Does Jesus and Paul contradict each other?
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I have, and I don’t see how Paul fails the test. Perhaps you can explain why you think he does, based on the remaining four passages.
Matthew 26:28, where Jesus speaks of his blood being poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins
- Matthew 26:28: "For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins".
- This is the only one I can find that would give any reference to Christ's blood forgiving sins. Christ is talking about putting his life on the line for his ministry and establishing a new cavinant. To fulfill this covenant you as well must put you life on the line. There is no greater love then to offer ones life for a friend.
One day you will say, lord lord we are zealous for your truth, and god will say, no you are zealous that others will receive the truth you have been given. I do not condemn you so I will not be condemned. Those who follow gods laws and are in love have everything they need, and those who are not in gods love have nothing of value. Im done, believe what you want.
- Matthew 16:24-26: "Whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it." This verse introduces a central paradox: true life is found by sacrificing the desire for self-preservation. It argues that the pursuit of worldly gain is ultimately meaningless compared to spiritual gain.
- Matthew 10:39: This verse echoes the same theme, stating that the one who "finds his life will lose it," while the one who "loses his life for my sake will find it".
- Cost of discipleship: Jesus' words are a call to endure hardship and persecution for the sake of his message. This concept was particularly relevant to early Christians who faced martyrdom for their faith.
You have explained the verses out of context without explaining how we must lay down our lives to fulfill the covenant.
Again you are either raving or trolling, if you do not know the sacrifice of animals was to atone for sins,
and if you are unaware that Paul claimed to preach the Gospel because of Christ's commission on the Damascus road.
Show me why I should bother showing you anything else, when you reject what has already been shown.
Naw, it is at these points in discussions that I place my bet and wait to collect when I see you in heaven,
because I believe Paul's teaching that arguing (playing verbal ping-pong) is sinful. Happy trails!
Malachi 3:6 declares, “I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.” Similarly, James 1:17 tells us, “Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.” Numbers 23:19 is clear: “God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should change His mind. Does He speak and then not act? Does He promise and not fulfill?” Based on these verses, no, God does not change. God is unchanging and unchangeable.
Even though you bring me burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them. Though you bring choice fellowship offerings, I will have no regard for them (Amos 5:22).
Oh wait guy remember what I told you in Amos. Yah im going to chang my mind with Jesus.
Romans
25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[a] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—
With what shall I come before the LORD and bow down before the exalted God? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? [Implied NO!] He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God (Mic 6:6, 8).
Wait guys no I chang my mind. You can now say a profession of faith and believe. You no longer need to act justly or love or have mercy or walk humbly in God anymore. But yah you should love but your no longe under the law.
My goodness you are lost. The mosaic covenant is not found in Leviticus. Its in Exodus and Deuteronomy.
Leviticus had to do with the priesthood only. You had to be part of the tribe of Levi and the assisted with the Aaronic priesthood. Jesus is not a high priest of the lavitical or Aaronic. Jesus is the high prist of the Malchezidek priesthood which King David established. King David and the Malchezidek priesthood did not partak in animal sacrifice.
Sacrifice and offering you did not desire—but my ears you have opened—burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require (Ps 40:6).
You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. (Ps 51:16)
Once Aaron became priest after the 10 commandants, all other priesthoods were eliminated. There for making the requirement in Leviticus null and void. So the Lavitical priesthood is now an unacceptable fring group of priests no longer considered as priests but more like decons for Aarons blood line. Malchezidek is the highest priesthood from the bloodline of David.