How much does your personal experiences affect your faith?
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Yup ... brain fart, I meant "evangelical" -- thank you for correcting me.
I think some who embrace the Evangelical movement do so honestly. They recognize that Fundamentalism is lacking and for whatever reason distrust orthodoxy (it's not uncommon to reject authority), so Evangelicalism (I don't know, "Evangelism" still sounds right to me) is one solution.
It's just not my preference.
I think some who embrace the Evangelical movement do so honestly. They recognize that Fundamentalism is lacking and for whatever reason distrust orthodoxy (it's not uncommon to reject authority), so Evangelicalism (I don't know, "Evangelism" still sounds right to me) is one solution.
It's just not my preference.
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'God's personal experience for us' is how you should put it, tribers. For me, I won't sleak for you, but, yes, unequivocally, and, obvious, by your choux s for us that you are TOTALLY going in the wrong direction, thinking our personal choices do not matter for OUR FAITH TO GROW . God tells us, through His teaching on earth, manifested as 'His Son,' that 'IF we have the faith of a mustard seed, we can move a mountain. ' This is a direct hypothesis answer to a proposition. If you do this, this will happen, Jesus says.
My choice of vote, incidentally, is not even up there: completely .
My choice of vote, incidentally, is not even up there: completely .
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I left all traditional churches. they all have issues. even my church is not perfect. but it more resembles the origional churches of the NT than any church I have been too. and I have learned and grown more at this church over the last 5 than i did in 30 some years of the traditional church.
I don;t trust orthodoxy because of their works based gospel is no different than Catholicism, as for as evangelical vs fundamentalism. I am not sure there is really a difference.
I wonder just how many of us would admit to having experienced much grace in our life because we have sinned much. How many would say that they love much because they have been forgiven much in their experience. Has any of this kind of personal experience from a loving and just God through His Son effected your faith? To experience being cleansed and forgiven of all sin by the love of God through grace, is there any greater experience that we can receive from God for our faith than that? To forgive a guilty person who has sinned against you before they recognize what they have done, does that experience add to your faith? To take the blame for the guilt of another as Christ did for all of us, does that give you some kind of understanding in your faith of just how good God is to sinful man? To know that we have been called by God and have been given an abundance of mercy through the blood of Christ and have been justified once and for all and made complete by that blood and never having to be justified again, does that give you an experience of fellowship with the living God and with one another that can never be taken from you? Does the Holy Spirit call us unto the deep things of God...
1Cor 2:9,10
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Cor 2:9,10
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
T
Interesting. No "church" is going to be perfect, this side of paradise, because they're filled with people, who are imperfect. We can try to follow Christ, but we always miss the mark, and for that reason, no church on earth is ever going to get it quite right, 100% "complete." We are incomplete without Jesus.
I'd be interested in hearing how you define "traditional church," and what issues they had.
I attended a church for a while that was, I think, the closest any church could come to 1st century Christians. About half of the members -- roughly 10 people -- lived together in a large home, which they purchased together as an intentional community. They pooled their resources to support what was their living quarters, ministry center, worship center, etc. Worship was in the living room: the rest of us joined for worship. And then those of us who were members stuck around for other stuff -- Bible study, ministry to others, etc. We took on specific causes as we saw need and were able. Peace was one of the biggest ministries, but there were lots of others. Members held each other accountable. Membership was quite limited. Unlike a lot of churches, where you just show up for a while and say "I wanna be a member" and then you're a member. You had to make a commitment, and breaking that commitment was tough. When I left the community to move to another area, it was hard -- they let me leave, because they saw that God was calling me to a different ministry, but no other church will ever be quite like that.
I'd be interested in hearing how you define "traditional church," and what issues they had.
I attended a church for a while that was, I think, the closest any church could come to 1st century Christians. About half of the members -- roughly 10 people -- lived together in a large home, which they purchased together as an intentional community. They pooled their resources to support what was their living quarters, ministry center, worship center, etc. Worship was in the living room: the rest of us joined for worship. And then those of us who were members stuck around for other stuff -- Bible study, ministry to others, etc. We took on specific causes as we saw need and were able. Peace was one of the biggest ministries, but there were lots of others. Members held each other accountable. Membership was quite limited. Unlike a lot of churches, where you just show up for a while and say "I wanna be a member" and then you're a member. You had to make a commitment, and breaking that commitment was tough. When I left the community to move to another area, it was hard -- they let me leave, because they saw that God was calling me to a different ministry, but no other church will ever be quite like that.
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exactly Job gives a multitude of experiences both great and horrible and his faith was stable
through it all. Some sawn in half...etc
In our day people think of personal experiences as something to parade and bragg
about....and
they refer to it as a testimony...yet testimony is to be about the Lord not ourselves....its a kind
of false testimony based on emotional hype and imagination sometimes to copy what they see
others doing.
through it all. Some sawn in half...etc
In our day people think of personal experiences as something to parade and bragg
about....and
they refer to it as a testimony...yet testimony is to be about the Lord not ourselves....its a kind
of false testimony based on emotional hype and imagination sometimes to copy what they see
others doing.
