Is being slain in the Spirit Biblical?

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yaright

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ada said:
1 Thessalonians 2:15
"(The Jews) - Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men"
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There is an Old Testament law that clearly states that the Jews did what was required of them; But because the law is given in creation language (a gift you do not have), most all religions of men cannot see how the laws were fulfilled.

You personally played a role in His death; it was your sin He died for......

If Jesus was not crucified, who would you then blame because there would be no salvation for you....

NONE!
 
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yaright

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ada said:
1 Thessalonians 2:15
"(The Jews) - Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us, and please not God, and are adversaries to all men"
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The Apostles are Jews; If you are going to quote a Jew, it would be helpful if you understood the context it is given in.


Those who are saved in Christ are taking on the nature of a Jew.

Jesus Christ is a Jew.

This is why you despise most everyone on this site. Its gotta be driving you crazy...
 
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yaright

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zone said:
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wait a minute; lets see if there's a pulse.

Speaking of creatures that were once unclean for Peter....

The Lord spoke to Peter and said, "Rise, kill and eat"

Immediately the Gentiles began to prophecy; This is food for the soul of a man who hears it.

Both these things took place at the same time so that Peter ( and all who desire to know) would come to understand the purpose of the law
 
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yaright

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cronjecj said:


Mr Hinn practising the so called 'slain in the spirit' which he blows out 'fire' and all of them gets knock down. If you ask one of the victims they will always tell you they are on fire but they can't see the flames...

Not biblical at all. Stay away from this!
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When the Gentiles were sent to Peter, there is no mention of Peter shoving them onto the ground, and there is no mention of him throwing fireballs at the Gentiles. The Spirit entered the willing vessels and immediately they began to prophecy. There is no place in all the New Testament that Jesus (who holds the powers of Heaven in His hands), shoved people to the ground. In my younger years I attended a christian gathering, and I went up front with many others, wanting the gift of the Holy Spirit. When the man shoved me, I looked at him and he said to my face in a whisper, fall down.... so I pretended. Yep, the heads of churches get away with this. It' s called freedom of religion. Others have said it better; Don't get caught up in it.
 
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jimmydiggs

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ada said:
The law has been perverted by the traditions of the elders and their filthy talmud and black magic kabbalah, zohar.
The unique selling point for the jews today, derived from the kabbalah, is the satanic sanctified holocaust religion as the coming theocratic counterfeit trying to replace Calgary.
Jesus Christ alone THE WORD, LOGOS is the LAW,fulfillment and salvation plan and not the letter of the law that kills you!.


Maurice Pinay Blog: Nun-Accomplice to Counterfeit Israel's 'Holocaust' Proselytism to Speak at College of Saint Elizabeth
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Remember folks: The Nazis were the good guys. :rolleyes:
 
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yaright

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Crossfire said:


I seriously hope that comment was meant to be a joke... a very bad one at that.
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It's taught as a legitimate method of speaking, it's the use of irony in the form of sarcasm.
 
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Crossfire

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yaright said:
It's taught as a legitimate method of speaking, it's the use of irony in the form of sarcasm.
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Yes it is. However, I found that with most people there is an element of truth to their sarcasm or else the thought would not have crossed their minds in the first place.

 
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yaright

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Crossfire said:


Yes it is. However, I found that with most people there is an element of truth to their sarcasm or else the thought would not have crossed their minds in the first place.

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A person felt justified in berating the Jews; That justification is a type of truth, according to the things which seem right to a person.

The irony is that to justify berating the Jews, Nazis began to looked like the good guys. Irony can be used in several ways, but like you mentioned, at least one of the two ends needs to be a truth. In this case, truth was in the eye of the beholder who berated the Jews. I fumble a bit with words, but I understood the sarcasm.

I am not defending; but to let you know I understood. I was giving the youngster a bit of room to learn.
 
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yaright

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cronjecj said:
Just to answer yaright's Q: Jesus came to fulfill God's 10 commandment law.

Love your God with all your heart, strength and mind = fulfills the first 4 commandments..

Love your neighbor as thyself = fulfills the last 6 commandments.. (and the prophets) including the laws of Moses.
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Because creation language is difficult to understand, it is difficult to see all the laws and words of the prophets Jesus did indeed fulfill. I am not in disagreement with you concerning the first two of the ten commandments. It is written that if we keep the first two, we have kept them all.

I have re-read this, and it seems a bit harsh, but I don't know how to say if better. I am sharing with you that there is much more. It's an amazing thing to be able to see what Jesus did with every breathe of His life concerning each and every one of us. What an amazing King!
 
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yaright

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ib4gzus said:
Good Point.
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To fall back is a term used in the military, police, and policing elements of religions; It means to back away from your enemy while facing the enemy. It is defensive posturing.
 
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jimmydiggs

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yaright said:
A person felt justified in berating the Jews; That justification is a type of truth, according to the things which seem right to a person.

The irony is that to justify berating the Jews, Nazis began to looked like the good guys. Irony can be used in several ways, but like you mentioned, at least one of the two ends needs to be a truth. In this case, truth was in the eye of the beholder who berated the Jews. I fumble a bit with words, but I understood the sarcasm.

I am not defending; but to let you know I understood. I was giving the youngster a bit of room to learn.
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Close but not quite. If you follow ada, and look at what he has posted in the past. It has a main them: Jews.

There was a thread (wish I remembered the title to link to it) where he was talking about Jewish Conspiracies and such.
 
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jimmydiggs

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Crossfire said:
And you guys wonder why people reject Calvinism....
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Every chance you get, huh. ;)


The rejection of any biblical (or non-biblical) belief isn't on the basis of any individual, but rather, the Holy Spirit. As it is the Holy Spirit that leads us to truth. If we do not believe the truth, the holy spirit did not lead us to it then. (atleast from what I understand on teh subject thus far)


So no, I don't question why a person rejects Calvinism.

That, and Calvinism really hurts human pride.


Also, I find it interesting that I just wrote an article review over anti-semitism in the OWS movement.


EDIT: To be fair, I'm glad you're taking potshots. Atleast I know whose hitlist I'm on.
 
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jimmydiggs

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The rejection of any biblical (or non-biblical) belief isn't on the basis of any individual, but rather, the Holy Spirit. As it is the Holy Spirit that leads us to truth. If we do not believe the truth, the holy spirit did not lead us to it then. (atleast from what I understand on teh subject thus far)
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I feel I should clarify this, so that you don't misunderstand what I am speaking of Crossfire.


Our coming to believe what is true, is because the HS leads us to it, we are drawn to it.

Our rejecting that belief, is when we follow ourselves.


If that makes sense.


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Adding this because I have a feeling this will be used as well.


What I am not saying, Crossfire, is that I believe you to be spiritually inferior to I, nor any one who believes the Doctrines of Grace to be biblical. Rather that it is the Holy Spirit that leads to truth. So if I, you, or anyone else holds something to be true in spiritual concerns that is not true, it is not because the HS lead us to lies. I imagine this is probably how you regard those that are Calvinists. Atleast, that is what I recall from previous interactions with you.

If Calvinism is right, then arminians were not lead to falsity by the HS. Equally the opposite, if Arminianism is right, then calvinists were not lead to falsity by the HS. To put it neutrally.
 
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Dude653

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Isnt there a story in the bible in which the Holy Spirit fell so heavily on the church that the preacher couldnt even preach???
 
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God will not override a person's free will. He will not cause you to be "slain in the spirit". If you are ever under the influence of a spirit to the extent you do not have control, it is not from God.

1 Cor 14;32)And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
 
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