I have used His Word. (John 3:15,16,18; 6:40,47; 7:38-39; 11:25,26; Acts 10:43; 11:17; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:22-26; 4:5-6; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; 15:1-4; Ephesians 1:13; 1 John 5:11-13 etc..)
How many times can those of dead faith choose to accept Jesus and be saved?
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As many times as it takes. I suppose you are referring to an apostate.
Hebrews 6:4-6
English Standard Version
4 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.
The Biblical word is parapíptō ("fallen from a close position") refers to a close-follower of Christ who becomes a defector. It suggests this person (at least at one time) was a believer.
1. To fall aside
2. (figuratively) to apostatize
This word is found in Hebrews 6:4.
Chapter 6 of Hebrews is speaking a warning to the recipient believers but also an encouragement that he felt these believers were strong, mature, and ready for deeper teachings.
Some get hung up on the word impossible in Hebrews 6:4 but it is also translated as powerless. Why? Simple. We are powerless to save ourselves.
Verse 6 contains the word crucifying in the continuous since.
Verse 8, But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.
Verse 8, explains that if some rejects Christ, it is as if he/she is crucifying Christ over and over again. BUT they are only near being cursed and cut off. When does that occur? In the END, it is to be burned.
Conclusion: Grace is always free and always open. God is a gracious, loving, patient, and forgiving God. But for the apostate, they are powerless to save themselves if they continue to reject Jesus. Their in a worse state after knowing and experiencing the truth which puts them nearer to judgment (cursed).
"What Saith The Scripture?" In God's Dispensation Of Grace, Today?:
1) Grace Through faith
a) NOT of ourselves
b) NOT of works (Ephesians 2:8-9 AV)
2) NOT "by works of righteousness" BUT According To His MERCY (Titus 3:5-7 AV)
3) "Being Justified By faith we have PEACE With God!" (Romans 5:1 and cf Romans chs 3-5! AV)
Plenty More Scriptures, if you wish...
Amen.
I guess you will never see that we can't enter heaven with our sins and we also can't enter without JESUS filling us with the Holy Ghost.
Foundation is the key, you don't have one if you will not accept HIS word the way it's written.
No need for you and I to speak of HIS word because YOU TWIST HIS word to suit your needs, we are following two different books, I"m following HIS your following yours.
Without JESUS as your foundation you will be lost.
This is what his word says how to be reborn.
Acts 2:38-39
King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
This is your version of what Peter said.
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent unto the remission of your sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
But by your words you haven't' received the Holy Ghost.
But this is what JESUS warns us about who changes HIS WORD.
Revelation,
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Just looking at the cross, how about show me in HIS word how we get rid of our sins.
Or don't you think we have to?
It's a very important question.
Sin separates us from GOD.
Sin will not enter heaven.
You don't seem to understand the difference between receiving the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:45; 11:17; 15:8; Romans 5:5 etc..) which is the permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit at the moment of salvation for all believers (1 Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 1:13) and being filled with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:4; 4:8; 4:31; 7:55; 9:7; 13:9; 13:52 etc..) which is a subsequent experience which can be repeated and where the Holy Spirit controls and guides every aspect of us and providing empowerment for ministry, which may or may not be accompanied by speaking in tongues.
I accept His word. I just don't accept your eisegesis or your false gospel of salvation by a rigid baptism formula + speaking in tongues, which is not salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. You don't even believe that Jesus is God, so you have a "different" Jesus. (2 Corinthians 11:4)
Oh, the IRONY.
1 Corinthians 3:11 - For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
You fail to properly interpret your pet verse here and you also fail to properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching your conclusion on doctrine.
The only logical conclusion when properly harmonizing scripture with scripture is that faith in Jesus Christ "implied in genuine repentance" (rather than water baptism) brings the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit (Luke 24:47; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 5:31; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18). *Perfect Harmony*
As Greek scholar AT Robertson stated: Change of number from plural to singular and of person from second to third. This change marks a break in the thought here that the English translation does not preserve. The first thing to do is make a radical and complete change of heart and life. Then let each one be baptized after this change has taken place, and the act of baptism be performed “in the name of Jesus Christ” (εν τωι ονοματι Ιησου Χριστου — en tōi onomati Iēsou Christou).
Greek scholar A. T. Robertson authored Word Pictures in the New Testament. In his comments on Acts 2:38 he said, - “One will decide the use here according as he believes that baptism is essential to the remission of sins or not. "My view is decidedly against the idea that Peter, Paul, or any one in the New Testament taught baptism as essential to the remission of sins or the means of securing such remission. So, I understand Peter to be urging baptism on each of them who had already turned (repented) and for it to be done in the name of Jesus Christ on the basis of the forgiveness of sins which they had already received.” The illustrations of both usages are numerous in the N.T. and the Koin, generally (Robertson, Grammar, page 592).
Acts 2 - Robertson's Word Pictures in the New Testament - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org
Actually, I have received the Holy Spirit several years ago when I came to repent and believe the gospel/place my faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. (Acts 10:43; 11:17; 15:7-9; Ephesians 1:13) Unlike you, my faith is exclusively in Jesus Christ for salvation and is not in water baptism or any other works. Don't confuse receiving the Holy Spirit with your charismatic chaos.
I have not changed His word. I read His word in context then properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching my conclusion on doctrine, as I already shared with you a number of times, but you have your pet verses and your pet doctrines, and you are not interested in seriously considering the truth.
Yea, I'm not reading.
Have you been baptized in JESUS name? JESUS in Mark 16:16 tells what happen if not.
Has JESUS filled you with HIS spirit? JESUS in Mark 16:17 tells what happens if HE did.
Tell me what other scripture in HIS word do you need to rewrite?
I have been baptized in Jesus name, which is a reference to authority by being baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. (Matthew 28:19) But since you reject the Trinity, you reject Jesus' words and Matthew 28:19. I have experience being filled with the Holy Spirit, yet these signs in Mark 16:17 were promised to the apostolic community (Matthew 10:1) which were not uncommon in the early church age but were not promised to all believers in all ages. (1 Corinthians 12:27-30) I don't need to rewrite His word, but you need to read His word in context and properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching your conclusion on doctrine.
Yes you do alter HIS word.
Acts 2:38-39
King James Version
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Junk mail.
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent unto the remission of your sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
So your the one who will not accept it.
The trinity is not bible, in Matthew 28:19 JESUS reveles who HE really is.
HIS DISCIPLES knew who HE was, you don't.
I have NEVER shared my opionoin olny HIS word.....
Poving you will not accept HIS word, JESUS say you will speak in new tongues you say they will not.
As you can see your problem is with JESUS not me.
If you knew how read and to rightly divide HIS word you would see 1 cor Paul is speaking in a church setting.
Who knows maybe one day you will?
Revised.
Junk mail.
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent unto the remission of your sins, and some of you ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto some of you, and to some of your children, and to some that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God may call.
You are not fooling me for one second. You have a "different" Jesus and a "different" gospel, and you can't seem to see anything beyond your pet verses or your eisegesis.
Continue to ignore the fact that faith in Jesus Christ "implied in repentance" (rather than water baptism) brings the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit if you choose. (Luke 24:47, Acts 3:19; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18) I will continue to properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching my conclusion on doctrine. (2 Timothy 2:15)
The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
The gospel is hid to those who don't believe. (2 Corinthians 4:3,4) Salvation by water baptism reciting a rigid formula using the exact words "in Jesus' name" only during baptism followed by speaking in tongues is not the gospel. No rigid baptism formula, no tongues = no salvation is a false gospel.
Correct, correct, and Correct! If we DO NOT recognize God's UNDILUTED Wrath
because of sin, Then everything below will be "a moot point", Correct?:
Who is "God, The Judge" Who "Sits On The Great White Throne At The LAST Day"?:
"I saw A Great White Throne, and Him That Sat on it, from Whose Face the earth
and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw
the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and
another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead Were Judged
out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up
the dead which were in them: and they Were Judged every man according to their
works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is The Second Death
[ God's UNDILUTED Wrath = PENALTY of sin, Correct? ].
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
(Revelation 20:11-15 AV)
God, The SON, The LORD Jesus Christ, Correct?:
"For The Father Judgeth no man, but Hath Committed All Judgment Unto The SON:
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that
honoureth not The SON honoureth not The Father Which Hath Sent Him."
Believest thou This Truth?
Thus, to avoid The Second Death, it is NOT "how we get rid of our sins", since we Cannot!;
It IS However, "What He "Has Done/Does/Will Do" That Is The Most Important!:
Are you "Washed In God's ( Jesus Christ's ) OWN BLOOD" (Acts 20:28 AV)?
If so, the Following Multitude Of Plain And Clear Scriptures Are TRUE For
all the ONE-Time Only BLOOD-WASHED saints In Christ (God!)!
God's Eternal Salvation Is, In Biblical Fact, "in view" In God's Revelation Of The Mystery,
To/For Gentiles, Today, In His Dispensation Of The Grace Of God, Biblically Confirmed
By God's Guarantee!!:
God's OPERATION On All New-born babes In Christ!
+ Updates: (of # 11) + (of #14)
+
God's Eternal Life Assurance
+
God's Eternal Life Insurance
Precious friend, @Ouch, we humbly implore God Almighty Today, That you will Be Convicted
( By His Blessed HOLY Spirit ) of His UNDILUTED Wrath, and Thereby Will humbly receive His
UNDILUTED Grace! As well as His Peace, Mercy, And LOVE!
And then hereafter, Please Be Very Richly Encouraged And Edified
In Christ, and In His Precious Word Of Truth!
Amen.
I read the question differently. I assumed it asking about the number of opportunities that a lost person gets to make a decision to place their trust in Christ. So I answered, "Unlimited".
AMEN, we are saved by grace we also need to belive, repent and obey HIS word.
I know all about the cross, but that is something JESUS did for us.
But HIS mission did not end at the cross, matter a fact that was HIS worst moments when HE took all of our sins.
Since HE did what HE did, ow do we take advantage of what HE did and how do we get rid of our sin's?
What about the Holy Ghost, how do we know if HE filled us?
What do we have to do to be reborn according to HIS word?
Continue to ignore the fact that faith in Jesus Christ "implied in repentance" (rather than water baptism) brings the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit if you choose. (Luke 24:47, Acts 3:19; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18) I will continue to properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching my conclusion on doctrine. (2 Timothy 2:15)
The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
The gospel is hid to those who don't believe. (2 Corinthians 4:3,4) Salvation by water baptism reciting a rigid formula using the exact words "in Jesus' name" only during baptism followed by speaking in tongues is not the gospel. No rigid baptism formula, no tongues = no salvation is a false gospel.
Your twist on GODS word,
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent unto the remission of your sins, and some of you ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto some of you, and to some of your children, and to some that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God may call.
GODS WORD.
Acts 2:38-39
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Isn't that what you said?
In the past when I asked you what we have to do to be reborn, why haven't you answered me?
1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
What was that message that Paul preached in 1 Cor. 15:1?
Tell me what I have to do to be reborn, with scripture please.