The woman of Proverbs 31
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God gave you a brain with the intent that you use it. It's on you and only you if you choose not to do so.
We need to understand and forgive Mr. Dino, his un- Christlike nature, anti-love, prideful, arrogant, authoritarianism, which PROVES his being a pseudo-christian & False Prophet, there's no telling what foolishness, will come out of his mouth, so don't let him "get to you" as that is his Anti-Christ spirit, speaking. He has much book knowledge, but lacks the Spirit.
Yes ! Pray for him ! & DON'T act like him, .. It's degrading, the Love of God. ... Please !
John 15:20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.
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Absolutely! He told us to be like the noble Bereans, not to read everyone’s written output to gain knowledge.
He didn't say don't read what other people write or listen to what they say. He merely wrote that what is heard and read be checked out against what the Bible teaches.
Here is an explanation of Rev 14:14, that I understand is correct.
Revelation 14:14 describes a scene of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Bible says, “And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.” It is very clear that this text is talking about the coming of Christ, as many times the Bible describes His coming in clouds accompanied by all of His angels. He will come as King of kings with glory and power wearing a golden crown upon His head. Interestingly, He will come not only as a King, but also with a sharp sickle in His hand. A sickle is a tool of farmers, so why will Jesus come as a King of kings, and at the same time come as a farmer?
Jesus Christ is coming back with a sickle in His hand because the second coming of Christ is the time of harvest. The harvest is the children of God, those who reflect His image. “And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” Verse 15. A similar picture is seen in Mark 4:29: “But when the fruit is brought forth [ripe], immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.” These verses give us an idea that Jesus is coming back as soon as the earth is “ripe.”
I read Proverbs 31, and believe it is a beautiful description of a Righteous, Christ like wife, and though referring to an actual non- prophetic wife, ... many of those attributes would be of characteristic of Christ's Bride, as they ARE descriptive of the Righteousness of Christ.
A Model for the Christian Wife:
That passage “describes the character and duties of a true, god‑loving woman” the virtues listed—industry, wisdom, kindness, faithful stewardship, and reverent fear of the Lord—are practical qualities every Christian woman should cultivate in her home and family life. The text is meant to instruct women how they can “glorify God through the ordinary responsibilities of daily life.”
Not an Allegorical Representation of the Church
Scripture often uses figurative language (e.g., the Church as the bride of Christ), but this does not apply that symbolism to Proverbs 31. You can distinguish between passages that are clearly typological (such as Revelation 19:7–9) and those that are straightforward moral instruction. The Proverbs passage is placed in the “wisdom literature” category, intended to give concrete advice for family life rather than to serve as a prophetic picture of the universal Church.
Blessed Sabbath Brother..
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Christ gave us an example as to what "Believing Christ" John 3:16, looks and acts like, being a Christian, "It's on you and only you if you choose not to do so." I TRY to live by, "WWJD" ...
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My point is, we don’t really need other peoples’ books on Bible subjects to understand what He wrote. The Spirit teaches us…..
Yes, the Spriit teaches if one is willing to accept the disciple and sacrifice that may be involved.
I could offer an apology for misreading, but as you responded with the above vitriol, I won't. There is no point in throwing pearls to swine who turn and attack at the first opportunity.
Regarding your 22 "Disagree" icons on my posts, that's an excellent way to display your frustration and immaturity.
Romans 12 v 6-8 We have different gifts according to the grace given us. If one’s gift is prophecy, let him use it in proportion to his faith; if it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach; 8if it is encouraging, let him encourage; if it is giving, let him give generously; if it is leading, let him lead with diligence; if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully.
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If you’re talking about preachers, some teachers are good, some aren’t. You still need to be like the noble Bereans to see if what is being taught is correct. In the end it comes back on you.
Obviously for new converts, they need a bit of help to understand the gospel. Normally, they learn pretty fast.
No, teachers.
So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, (Eph. 4:11)
"Preacher" is not among those gifts.
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Well thank you for that, for a moment there, I thought I was living in an episode of the Twilight Zone, the one with the anti-American Canadian lunatic.
Here is an explanation of Rev 14:14, that I understand is correct.
Revelation 14:14 describes a scene of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Bible says, “And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.” It is very clear that this text is talking about the coming of Christ, as many times the Bible describes His coming in clouds accompanied by all of His angels. He will come as King of kings with glory and power wearing a golden crown upon His head. Interestingly, He will come not only as a King, but also with a sharp sickle in His hand. A sickle is a tool of farmers, so why will Jesus come as a King of kings, and at the same time come as a farmer?
Jesus Christ is coming back with a sickle in His hand
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If I may address an error.
Actually it is not Jesus the Christ that is describe in Revelation 14:14 ".... one sat like unto the Son of man...."
"One like the Son of man" - These are the Elect of God', the 'Sons of God', the "called out and chosen few", the "Faithful Believers in Spirit".
The return of Jesus coincides in the same manner that Jesus is taken up to Heaven in clouds.
Acts 1:11
who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”
I would share this Truth, but I get the feeling no one wants, nor feels they need this Truth shared in Spirit. So I will leave it at that.
Revelation 14:14 describes a scene of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Bible says, “And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.” It is very clear that this text is talking about the coming of Christ, as many times the Bible describes His coming in clouds accompanied by all of His angels. He will come as King of kings with glory and power wearing a golden crown upon His head. Interestingly, He will come not only as a King, but also with a sharp sickle in His hand. A sickle is a tool of farmers, so why will Jesus come as a King of kings, and at the same time come as a farmer?
Jesus Christ is coming back with a sickle in His hand
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If I may address an error.
Actually it is not Jesus the Christ that is describe in Revelation 14:14 ".... one sat like unto the Son of man...."
"One like the Son of man" - These are the Elect of God', the 'Sons of God', the "called out and chosen few", the "Faithful Believers in Spirit".
The return of Jesus coincides in the same manner that Jesus is taken up to Heaven in clouds.
Acts 1:11
who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”
I would share this Truth, but I get the feeling no one wants, nor feels they need this Truth shared in Spirit. So I will leave it at that.
Your Welcome,
AND, we ALL need to pray to our God, that we ALL "overcome" those same attitude characteristics...
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
v24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
v25 Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
v26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believes in Jesus.
v27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? No: but by the law of faith.
v28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
I NEED to "overcome" those same "anti-love" traits as @ Mr Dino. So! Help me God ! I pray ....
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The “one like unto the Son of man” of Revelation 14:14 is distinctly Jesus Christ Himself—not “the elect of God,” “the sons of God,” nor “the faithful believers in spirit.” The passage draws a clear distinction between the divine Reaper (Christ) and the harvested (His people).
1. The Identity of “the Son of man”
In Revelation 14:14 the figure sits upon a white cloud, crowned with gold, and holds a sharp sickle. These are symbols of divinity, royal authority, and judgment—attributes belonging only to Christ, not to mortal believers. The title “Son of man” refers to the same Messianic figure Daniel saw “coming with the clouds of heaven… and there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom” (Daniel 7:13‑14 KJV).
Jesus Himself applied this title to His divine mission, declaring that “the Father… hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man” (John 5:27 KJV). Thus in Revelation 14:14, Christ appears not as one among the redeemed, but as the appointed Judge who commands the angelic harvesters.
2. The Role of the “Elect” or “Sons of God”
The “angels” of Revelation 14—the messengers of the Three Angels’ Messages—represent the faithful people who proclaim the gospel before the harvest, not the one who performs it. Christ “is coming the second time, with power unto salvation,” while those who receive and proclaim the truth are His cooperating messengers, not the Judge.
The “sons of God” (Romans 8:14) and “the elect” (Matthew 24:31) are the ones being gathered when Christ reaps the harvest: “He shall send his angels… and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds” (Matthew 24:31 KJV). Thus, they are the subjects of the reaping, not the reaper himself.
3. Separation Between Christ and the Redeemed
The two harvests of Revelation 14—grain and grapes—represent the righteous and the wicked, both ripened by their choices. The “Son of man” reaps the harvest of the righteous into God’s kingdom, while the wicked face destruction in the winepress of wrath. Christ alone possesses the prerogative of judgment and salvation, while the believers represent the result of His redeeming work.
Therefore;
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The “one like unto the Son of man” of Revelation 14:14 is distinctly Jesus Christ Himself—not “the elect of God,” “the sons of God,” nor “the faithful believers in spirit.” The passage draws a clear distinction between the divine Reaper (Christ) and the harvested (His people).
1. The Identity of “the Son of man”
In Revelation 14:14 the figure sits upon a white cloud, crowned with gold, and holds a sharp sickle. These are symbols of divinity, royal authority, and judgment—attributes belonging only to Christ, not to mortal believers. The title “Son of man” refers to the same Messianic figure Daniel saw “coming with the clouds of heaven… and there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom” (Daniel 7:13‑14 KJV).
Jesus Himself applied this title to His divine mission, declaring that “the Father… hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man” (John 5:27 KJV). Thus in Revelation 14:14, Christ appears not as one among the redeemed, but as the appointed Judge who commands the angelic harvesters.
2. The Role of the “Elect” or “Sons of God”
The “angels” of Revelation 14—the messengers of the Three Angels’ Messages—represent the faithful people who proclaim the gospel before the harvest, not the one who performs it. Christ “is coming the second time, with power unto salvation,” while those who receive and proclaim the truth are His cooperating messengers, not the Judge.
The “sons of God” (Romans 8:14) and “the elect” (Matthew 24:31) are the ones being gathered when Christ reaps the harvest: “He shall send his angels… and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds” (Matthew 24:31 KJV). Thus, they are the subjects of the reaping, not the reaper himself.
3. Separation Between Christ and the Redeemed
The two harvests of Revelation 14—grain and grapes—represent the righteous and the wicked, both ripened by their choices. The “Son of man” reaps the harvest of the righteous into God’s kingdom, while the wicked face destruction in the winepress of wrath. Christ alone possesses the prerogative of judgment and salvation, while the believers represent the result of His redeeming work.
Therefore;
- The “one like unto the Son of man” is Jesus Christ, divine Judge and Lord of the harvest.
- The “elect,” “sons of God,” and “faithful believers in spirit” are His redeemed people—distinguished from Him as the harvest is from the harvester.
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