Does Jesus and Paul contradict each other?
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The word is “you’re”, and you have provided nothing of value. So Jesus is Jewish… so what? Jesus is the vine; Judaism is not the vine.
Gentiles are the ones who are "grafted in," while the Jewish people are represented by the original "olive tree" root. Through the metaphor in Romans 11, the apostle Paul explains that some of the natural branches (representing some Jewish people) were broken off due to unbelief, making way for wild branches (representing Gentiles) to be grafted into the tree and share in its blessings.
In the Old Testament, the vine is a recurring symbol for Israel, God's chosen people. The imagery describes God as the vinedresser who planted and tended to Israel, his "vineyard," which was expected to produce good fruit but often produced "wild grapes," symbolizing unfaithfulness and apostasy. This metaphor highlights God's care and his expectations for his people.
I'm going to take this opportunity to discuss the Boston accent.
For example, nobody dares to correct a person when they say 'your' when they mean 'you are'.
It's simply understood what they're talking about. You could say this becomes an art form into itself but it's not for everyone's taste.
You add an R where it's not needed and remove an R where it's needed.
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It's like watching Picasso at work, really.
From what were the branches broken? To what will they be grafted?
If you answer, "Judaism", then your whole argument fails, for Jews weren't broken off of Judaism.
Jesus tells us with unmistakable clarity that He is the vine.
John 15:1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.
John 15:4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
John 15:5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
Spoken English is different from written English. Typically, when someone is speaking (without a strong accent), you can't see that they've dropped the apostrophe and the 'e'. Even so, when someone consistently says, "Yawr" when the correct word is pronounced, "yooer", you can rightly suspect they don't know the difference.
I'm going to take this opportunity to discuss the Boston accent.
For example, nobody dares to correct a person when they say 'your' when they mean 'you are'.
It's simply understood what they're talking about.
where is the assumption that my Opinion is authoritative? All scripture is inspired by God the word says. That includes what Paul said does it not? The phrase "all Scripture is God-breathed" comes from 2 Timothy 3:16, which emphasizes that the Scriptures are divinely inspired and authoritative.
If Paul contradicts His Lord from whom Paul was taught by that would be an oxymoron would it not?