_christian

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Re: I know you wanted 4runner to answer this Zone, buuuuuut...

4runner said:
lil christian, do not let these people make you believe this lie about yourself. Satan wants you the think this way about youraelf, not God. Satan says you are worthless, God says you are worthy of His love, and the blood of Christ. Satan says you are a sinner, God says you are the righteousness of God in Christ. Satan says you deserve condemnation. God says you deserve reconciliation. Please dear one, believe God, not these ministers of Satan.
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But as you said before, God demands holiness and perfection. And when Adam and Eve messed up in the Garden, well, that went down the drain. And we lost everything. We aren't exactly worthy of a Savior. I mean, it IS our fault we sinned. And so Jesus could have said "You know, I'll just stay up here. It's THEIR fault they sinned anyways." but He said instead "I'll go down there. I want them to be saved from that wretched Satan. I love them." and He went down. We were given grace.
 
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To be who God has called us to be we need to see Jesus as He is as King, as Bridegroom, and as Judge, and we need to see ourselves as God sees us, not as we see ourselves, not as the world sees us, and certainly not as the Devil tries to tells us we are. We need to know who Christ really is and who we are in Christ.
 
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4runner

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lil_christian said:
But as you said before, God demands holiness and perfection. And when Adam and Eve messed up in the Garden, well, that went down the drain. And we lost everything. We aren't exactly worthy of a Savior. I mean, it IS our fault we sinned. And so Jesus could have said "You know, I'll just stay up here. It's THEIR fault they sinned anyways." but He said instead "I'll go down there. I want them to be saved from that wretched Satan. I love them." and He went down. We were given grace.
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That is exactly right Jesus thought we were worthy of Salvation, so He came lived, and died for us. Will you now tell Jesus He was wrong and you are not worthy?
 
Strangelove

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4runner said:
Sinless means you do not sin at all whether on purpose or on accident. Perfect means you never make any mistake at all. you are all knowing, all powerful, you are God.
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So the only difference between you (a sinless person...lol)and Jesus is that He didnt forget where he parked His car or forget to buy milk at the store?
 
Strangelove

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4runner said:
The problem is what she believes of herself. She needs to align your heart with God's heart and believe what God says, and begin to see herself as God sees her.
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I recon she's doing a stunning job on that count.

Your not a very good false teacher are you?

You cant even deceive kids!

(no disrespect to you lil one I think your just brilliant and mature beyond your years).
 
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Strangelove said:
So the only difference between you (a sinless person...lol)and Jesus is that He didnt forget where he parked His car or forget to buy milk at the store?
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The difference between me and Jesus is He is the Savior, and i am His child. He is the deliverer, and i have been delivered ect... Do you get the picture?
 
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4runner

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Strangelove said:
I recon she's doing a stunning job on that count.

Your not a very good false teacher are you?

You cant even deceive kids!

(no disrespect to you lil one I think your just brilliant and mature beyond your years).
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You seem to be better at presenting falsehood than me, I will give you that.
 
Strangelove

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4runner said:
To be who God has called us to be we need to see Jesus as He is as King, as Bridegroom, and as Judge, and we need to see ourselves as God sees us, not as we see ourselves, not as the world sees us, and certainly not as the Devil tries to tells us we are. We need to know who Christ really is and who we are in Christ.
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Who is Christ REALLY?

A guy just like you but who just wasnt forgetful?

LOLZ!

Man your getting slaughtered here. Maybe its time for another holiday?
 
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Strangelove said:
Who is Christ REALLY?

A guy just like you but who just wasnt forgetful?

LOLZ!

Man your getting slaughtered here. Maybe its time for another holiday?
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Jesus is King, Bridegroom, and Judge. I would be careful what I said about him. you will stand before Him one day.
 
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Christianity is not about us, it is about Jesus. What we get out of it is of little consequence. What should be on our mind is having something to give Him when we face Him one day. We only have one chance to give Him love and obedience here in this life. 80yrs give or take a few to serve Him in this life. This is the only chance you will ever get to love Jesus through pain, to obey by faith, to trust without full understanding, to war against sin, to love your enemy ect... You are now able to give Jesus a gift in this life that you will never be able to give Him the rest of eternity. In the age to come there will be no pain. We will know as we are known. We will serve Jesus for all eternity, but in this life only can we give Him our lives, fragile as they may be.
 
lil_christian

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4runner said:
That is exactly right Jesus thought we were worthy of Salvation, so He came lived, and died for us. Will you now tell Jesus He was wrong and you are not worthy?
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Well, we weren't exactly "deserving" of anything. But Jesus gave us everything we didn't deserve not because we're worthy, but because He loves us like nobody's business (I was gonna say "loves us like heck" but that didn't seem to match up too good. lol so that's the only other thing I could think of). Because He loves us, He gave us grace. And so because of that love and grace, because of Jesus, we ARE deemed worthy of getting into Heaven and...it's just indescribable. The grace that Jesus gave us, and Jesus' love toward us...it's all indescribable. It's not anything words will ever be able to describe.
 
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4runner

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lil_christian said:
Well, we weren't exactly "deserving" of anything. But Jesus gave us everything we didn't deserve not because we're worthy, but because He loves us like nobody's business. Because He loves us, He gave us grace. And so because of that love and grace, because of Jesus, we ARE deemed worthy of getting into Heaven and...it's just indescribable. The grace that Jesus gave us, and Jesus' love toward us...it's all indescribable. It's not anything words will ever be able to describe.
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Jesus think you are worthy, Jesus thinks you deserve His love, Jesus think you are worthy of His Grace. He loves you and wants you to align your opinion of you with His opinion of you. Jesus thinks you are beautiful, pure, righteous, holy. He wants you to believe this of yourself.

This I am a worthless sinner, crap breaks His heart.
 
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