Why do men/women....?

abair · Jul 20, 2012

I would look into the original hebrew or greek word that was used for the original meaning.

God rule us because he know better than us he create us

men did not create us do not know better just because they ----edited----are male.

if it is depend on who feed or care that will not becom relationship it is Swap you take care of me you rule me ??

LightningClap0002 · Jul 20, 2012

abair said:

I'm afraid that your anger and hostility towards men is not very loving. God commands what He commands because it is best. Do I know why? Absolutely not, but I do know that God created woman from man. I also know that God cursed woman a bit more harshly when He banned Adam and Eve from the garden.

That said, leaders also have much more responsibility. His wife becomes his responsibility as well. Not only his own walk with christ, but also his wifes, and his families. A true christian man recognizes this and seeks to honor God in all of his actions.

From Ephesians 5 - Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, that He might present to Himself the church [q]in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless. So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church,

JimJimmers · Jul 20, 2012

Abair, The Bible says the the man's body belongs to his wife. That's a pretty powerful statement on how much a woman matters to God, and how much she should matter to her husband.

Jullianna · Jul 21, 2012

Marriage is optional. If women do not wish to be submissive to a husband, they are not scripturally required to marry, but the scripture says what it says, no matter how politically incorrect some may find it. We can't toss scripture we don't like and keep what we like.

No, man did not create us. God did. But God created us FROM man FOR man and it was God who said that men should be the head of the family, not man.

Genesis 2: 18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”

Genesis 2:
But for Adam no suitable helper was found. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man. ”

24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

Jullianna · Jul 21, 2012

I want to add here that when a man becomes a husband he becomes responsible to God for how he treats and cares for the treasure God has given Him in a wife, just as we are accountable to God for the way we raise the children He entrusts to us.

abair · Jul 21, 2012

if a scripture says some race or gender is Superior we take it all or we should not believe in God ?

i did not believe that too
we are tha same creature we all asked to worship God at the same way we face the same ending after death
it just seem people think men are Superior

did we hear God say it ? Idid not no one ever prove that God saye it
it simply people belive
even if God say it thousand years men who wrote the bible who kept it
who could make sure that there is no chance that someone change or delete or put lines
no one
it just God be where every one treate equally

abair · Jul 21, 2012

that does not seem God words
God create us equally no race or gender Superior
who can say pray for you enemy then say human who are men is rule over
it does not seem the same one say it both

LightningClap0002 · Jul 21, 2012

abair said:

Abair, what has led you to believe that God created us equally?

zeroturbulence · Jul 21, 2012

abair said:

God didn't put man in charge of woman because man knows better. Man does not know better than woman. God put man in charge because man is strong enough to PROTECT and PROVIDE for woman and family. Yes, women can also provide for themselves but God designed man to be strong, brave and tireless so he can provide and protect his wife and his family. The man is supposed to build the house, hunt for food, chase off thieves or wild animals. The man is physically more able to protect and provide so he is the one God put in charge of his family including his wife. God did not say that man can abuse or mistreat his wife or family. That is a lie and not in the bible.

Jullianna · Jul 21, 2012

abair, I posted the scripture for you, as have others. I posted the scripture reference so you don't have to take my word for it. You can look it up in your Bible.

We have explained the scriptures to you several times. It appears that you understand the scriptures, you simply don't like what they say. Are you saying that the Bible is not the Word of God?

No one can force you to believe the Word of God. You either do or you don't. I'm not going to argue opinions or political correctness, as this is not a feminist forum. It's a christian forum, where we answer such question with scripture rather than our own opinions.

If you have scripture you'd like to post to support your claims, we can certainly discuss those.

My concern is more why you are so very angry with men? What has happened? We would like to pray with you.

Jullianna · Jul 21, 2012

Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to advice.
Proverbs 16:25 There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.

We are not to follow God in a way that SEEMS right to us, but according to His Word. Since the scriptures warn us about this at least three times, it must be very important.

Jullianna · Jul 21, 2012

abair, I've been thinking and praying about this for awhile and I'm wondering if you are misunderstanding something. We are not saying that men are BETTER than women. I can see how it might seem that way. We are only saying that there is an order that God has established to help us understand heavenly things.

Can I give an example? Have you ever watched a pack of wolves? They are all wolves. None are better than the others. But there is a leadership order that works. One is stronger than the others. One has better leadership capabilities than the others. But none are better than the others. Not to say that people are animals or anything.

Remember the scripture we posted above about men cherishing their wives as Christ cherishes the Church? Think about this for a moment..we women are normally very loving and nuturing. Most of us are willing to do anything for love and wouldn't let pride stand in our way.

I don't mean to generalize, but it doesn't seem that loving in a submissive way, completely surrendering your will to someone else, comes easy for men. What do you think? Do you think it's possible that God set things up this way so that women could be an example to men of how the Lord wants us to love and completely yield our will to Him? Both women AND men?

Does this help at all?

It seems that you have been so hurt. My heart really goes out to you. Can you tell us more about that?

MrHonest · Jul 22, 2012

I was wondering where & how & why scripture says for woman to be submissive. Maybe that will help.. I'd try to look for it but I think one of you guys or gals already has this bookmarked.

Jullianna · Jul 22, 2012

MrHonest said:

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband

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This passage makes it clear that the reason is that the relationship between man and wife is a model of how the relationship between the Lord and mankind is supposed to be. That's what I was trying to explain above.

It's not to demean or belittle anyone. As a christian, I don't feel that the Lord demeans or belittles me. He cherishes me. He cares/protects/loves/encourages/does all for me.

zeroturbulence · Jul 22, 2012

You know whats interesting is that physically, unless a woman is into bodybuilding, women naturally have significantly less muscle mass than men, and also women have 20% better hearing and sense of smell than men. I believe that those last two traits were given to woman by God to make her a better protector of her children while she is in her home. She will be able to sense danger that is far off well before a man could sense it so that she will have time to gather the children and lock up the house while the man is out hunting or working in the field.

Ever notice how women also seem to have an eye in the back of their head? They can sense when someone is watching them. This I believe is also a trait given to them by God so they can once again sense danger so that they can gather and protect their children.

Men also have certain traits. They have more muscle mass and are able to build muscle easier. This makes them better hunters and gatherers of food as well as defenders and warriors. It also makes them better at construction, digging wells, working the land, etc... And God gave men the ability to silence their minds (no thoughts) and to focus all their energy on one thing without distraction. These two traits make him a formidable hunter and warrior. Silencing the mind gives him ability to stalk his prey for long periods without getting frustrated and also the ability to react quickly to an attack.

My point is that God made men and women different in ways that seem to support the roles that God has given them. The man is to be the natural leader of his household because without his strength and ability to hunt the family would be largely unprotected and have little or no food to eat (animals must be hunted and the land must be worked for good crops). God gave women strength to do the work around the home and to raise her children, but He made her physically more fragile than men so that they would depend on their man to provide and protect the family. Did you know that women's bones are not as dense as men's? Its true. They are delicate creatures. Beautiful and delicate so that a man will cherish her more than life itself.

simplyme_bekah · Jul 22, 2012

zeroturbulence said:

You know whats interesting is that physically, unless a woman is into bodybuilding, women naturally have significantly less muscle mass than men, and also women have 20% better hearing and sense of smell than men. I believe that those last two traits were given to woman by God to make her a better protector of her children while she is in her home. She will be able to sense danger that is far off well before a man could sense it so that she will have time to gather the children and lock up the house while the man is out hunting or working in the field.

Ever notice how women also seem to have an eye in the back of their head? They can sense when someone is watching them. This I believe is also a trait given to them by God so they can once again sense danger so that they can gather and protect their children.

Men also have certain traits. They have more muscle mass and are able to build muscle easier. This makes them better hunters and gatherers of food as well as defenders and warriors. It also makes them better at construction, digging wells, working the land, etc... And God gave men the ability to silence their minds (no thoughts) and to focus all their energy on one thing without distraction. These two traits make him a formidable hunter and warrior. Silencing the mind gives him ability to stalk his prey for long periods without getting frustrated and also the ability to react quickly to an attack.

My point is that God made men and women different in ways that seem to support the roles that God has given them. The man is to be the natural leader of his household because without his strength and ability to hunt the family would be largely unprotected and have little or no food to eat (fruits and veggies must be harvested in season and they do not last long before they spoil). God gave women strength to do the work around the home and to raise her children, but He made her physically more fragile than men so that they would depend on their man to provide and protect the family. Did you know that women's bones are not as dense as men's? Its true. They are delicate creatures. Beautiful and delicate so that a man will cherish her more than life itself!

that was beautiful and the way you see women is beautiful. thanks for writing that i enjoyed reading it

abair · Jul 22, 2012

I do not need scripture to tell me that

zeroturbulence · Jul 22, 2012

simplyme_bekah said:

Wow thank you, Bekah!

violakat · Jul 22, 2012

LightningClap0002 said:

Lightning, I believe that we are created equally. Equally, but different. Equal, in that God love's us all the same, and that Jesus died that all might be saved. But we are different, in that each person has different roles.

LightningClap0002 · Jul 22, 2012

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