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No we don't for we know that Jesus dwells in our hearts however we kick against the idea of Jesus been a mere man as you claim He to be that only.

God sent an example for us to follow, to be like, to immitate, to walk as he walks, have His same mind, same SPirit. Jesus didnt send God, God sent the man, God created the man. You worship the creature more than the creator of that creature.
 
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No we dont...we just kick against your idea of Christ in you!

Not my Ideah at all. It is Christ in me who is my hope of glory. I didnt invent that, that is Gods great Ideah not mine, I only accepted the fact.
 
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You know...Gary, I'm not angry, I'm not fighting when I say this...

You yourself have been mislead, so I can't really fault you for misleading others. I honestly didn't realize the extent of your...confusion, for lack of a better word. I am truly sorry for you.

Cronjecj, I'm glad you asked him those questions. It cleared some things up for me.

Truly sorry because of the Christ ithat is n me? I do understnad why you feel that way.


What would you want me to be? To confess that Christ cant come to me and open His heaven to me and take away my sin? You want me to confess that God didnt intend to send His Spirit, who is the Christ, in me and make me one with Him? You would have me deny that what Jesus came for and to give to me what he had promised from the Father?

Let me ask you why is your way better than His way for me? What have you to offer me that is better than what He came and gave me?
 

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And that is the problem in understanding… you are supposed to have His same mind, His same Spirit … let this same mind be in you who was in Christ Jesus was written for a purpose.

And once again God is a Spirit and has made His abode in the man. He came to Jesus in Spirit in Matt 3:16 and opened all heaven to the man. Why cant you believe that He did? Who told you that God didn’t come to Jesus and open His kingdom to him?
God is a Spirit until He became flesh (Jesus Christ) and He ascended after His flesh and bone body resurrection and His body became glorified.
 

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God sent an example for us to follow, to be like, to immitate, to walk as he walks, have His same mind, same SPirit. Jesus didnt send God, God sent the man, God created the man. You worship the creature more than the creator of that creature.
Once again Jesus was not just any man He was God.

The Word (God) became flesh.

John 1:1-2
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
 
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God is a Spirit until He became flesh (Jesus Christ) and He ascended after His flesh and bone body resurrection and His body became glorified.

God never became flesh, no flesh inherits the kingdom of God. God always has been Spirit and never has changed and He always will be SPirit the same as He was in the beginning. And Jesus was glorfied in Matt 3:16. Same glorification we all live in when we recieve from God the same in us. Christ in you is your glory. He comes into mans flesh by His SPirit says the Lord.
 

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God never became flesh, no flesh inherits the kingdom of God. God always has been Spirit and never has changed and He always will be SPirit the same as He was in the beginning. And Jesus was glorfied in Matt 3:16. Same glorification we all live in when we recieve from God the same in us. Christ in you is your glory. He comes into mans flesh by His SPirit says the Lord.
John 1:1-2
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

1 Timothy 3:16
Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.
 
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God sent an example for us to follow, to be like, to immitate, to walk as he walks, have His same mind, same SPirit. Jesus didnt send God, God sent the man, God created the man. You worship the creature more than the creator of that creature.
so does this count as him denying the deity of Christ yet or do we have him to say something even more explicit?
 

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God never became flesh, no flesh inherits the kingdom of God. God always has been Spirit and never has changed and He always will be SPirit the same as He was in the beginning. And Jesus was glorfied in Matt 3:16. Same glorification we all live in when we recieve from God the same in us. Christ in you is your glory. He comes into mans flesh by His SPirit says the Lord.
Jesus is the Word of God and He became flesh then 30 years later He was vindicated by the Spirit in Matthew 3:16.

Matthew 2:2
and asked, Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.

Matthew 2:11
On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.

Revelation 1:17-18
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

The Most High Eternal God which is Spirit became flesh (John 1:1-14) and he was called Jesus from Nazareth - Worthy be the lamb which IS theChrist and the only Christ for He has no equal.

Amen.
 
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let it stay...we all need a thorn in the flesh
we are perfected in weakness.:D
 
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Jesus is the Word of God and He became flesh then 30 years later He was vindicated by the Spirit in Matthew 3:16.

Matthew 2:2
and asked, Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.

Matthew 2:11
On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.

Revelation 1:17-18
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

The Most High Eternal God which is Spirit became flesh (John 1:1-14) and he was called Jesus from Nazareth - Worthy be the lamb which IS theChrist and the only Christ for He has no equal.

Amen.
WHere is the one who has been born King? Cant see Him can you? We in Christ are Kings and Priests. Here is the one you are looking for Christ in you.

All who do see Him fall at His feet as dead, that old man does die and the new man does arise, the one that you can see.

As long as you do not apply the book to you, you will never get the meaning of these stories in it. You will sit outside looking in with mystery of it. But the moment you apply it to yourself, you will be as Jesus was when Gods Spirit came to him and opend up all of heaven to him, and opend up the mysteries of. Until then all you will see in a god is a child lying in a manger as a god. That child is you and you will never see Him until you do come to him in like manner. In His image.

All these things written in the book is for you about you.
 
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Not even the Holyspirit will talk of Himself but will glorify the Son.

If all you can do is look at everything for YOU...you will be deluded as one would notice.

Lets glorify the King. Jesus is who we magnify. Our spirit doesnt glorify self. It glorifys Christ Jesus.

The testing of the spirits is in the message....is it true?....is it about the gospel?...is it about Christ Jesus?
 
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Not even the Holyspirit will talk of Himself but will glorify the Son.

If all you can do is look at everything for YOU...you will be deluded as one would notice.

Lets glorify the King. Jesus is who we magnify. Our spirit doesnt glorify self. It glorifys Christ Jesus.

The testing of the spirits is in the message....is it true?....is it about the gospel?...is it about Christ Jesus?


Amen and I am His son. Christ is glorified in me. I cant help but lift Him up the one who came and took away my sin.

It is a matter of indifference to God's grace how abominable I am if I come to the light; but woe be to me if I refuse the light and to walk in His light, same understanding.
(see John 3:19-21).

Redemption is a miracle. Saul was turned in the blink of an eye from Pharisee who thought he was doing God great favors by persicuting those who had the Christ and changing him to Paul who was a Christ like figure who gave up his own will to be like the Christ that came and made His abode in him.

There is nothing miraculous about things we can explain. It isn’t natural to obey and obeying is something we have to will. The miracle in redemption is He came and I obeyed and He turned me into His image.

Some have told me it is not Gods will that I obey and let Him have His way in me and that I am a liar for even making such comments that He and I are one. Mocking the very God who is supposed to be in them as well.


Some have told me that it isn’t Gods will that He take away my sin and in fact is impossible to be the righteousness of God in Christ because I am just a dirty ole sinner. Telling me that it is impossible for God to take away sin. Mocking the very God who comes and takes away the sins of this world.


Some has told me that I can’t have the mind of Christ and that I cant have His same Spirit as He and when I say I do they call me liar … mocking the very God who said He would come to you and be in you.


Some say that I need to follow them and their way, that His way for me is not the right way, mocking the one who did come and showed me His way and He is the way for me to be.


Some has told me that God is flesh, a man, and if I don’t follow that god of flesh that I am following the wrong God who is Spirit and has made His abode in me, mocking the God of Spirit who came and made His abode in Jesus himself and opened all of heaven to him and to all who will receive from Him the same as Jesus did.

It all comes down to redemption, I have been redeemed by the blood of the lamb who came and gave His life to me, His life in me. Paul is perfect example of that redemption, and if the same has not happened in you … then all these things you accuse me of are the very things he redeems you of.


 

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WHere is the one who has been born King? Cant see Him can you? We in Christ are Kings and Priests. Here is the one you are looking for Christ in you.

All who do see Him fall at His feet as dead, that old man does die and the new man does arise, the one that you can see.

As long as you do not apply the book to you, you will never get the meaning of these stories in it. You will sit outside looking in with mystery of it. But the moment you apply it to yourself, you will be as Jesus was when Gods Spirit came to him and opend up all of heaven to him, and opend up the mysteries of. Until then all you will see in a god is a child lying in a manger as a god. That child is you and you will never see Him until you do come to him in like manner. In His image.

All these things written in the book is for you about you.
In heaven on His throne.

No its not about us, its about God and HIS Glory NOT OUR glory and the fact that He was manifested in flesh to show His love for us.

i rest my case x2.
 
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In heaven on His throne.

No its not about us, its about God and HIS Glory NOT OUR glory and the fact that He was manifested in flesh to show His love for us.

i rest my case x2.

No it is ALL about you, God doesn’t need your help, He knows who He is. It is you who is searching for who you are supposed to be in Christ. And Salvation is Gods Spirit manifest in your mortal flesh. He manifested in you, Christ formed in you. It is about YOU. And His love for us in not in sympathy for us, His love in us is to be as He is and one with Him.

For God is love and He resides in you, Christ in you. Behold the kingdom of God is within you just as Jesus said it is. For God is a Spirit and that SPirit is love. Charity.
 
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Gary noone mocks me for gloryfying Christ. I disagree anyone mocks anything more than your testimony
they are not mocking Christ. You talk about yourself. You talk about you. Christ is a secondary issue...He has been
talked about as the cause yes...but then its all about you. So IF there has been mocking and i have watched this
thread it wasnt at all about who we are in Christ...it was really all about you.
 

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No it is ALL about you, God doesn’t need your help, He knows who He is. It is you who is searching for who you are supposed to be in Christ. And Salvation is Gods Spirit manifest in your mortal flesh. He manifested in you, Christ formed in you. It is about YOU. And His love for us in not in sympathy for us, His love in us is to be as He is and one with Him.

For God is love and He resides in you, Christ in you. Behold the kingdom of God is within you just as Jesus said it is. For God is a Spirit and that SPirit is love. Charity.
Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.

His Spirit dwells in my heart.

No, Its about God
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Gary noone mocks me for gloryfying Christ. I disagree anyone mocks anything more than your testimony
they are not mocking Christ. You talk about yourself. You talk about you. Christ is a secondary issue...He has been
talked about as the cause yes...but then its all about you. So IF there has been mocking and i have watched this
thread it wasnt at all about who we are in Christ...it was really all about you.
You have done nothing but mock the Christ that is in me and condemn me for having Christ in me.

And where have I talked of myself? No where, not one time have ever lifted up me only Christ be in me, and is suposed to be in you the same.

You may have watched this thread but you havent listen to a word in it. Yes Christ is about you, all about you, and who you are in Him. Not one time can you quote where I lifted up myself only Christ be lifted up in me, He and I are one as I am suposed to be.

If you cant be these things Christ came to give you, dont condemn me only because I do. And that isnt lifting up me at all, that is lifting up the one who delivered me from me. He can deliver you from you as well.