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One of the amin tenemants of the Islamic faith is that God has no Son. Doesn't Scripture tell us all who deny the Son are antichrist?
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Keep grabbing at straws to cling to your doctrine if you prefer, just be careful that by doing so you aren't doing exactly as Christ warned against in Mark7:13. Be blesed loveme1 but I really don't see much point in continuing unless you can actually show which one of the 4 verses describing antichrists the Catholics are guilty of transgressing.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Keep grabbing at straws to cling to your doctrine if you prefer, just be careful that by doing so you aren't doing exactly as Christ warned against in Mark7:13. Be blesed loveme1 but I really don't see much point in continuing unless you can actually show which one of the 4 verses describing antichrists the Catholics are guilty of transgressing.
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Yes there many antichrists, Muslims, Atheists, etc and the list goes on and on.
If you had taken the time to read and understand what I posted you would realize that I was saying those who say Catholics are antichrists are relying on private interpretations of what an antichrist is instead of using the Scriptural definition of antichrists.
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
If you believe Catholics are antichrists maybe you could show us which of the only 4 verses quoted above that provide the Scriptural definition of antichrists the Catholics are guilty of transgressing.
You are correct Islam is not THE antichrist. THE antichrist is a spirit that inhabits all people who are antichrists. I never said Islam is THE Antichrist but I do say that Islam is a spiritual kingdom of antichrists
If you had taken the time to read and understand what I posted you would realize that I was saying those who say Catholics are antichrists are relying on private interpretations of what an antichrist is instead of using the Scriptural definition of antichrists.
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
If you believe Catholics are antichrists maybe you could show us which of the only 4 verses quoted above that provide the Scriptural definition of antichrists the Catholics are guilty of transgressing.
You are correct Islam is not THE antichrist. THE antichrist is a spirit that inhabits all people who are antichrists. I never said Islam is THE Antichrist but I do say that Islam is a spiritual kingdom of antichrists
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True but will they come to pass as many think they will? Many of the Jews who stood before Christ approximately 2000 years ago failed to recognize Him because they let their preconceived notions and traditional teachings about prophecy blind them. I fear many Christians in today’s world are making the same mistake. I fear many are so busy looking for what they think will happen that they fail to thoroughly examine the possibility prophecy has been unfolding right before our eyes over the last couple thousand years.
"The folly of interpreters has been to foretell times and things by this prophecy [Revelation], as if God designed to make them prophets. By this rashness they have not only exposed themselves, but brought the prophecy also into contempt. The design of God was much otherwise. He gave this and the prophecies of the Old Testament, not to gratify men's curiosities by enabling them to foreknow things, but that after they were fulfilled they might be interpreted by the event, and his own providence, not the interpreters', be then manifested thereby to the world. For the event of things predicted many ages before will then be a convincing argument that the world is governed by Providence." - Sir Isaac Newton
“Those things of God which are now dark and obscure will hereafter be made clear, and easy to be understood. Truth is the daughter of time. Scripture prophecies will be expounded by the accomplishment of them; therefore they are given, and for that expectation they are reserved. Therefore they are told us before, that, when they do come to pass, we may believe”. - Matthew Henry
And with you my friend. Be blessed and may God bless your studies!
"The folly of interpreters has been to foretell times and things by this prophecy [Revelation], as if God designed to make them prophets. By this rashness they have not only exposed themselves, but brought the prophecy also into contempt. The design of God was much otherwise. He gave this and the prophecies of the Old Testament, not to gratify men's curiosities by enabling them to foreknow things, but that after they were fulfilled they might be interpreted by the event, and his own providence, not the interpreters', be then manifested thereby to the world. For the event of things predicted many ages before will then be a convincing argument that the world is governed by Providence." - Sir Isaac Newton
“Those things of God which are now dark and obscure will hereafter be made clear, and easy to be understood. Truth is the daughter of time. Scripture prophecies will be expounded by the accomplishment of them; therefore they are given, and for that expectation they are reserved. Therefore they are told us before, that, when they do come to pass, we may believe”. - Matthew Henry
And with you my friend. Be blessed and may God bless your studies!
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yes they do. Judaism, budhism, peganism etc etc.
ok, now I understand. forgive me, if this is what you were doing then yes, I was in errorAnd your also correct in that Catholocism is not the antichrist. They do not fit the defenition as you showed.
and this I can agree with also. Islam as well as many other isms..lol
ok, now I understand. forgive me, if this is what you were doing then yes, I was in errorAnd your also correct in that Catholocism is not the antichrist. They do not fit the defenition as you showed.
and this I can agree with also. Islam as well as many other isms..lol
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I was watching a show on the TV about France and the government that did not get in, the extreme right wing, and a Christian said throw all Muslims out of the country if they don’t swear allegiance to the flag. I think it was meant to be a security thing, but I could see it was more about not enough for the French people, so throw all Muslims out. I know the Muslims they are antichrist but so is most of the world besides us Christians.
When Christians say Islam is the beast it encourages right wing politics
When Christians say Islam is the beast it encourages right wing politics
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But most of those other antichrists are not trying to force the rest of the world to submit to Islam and sharia law. Regardless of ones faith Islam is a threat to religous freedom. in the U.S. where I live religous freedom is a constitutional right a right that Islam seeks to take away from me. May I suggest you actually find out what is going on in France before condemning the French people for wanting to save their country from becoming an Islamic controlled country that would impose sharia law.
No it doesn't, but it should encourage all Christians to learn enough about Islam so that they can become effective witnesses to the antichrists who follow Muhammad
No it doesn't, but it should encourage all Christians to learn enough about Islam so that they can become effective witnesses to the antichrists who follow Muhammad
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You’re mixing up your faith in Christ with faith in the Weston world as being of God.
If that is not extreme right wing politics I don’t know what is.
This world is not are home
14For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
14For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
15And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
16But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
If that is not extreme right wing politics I don’t know what is.
This world is not are home
14For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
14For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
15And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
16But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
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Not at all while this country may have been founded on Christian principles sadly one would be hard pressed to say that is stiil the case.
LOL since when has standing against a false religion intent on forcing the world to submit to it been right wing politics. If you prefer being politically correct and defending the antichrist belief system known as Islam then by all means continue defending them as for me I believe as a Christian it is our duty to stand by the gospel of Christ, not Islam. I'll keep you in my prayers!!
LOL since when has standing against a false religion intent on forcing the world to submit to it been right wing politics. If you prefer being politically correct and defending the antichrist belief system known as Islam then by all means continue defending them as for me I believe as a Christian it is our duty to stand by the gospel of Christ, not Islam. I'll keep you in my prayers!!
Did you know that many Christians are classified as right wingers because they generally uphold religious values? Are you saying for a Christian to labeled as such is wrong when they are trying to help pass laws that keep an immoral world moral?
Lol, which side are you on brother? And I’m not asking that in a political sense.
In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
Lol, which side are you on brother? And I’m not asking that in a political sense.
In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
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When a right-wing government wants to throw out Foreigners and Muslims so they can continue their lifestyle to which they have become accustom too. That sounds so Christ like “NOT”.
Luke6:29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
Sharia law is not threating France, and yet if the extreme right-wing got in to government they would throw out Foreigners and Muslims out of the country.
And as for which side I’m on, I am on the Lords side, how about you.
Luke6:29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
Sharia law is not threating France, and yet if the extreme right-wing got in to government they would throw out Foreigners and Muslims out of the country.
And as for which side I’m on, I am on the Lords side, how about you.
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Sharia law is not threating Weston society, Sharia law would be lucky to infiltrate the rest of the countries they are in, never mind crossing over into a new border. The Weston world leaders do not fear Sharia law, it fears lunatics getting a hold of nuclear weapons and suicide bombers.
Were you get the west fearing Sharia law I don’t know, it maybe your fear, but it’s not the Weston governments fear, and apparently they are wiser than you.
Luke16:8And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
When a Weston government starts to do things that are not Christ like, like throw Foreigners out of their country so they can have more, then that government is becoming antichrist too.
So it beats me why you are defending them.
Were you get the west fearing Sharia law I don’t know, it maybe your fear, but it’s not the Weston governments fear, and apparently they are wiser than you.
Luke16:8And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.
When a Weston government starts to do things that are not Christ like, like throw Foreigners out of their country so they can have more, then that government is becoming antichrist too.
So it beats me why you are defending them.
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YES I have right-wing politics too
Keep the commandments. And one day rule them with a rod of iron, keep His precepts including what Jesus said, yes it sounds a bit right-wing to me. And that’s my right-wing politics.
But the right wing politics of this world is different to Gods.
1John2:15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Matt4:8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
Keep the commandments. And one day rule them with a rod of iron, keep His precepts including what Jesus said, yes it sounds a bit right-wing to me. And that’s my right-wing politics.
But the right wing politics of this world is different to Gods.
1John2:15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Matt4:8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
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I have a palestinian muslim next door to me. We talk all the time, he is very anti-jewish (they did alot to hurt his family when they lived outside jerusalem, so I can see why from a non biblical viewpoint.
I no more want to through him out of my country than I do jews, or catholics.
Your disrespecting a political party because of a few bad apples from some other country. That is wrong.
You yelling at people who yuou say hate, and call it a sin, hate, when you are doing the very thing your preaching against by hating a political group. and not just calling out a few bad apples in that group., there are bad apples in all groups. This is sorta hypocritical is it not
I no more want to through him out of my country than I do jews, or catholics.
Your disrespecting a political party because of a few bad apples from some other country. That is wrong.
You yelling at people who yuou say hate, and call it a sin, hate, when you are doing the very thing your preaching against by hating a political group. and not just calling out a few bad apples in that group., there are bad apples in all groups. This is sorta hypocritical is it not