As long as they are still alive, they have the opporunity to turn from unrighteousness and unto God.
If they don't...their fate is sealed.
Sin daily?
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If they don't...their fate is sealed.
I fail to see any connection.
The thorn could have been anything from a speech impediment, to a crushed in skull from his stoning.
Paul was the worst of those Christ died for.
But he didn't keep persecuting the church after his conversion.
BTW, Paul wrote..."Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame." (1 Cor 15:34)
Does that sound like something from a sinner ?
what a judgmental Westboro type of mindset. You must be a troll.
1Ti 1:15 This is a trustworthy saying, worthy of full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the worst.
1Ti 1:16 But for this very reason I was shown mercy, so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His perfect patience as an example to those who would believe in Him for eternal life.
the text is not he issue its the Condemnation of the poster :
"Backsliders are worse off than they were before they got born again in the first place! Imagine that!"
"They are definitely on their way to hell once again."
Guess praying for the backslider is useless from this stand point . I guess all his house is saved too? So, one can write off everyone else.
That is just a paraphrase of wht Pter wrote.
Is that not true ?
Keep praying for everyone.
Who knows if they are close to actually turning from sin ?
No one knows if thy will be saved, as the "race" is not yet over.
Thta is not the way of a Christian, as we have been taught to pray, even for enemies.
What about those that did repent of all their sins and then later they went back to them
Are they still in right standing with the Lord as they live in sin once again?
Really? So the warnings God gives in His Word written to Christians concerning what happens to those who turn back to sin cvan be ignored then?
What about future sins?
Is 1 John 1:9 error?
Yeah we know no Christian ever got drunk.
The reformers got drunk, like Martin Luther who was a known drunk
There new sins show that they did NOT 'turn from' sin !
Their repentnaces were false.
Not a chance.
The warnings are to be heeded, so we don't follow after those returning to the darkness.
What future sins will a servant of God commit ?
No, it is the road map for sinners to start walking in the light...which is God...in whom is no sin.
I know that...don't you ?
Drunks walk after the flesh...not afer thr Spirit.
Paul writes..."Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (Gal 5:19-21)
No, the actually did turn from sin... and later turned back to their sin.
It's called backsliding and the Lord talks about this in His Word.
Everyone at some point after having gotten born again has turned away from the Lord to do something sinful.
James 4:17 - anyone who knows what is right but does not do it is guilty of sin.
This includes you and all the rest of us. Anybody claiming they have never fallen short of God's perfection after having been born again and liars and the Lord said all liars will have their part in the lake that burns with fire because lying is a sin.
I dunno. You're going to sin a few more times before you die so you tell me.
Anytime you know something is wrong and you decide to do it anyway, you have committed sin.
After having gotten born again, you failed to use 1 John 1:9 to confess your sins to the Lord so you could be forgiven and cleansed of all unrighteousness?
You're claim is there's never been anyone who got born again and then later committed the sin of getting drunk?
Those teaching false doctrine are also walking after the flesh which is what the reformers did and are doing.
Those being led by the Holy Spirit wouldn't be scripture twisting and ignoring large portions of scripture like the reformers did and are doing.
In the grand picture, they did not turn from sin. Had they, they wouldn't have sinned again.
Nobody who turns from sin, commits another sin.
Take that to heart, in everyday living.
Sorry you feel that way.
I know God is capable of keeping everyone that loves Him free from sin.
In fact, He had this written for us..."There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." (1 Cor 10:13)
Don't hold your breath awaiting me to satisfy a lust of the flesh, as they are dead and gone.
It is written..."And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Gal 5:24)
I agree.
Having been reborn from God's seed, I am incapable of bringing forth Adam's fruit.
Yes.
I agree.
Don't you think that those who make accommodation for continued sin, are false teachers ?
I agree.
If the fruit of a teaching leads to more sinning...it is NOT of God.
You know shared it before I was just lying on the bed reading His word and in the margin said if your heart convicts you you won't get any thing from God. I got up said "I quit" I meant it. I said "my heart convicts me 24/7 of sin. I got up, reached for the door, and he said, "What is righteousness?". I said, "Okay." As I turned around, I said, "Righteousness is right standing with God." He asked, "How do you get righteousness?" I said, "By believing in Jesus Christ." Something happened. I cried and cried. It was like being blind, and then you can see.
I've always been taught to make sure it's written, so I instantly opened up the Bible and made sure that it said, "If you believe in Jesus Christ, you are righteous." That is how God sees every believer. They're washed in the blood of Jesus. He died once and for all. There is no sin he holds against us anymore. That's what Jesus said to the man by the well after he healed him: "Go and sin no more, unless a worse thing come upon you." That's what sin does. Jesus said, "If you were blind, you'd have no sin. You say you see, your sin remains." pffft We don't have a right to freely sin. And I don't know one believer in all my life that has ever said, "Ooh, I can freely sin, and Jesus will forgive me."
Brother, you don't know the heart. All you see is the flesh, and you judge. You tell them if they sin, to repent, make it right, and go on, like all of us. If the King of kings, Lord of lords, is not judging you or condemning you, what are you doing now? What matters is if you are following what you believe, not what others think about this subject. My salvation relies on Jesus Christ. It's in Him, not in what you think about sin or not. I do have my questions about some of these things you ask and the way you talk about them. It's not loving.