Yes, you are. I tried asking for clarification on his original post to no avail.
Obedience REQUIRED
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I don't associate with catholics and reformed people (both modern day pharisees)
A lot of people don't accept what the Lord says in His Word these days.
That's too bad for them.
No, I was never employed by the IRS
Of course they did and they turned away.
Hebrews 3:12 - Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
*A person cannot depart from something they were never a part of to begin with
*Notice that this is speaking to "brethren" so this is a warning from the Lord to Christians.
1 Timothy 4:1,2 - Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron
*A person cannot depart from the faith if they were never in the faith begin with
You sure about that? Not one person teaching catholicism or reformed theology?
have you already received the promise?
Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
(eternal salvation)
thks
the one taught by the apostles!
mt 28:19-20
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
acts 1:2
Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
acts 2:42
And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
thks
this is all God and not us?
jude1:21
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
thks
reformed people are not pharisees.
if you think this, you have some issues.
so your the modern day pharisee.
Keep trying to save yourself and pumping your chest..
Amazingrace, yes, it is entirely of God and not of ourselves. True obedience is given by God and is strictly obedience to the faith. When Jude 1:21 states to keep yourselves in the love of God, it is not establishing a conditional performance contract based on human willpower. We must look at the brackets of the exact same chapter to understand how a child of God is kept. Look at the very first verse, Jude 1:1, which identifies to whom the letter is addressed. It states clearly that it is written to them that are "sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called." The verses establishes that preservation is a finished fact in Christ before the instructions were even given. Now look at the closing bracket in Jude 1:24. The text drops an absolute hammer on human performance by stating, "Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy." The text does not say man keeps himself. It explicitly states that Christ is the sole Savior who possesses the ability to keep God's elect family - one and all - from falling. The commands to the family are the fruit of being preserved, not the cause of it.
They add to and take away from God's Word which is what the pharisees did that got Jesus upset at them.
Proverbs 30:5-6 - Every word of God proves true; He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words, lest He rebuke you and you be found a liar.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 - All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
No, I accept what God says in His Word and have not been indoctrinated by reformed theology or catholicism
Of course those having been indoctrinated by man made religion claims those following God's Word are in error.
While anyone is welcome to answer posts here, I asked the original poster because I want to understand his view. I am not asking because I have no understanding of Scripture.
ps 23:3
paths of righteousness for His name sake.
what's His names sake?
Mt 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
mt 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Lk 1:68-69
68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
His name sake is eternal salvation!
the path of righteousness leads to eternal salvation!
Lk 1:75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
thks
Actually man is to be co laborers with God. We are to submit to the leading / power of the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 3:9 - For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
Romans 6:16 - Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
If God does everything and man does nothing then that brings forth the idea that it's God's fault for everyone not being saved and it's God's fault if a Christian continues walking in sin.
This is one of the false teachings that came out of reformed theology and is not biblical in the least.
1 Peter 1:14-17 - As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
2 Corinthians 13:5 - Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
1 Corinthians 9:27 - But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway (reprobate)
Paul knew he had responsibility and it was not God doing everything.
No, not all had faith. I was one who initially believed. I went out the front at a Billy Graham crusade when I was 16. I believed that Jesus was God and I believed that He died and rose again. But it did not stick and I was not saved, even though I signed a decision card. About 5 years later, I received Jesus fully. I knew the difference between the two experiences.
Intellectual acceptance of facts is not faith. Getting emotionally stirred is not faith either.
lets at least obey the golden words of Christ!
Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learnof me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
1 Peter 5:5
Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
Luke 6:31
And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
and
1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
thks
John 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
(( will never inherit the kingdom of God or attain to eternal salvation ))
mt 25:30
Eph 5:2-6
gal 5:1
gal 5:19-21
gal 6:7-8
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20
1 tim 5:12
rev 21:8
rev 21:27
rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
(who walk NOT AFTER THE FLESH)
Gal 6:7-8
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Amen?
A pharisee is a legalist who thinks they were saved by their works. They crucified christ because Christ rebuked them and their religious works. and called them self righteous.
A reformed person does not believe they are saved by works.
ok. so why are you adding to his words?
It seems you have been indoctrinated by a form of catholicism, if you think you can lose salvation.. Because that is modern day phariseeism.