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Heb 12:17ιστεG1492 V-RAM-2P - (you* are to had known) γαρG1063 CONJ - (for) οτιG3754 CONJ - (how that) καιG2532 CONJ - (also) μετεπειταG3347 ADV -(afterwards) θελωνG2309 V-PAP-NSM - (wishing) κληρονομησαιG2816 V-AAN - (to have inherited) τηνευλογιανG2129 N-ASF - (the blessing) απεδοκιμασθηG593 V-API-3S - (he was rejected) μετανοιαςG3341 N-GSF - (of repentance) γαρG1063 CONJ - (seeing that) τοπονG5117 N-ASM - (place) ουχG3756 PRT-N - (no (abs. neg.)) ευρενG2147 V-2AAI-3S - (he found) καιπερG2539 CONJ - (although) μεταG3326 PREP - (with) δακρυωνG1144 N-GPN - (tears) εκζητησαςG1567 V-AAP-NSM - (having sought out) αυτηνG846 P-ASF - (it)
Heb 12:17 For you* are to had known how that afterwards he, wishing to have also inherited the blessing, was rejected, seeing that he found no (abs. neg.) place of repentance, although having sought it our with tears.
Heb 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though tears.
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Powerful, how cee defined 12:17 ( and all cee's work is Spirited ) , Esau was to receive the birthright inheritance blessing for his being a child of God, this priviledge from being the oldest child, over his younger brother, Jacob, but Esau traded the birthright of family power and blessing for a bowl of soup.
Once this was done, it could not be undone, no matter what of repentance and shed tears by Esau.
Esaus did realize his mistake, and, his salvation was not threatened but his earthly life changed greatly , from abundance to hungry. This amazes me, how can we humans be so minded to choose a bowl of soup over soup for longtime in the future. He sold out. God does NOT want us to sell out, we MUST keep the FAITH in Him, that God will provide. Lost EVERYTHING did Esau over a bowl of soup that took Esau how long to slurp? 5 minutes ? I guess that would depend on how big the bowl. God's provision for us is bottomless bowled, so to speak, don't sell YOUR SOUL (give in to sex ONE 'bowl' night because you're struggling working, or, because you lost your job, because something bad happened to you) Don't !
Words: 12:17 - 'For ye know now afterward ' this is sooo what a parent will say to a child don't you think?
the lesson learned is not 'great' like poor child of God, Esau, who lost what was his of to come inherited riches of birthright, but, yeah I can so see a mom giving this kind of scourging, or, a dad...
You: Now you know honey, why I said not to put your hand on the burner.'
Your kid crying and talking at same time: 'But mommy , it wasn't hot last time I touched it. Wahhh , it hurts so much mommy.'
You: Honey, I know it hurts, but no more amount of crying is going to make it burn any less. There is nothing we can do but what we have already done, iced it, bandaged it, as the doctor said on webmd.com .'
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Quote: Heb 12:18ουG3756 PRT-N - (not (abs. neg.)) γαρG1063 CONJ - (seeing that) προσεληλυθατεG4334 V-2RAI-2P - (you* had come towards) ψηλαφωμενωG5584 V-PPP-DSN - (towards being manipulated = manipulated) ορειG3735 N-DSN - (a mountain) καιG2532 CONJ - (also) κεκαυμενωG2545 V-RPP-DSN - (having had been set ablazed (enveloped)) πυριG4442 N-DSN - (with[fire) καιG2532 CONJ - (and) γνοφωG1105 N-DSM - (gloom) καιG2532 CONJ - (and) σκοτωG4655 N-DSM -(darkness) καιG2532 CONJ - (and) θυελληG2366 N-DSF - (a whirlwind)]
Heb 12:18 Seeing that you* had not (abs. neg.) come towards a manipulated mountain having had also been set ablazed (enveloped) with fire, and gloom, and darkness, and a whirlwind.
Heb 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness
You don't want to go to this mountain of blackness, for Esau went, his world changed from that one little stupid, unbelieving unfaithful, immediate-pleasure seeking decision. As I said, I believe Esau still.went to Heaven, I do not see any signs of bitterness toward God shown by Esau but I would need to read this story again for certainty. But, for certain, like after Adam and Eve sinned and their eyes were opened to their sin, so were Esau''s eyes painfully opened to a bleakness and darkness and fire . God provides all things and, is just. Esau made his own choice, and, it was NOT selling his soul to The Devil but it was selling his soul for a cheap, cheap, price for future affluence of his life on Earth, as I see it..
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Heb 12:19καιG2532 CONJ - (and) σαλπιγγοςG4536 N-GSF - (of a trumpet) ηχωG2279 N-DSM - (a sound) καιG2532 CONJ - (and) φωνηG5456 N-DSF - (a voice) ρηματωνG4487 N-GPN - (of utterances)]ηςG3739 R-GSF - (fromwhich voice) οιακουσαντεςG191 V-AAP-NPM - (those having heard) παρητησαντοG3868 V-ADI-3P - (those begged (MD)) μηG3361 PRT-N - (not (qual. neg.)) προστεθηναιG4369 V-APN - (to have added (under the notion of annexed)) αυτοιςG846 P-DPM - (towards them) λογονG3056 N-ASM - (another word (subject of discourse))
Heb 12:19 And a sound of a trumpet and a voice of utterances. From which voice,those having heard, begged not to have another word (subject of discourse) added (under the notion of annexed) towards them.
Heb 12:19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more
The trumpet sound of joy will ring for no more graciously, for those, like esau,, who choose to say something is not important. God's voice of Love, reward, music , will depart from those who don't have faith that what God will be giving you is a great provision, like Isaac's blessing of abundant growth, food, wine that went to Jacob instead of the faithless Esau.
These two verses raise for much interpretation and questions . Genesis says, 'Jacob I loved, Esau I hated.'
Esau chose to completely de-value God''s silver platter of blessing for him, and, God says that when one steps their oen way, He can further entice that stepper to go off The cliff, as they already are hardened. Pharaoh is a great example of someone God raised up and made an example of as Pharoah's heart was hard against God before God 'hardened' his heart and Pharoah kept keeping God''s people (Israelites) against God''s will, so, God made MANY get elected to believe (choice was theirs) from the then sequence of horrible plagues God brought down on Pharoah.