Eve was not created in Genesis 1:28. The first mention of sex between Adam and Eve is recorded in 4:1 -- after the Fall.
Was sex Adam and Eve part of the curse
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Then who's the female mentioned in Genesis 1:27?
Also, something's first mention doesn't equate to first time it occurred.
I've given this a lot of thought, and if it (tree of the knowledge of good and evil) is a metaphor for something else, I believe that something else is fire. Without knowledge of and access to fire, the world as we know it does not exist
Ive heard another interpretation. Have to look it up. Women dont have fruit in their Womb either and Satan was a Bipedal Reptilian or he wouldnt have been cursed slither. So there are a lot of Metaphors going on.
^^^ who cares
which is where I arrived at. God commanded it before the fall, so there was possibly a basic process enacted, however there was a lot that changed after they knew they were naked. My main argument was that Eve would use man’s sexual desire against him as a form of control. There is a commonality of men suffering from sexual desire. It’s similar to Cain trying to master the “sin…waiting at the door.”
I find this quite sad, but what you wrote is useful in understanding where you are coming from.
I encourage you to do some more research on the nature of the "serpent". I highly recommend the work of the late Dr. Michael Heiser at his website drmsh.com.
Thanks. Ive already sourced Michael Heiser. I can recommend Gary Wayne, Scott Mitchell, L A Marzuli, Tim Alberino, Steve Quayle and Derek Gilbert for you.
At face value the Tree is a Fig Tree, as thats what they are said to have used as Clothes. So the Forbidden Fruit are Figs. But I dont believe its meant to be rhetorical.
I think you may have missed the point I was making.
There was no death before the Fall, therefore anything that was 'food' was not the physical food we eat now; it was spiritual food.
Example:
| 1 Corinthians 10:3-4 - And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. |
Eating plants, fruits etc., either causes the plant to die or causes the cells inside the plant to die. Either way, it is a form of death which again did not exist. That concept extends to animals as well. Animals cannot eat other animals because that would cause death as well. Thus, both plants and animals were immortal before the Fall.
Example:
| Ezekiel 47:12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine. |
Clearly, we can see in the verse that not just one tree but *all* trees are immortal, yet they are food. Again, the verse is symbolic of consuming the Word of God.
Note that the 'leaf thereof is for medicine'. That is what the Tree of Life is all about. Leaf = Covering. Life will be repaired.
That was after the Fall. Your reference describes a form of temporary, earthly 'presence' which was not the same as the permanent Heavenly presence in Eden before the Fall. They are two very different concepts. Nice try though.
Thanks @KelbyofGod for your response.
The following is my opinion and belief:
As you saw me mention earlier, we are tripartite beings. A 'living soul' is just the genome and spirit. It cannot manifest a physical body on its own. God must 'clothe' it with skin and flesh:
That is what God did here:
Could you do me a favor? Just watch a few minutes of this video starting at 25:25:
The Rabbi teaches that Adam and the woman were not physical. This is not 'stupid' as the OP claims. I have done extensive research on this.
The Last Adam is a 'quickening spirit' which means he can manifest a physical body on his own as the angels do when they appear here on earth. He also has the power to clothe others with a body. It's a bigger deal than most realize.
Yep, a natural body must be added to the living soul as 'clothes'.
Yep. Being born again from Heaven is a process that involves being reconceived into a new genome/spirit combo.
Specifically, it is more like a gene-splicing operation:
Those that are on the milk are unable to comprehend how profound this all is. The Bible describes DNA, Quantum Mechanics, Particle Physics, Cell Biology, Genetic Engineering, etc. etc. The information is embedded in symbolic form to be understood when the time was right. That time is now. Many are finally waking up to all of this.
For example, Zechariah describes a 'Stone with Seven Eyes'. Science calls that a Nucleobase or Nitrogen Base. Seven 'eyes' are symbolic of seven Electrons which is the element Nitrogen. Remember, the Spirit was in the Wheels:
Again, the 'eyes' are symbolic of Electrons. Two wheels are two Electron Orbitals or 'shells'. Those atoms are the building blocks of life (Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen).
The 'stone' is symbolic of male testicles or seed, depending on the context:
That is why Jesus is sometimes referred to as a 'Rock'. He is Abraham's Seed:
Again, Abraham's testicles/sperm is the 'Rock'. Sarah's womb is the 'Pit'. Life is birthed from the pit of the earth or womb. The Beast is birthed from the bottomless pit, or the womb of creation.
Anyhow, I said all of that to say this....
God is going to take the Stone with Seven Eyes. i.e., the Nitrogen Base, and he will write 'engrave' a new genome with it:
This new genome 'upgrade' will remove sin. Thus, Salvation is a genetic engineering process. You folks need to prepare for this Revelation when the AI picks up on this and begins to use this info to its advantage.
The following is my opinion and belief:
As you saw me mention earlier, we are tripartite beings. A 'living soul' is just the genome and spirit. It cannot manifest a physical body on its own. God must 'clothe' it with skin and flesh:
| Job 10:11 - Thou hast clothed me with skin and flesh, and hast fenced me with bones and sinews. |
That is what God did here:
| Genesis 3:21 - Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them. |
Could you do me a favor? Just watch a few minutes of this video starting at 25:25:
The Rabbi teaches that Adam and the woman were not physical. This is not 'stupid' as the OP claims. I have done extensive research on this.
The Last Adam is a 'quickening spirit' which means he can manifest a physical body on his own as the angels do when they appear here on earth. He also has the power to clothe others with a body. It's a bigger deal than most realize.
Yep, a natural body must be added to the living soul as 'clothes'.
Yep. Being born again from Heaven is a process that involves being reconceived into a new genome/spirit combo.
Specifically, it is more like a gene-splicing operation:
| Romans 11:17-24 - And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?" |
Those that are on the milk are unable to comprehend how profound this all is. The Bible describes DNA, Quantum Mechanics, Particle Physics, Cell Biology, Genetic Engineering, etc. etc. The information is embedded in symbolic form to be understood when the time was right. That time is now. Many are finally waking up to all of this.
For example, Zechariah describes a 'Stone with Seven Eyes'. Science calls that a Nucleobase or Nitrogen Base. Seven 'eyes' are symbolic of seven Electrons which is the element Nitrogen. Remember, the Spirit was in the Wheels:
Again, the 'eyes' are symbolic of Electrons. Two wheels are two Electron Orbitals or 'shells'. Those atoms are the building blocks of life (Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen).
The 'stone' is symbolic of male testicles or seed, depending on the context:
| Leviticus 21:20 - Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; |
| Leviticus 21:20 (New International Version) - or who is a hunchback or a dwarf, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles. |
That is why Jesus is sometimes referred to as a 'Rock'. He is Abraham's Seed:
| Isaiah 51:1-2 - Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged. Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him. |
Again, Abraham's testicles/sperm is the 'Rock'. Sarah's womb is the 'Pit'. Life is birthed from the pit of the earth or womb. The Beast is birthed from the bottomless pit, or the womb of creation.
Anyhow, I said all of that to say this....
God is going to take the Stone with Seven Eyes. i.e., the Nitrogen Base, and he will write 'engrave' a new genome with it:
| Zechariah 3:9 - For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day. |
This new genome 'upgrade' will remove sin. Thus, Salvation is a genetic engineering process. You folks need to prepare for this Revelation when the AI picks up on this and begins to use this info to its advantage.
| Genesis 37:9 - And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. |
- Sun = Father = Greater Light
- Moon = Mother = Lesser Light
- Stars = Children = Abraham's Seed
| Genesis 2:4 - These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens |
Generations is a word often used for genetics in the Bible. The Heavens and Earth have genetics according to the above verse. There is way more going on here than the nursery rhyme stuff we are taught.