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Que Sera, Sera, eh, jd?
Man is not responsible for his actions. Blame it all on God.
..right.
Man is not responsible for his actions. Blame it all on God.
..right.
God never wants us to lose control or free our mind. In God's presence nobody fell on their back in the Bible, only on face eventually but that too I believe it was to worship Him and it wasn't unconscious. "Slain in spirit" is certainly not Biblical, it's either demonic or just for show (fake).
PS: I've seen a documentary on National Geographic about pagans (some tribes) and their rituals, when a shaman was possessed he fall on back, was shaking or started "speaking in tongues". Food for thought, huh?
PS: I've seen a documentary on National Geographic about pagans (some tribes) and their rituals, when a shaman was possessed he fall on back, was shaking or started "speaking in tongues". Food for thought, huh?
C
I got you know... you were being cynical of Ada's post. The sarcasm was duly noted however, considering how all of you Amillennialists tend to stick together and some of the openly bad behahior that goes on here, I assumed that you were somehow confirming Ada's post instead of rejecting it.
You have my sincerest apologies.
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So what are the "greater works" Jesus spoke about in the verse below??......surely these "greater works" are not in the Bible yet Jesus stated that they will be done......
Joh 14:12 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
Joh 14:12 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
Matthew 21:21 (KJV)
Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
...you shall do greater works.
A
wish more people knew what removing a mountain......and the greater works really meant
a mountain is a place of power....no power has to keep us from obedience to His commands is the idea.
Greater works is the spread of the gospel...which Jesus never did..he came only to Israel...we take the
gospel to the entire world....the rest of the verse says its to glorify the Father in the Son
a mountain is a place of power....no power has to keep us from obedience to His commands is the idea.
Greater works is the spread of the gospel...which Jesus never did..he came only to Israel...we take the
gospel to the entire world....the rest of the verse says its to glorify the Father in the Son
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the fig tree was the cursed tree of corrupted oral tradition religion.
the mountain was the unbeliving portion of religious national israel that was about to persecute the apostles and disciples, putting many to death.
faith was the subject.
as in here:
Acts 14:22
strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to remain true to the faith. "We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God," they said.
Revelation 13:10
If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.
the mountain was the unbeliving portion of religious national israel that was about to persecute the apostles and disciples, putting many to death.
faith was the subject.
as in here:
Acts 14:22
strengthening the disciples and encouraging them to remain true to the faith. "We must go through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God," they said.
Revelation 13:10
If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.
A
Re: Is being slain in the Spirit Biblical?
sure here is an example
John 18:5-10
King James Version (KJV)
5They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
6As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.
7Then asked he them again, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.
8Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way:
9That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.
is it happening at Hinn's services and other charlatains who would like to set up their own worship to themselves instead of God or Jesus?
no not at all. that stuff is demonic.
as in this type of spirit...
Matthew 17
14And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying,
15Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.
16And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.
17Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.
18And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.
so if you would like to get yourself a demon go to your nearest "slain in the spirit" distrubrution center and for a small fee I'm sure they will oblige.
However I do believe people have been praying and been taken out of their body to speak with God but it is not something men can control but something God does as He wills.Most of the time it is called visions and dreams in the Bible. (whether this still occurs today people like to debate, but that is another topic) I also believe Satan would love to give people delusions and claim to be God and have them worship and obey him if they are not discerning.
Question: did Satan take Jesus physically to the top of the mountain and show Him all the kingdoms of the world or was that a spiritual journey?
Personally I like being concious and able to remember what happens to me and prefer God communicate with me while I am in my own body.
sure here is an example
John 18:5-10
King James Version (KJV)
5They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
6As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.
7Then asked he them again, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.
8Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way:
9That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.
is it happening at Hinn's services and other charlatains who would like to set up their own worship to themselves instead of God or Jesus?
no not at all. that stuff is demonic.
as in this type of spirit...
Matthew 17
14And when they were come to the multitude, there came to him a certain man, kneeling down to him, and saying,
15Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is lunatick, and sore vexed: for ofttimes he falleth into the fire, and oft into the water.
16And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.
17Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.
18And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.
so if you would like to get yourself a demon go to your nearest "slain in the spirit" distrubrution center and for a small fee I'm sure they will oblige.
However I do believe people have been praying and been taken out of their body to speak with God but it is not something men can control but something God does as He wills.Most of the time it is called visions and dreams in the Bible. (whether this still occurs today people like to debate, but that is another topic) I also believe Satan would love to give people delusions and claim to be God and have them worship and obey him if they are not discerning.
Question: did Satan take Jesus physically to the top of the mountain and show Him all the kingdoms of the world or was that a spiritual journey?
Personally I like being concious and able to remember what happens to me and prefer God communicate with me while I am in my own body.
Do you really understand what's behind being slain in the Spirit? Do you really know what you are talking about concerning this occurrence that many have come to identify with? You probably think it's all demonic and some side show that people get off on. That's what you think isn't it? Your love certainly thinks no evil. Do you even know what it means not to think evil of your brother? Do you even have a clue as to the love of God described in (1Cor 13)? Don't be so quick to judge your brother at the drop of a hat. If none of this is true about you then encourage yourself in the Lord.
Being slain in the Spirit is an emotional response in the central nervous system that wants to respond to God for things in their life they haven't been able to overcome or get victory over or some affliction they want desperately to be healed and free from. They go forward believing with all their heart and their emotions take over the central nervous system and they go right down. Are they evil people, NO! Are they expecting something supernatural, YES! At least give them that and if God chooses to give them grace and mercy, then we should be thankful and not judge them for being slain and believing God. It doesn't mean the devil had anything to do with it. Now you know. Are you going to be a Berean and check out what I said? Go learn it and at the same time love your brother.
Being slain in the Spirit is an emotional response in the central nervous system that wants to respond to God for things in their life they haven't been able to overcome or get victory over or some affliction they want desperately to be healed and free from. They go forward believing with all their heart and their emotions take over the central nervous system and they go right down. Are they evil people, NO! Are they expecting something supernatural, YES! At least give them that and if God chooses to give them grace and mercy, then we should be thankful and not judge them for being slain and believing God. It doesn't mean the devil had anything to do with it. Now you know. Are you going to be a Berean and check out what I said? Go learn it and at the same time love your brother.