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oh so your bible. let me guess. God gave you your own personal bible like he gave the mormons and JW's??
you just lost it. I won;t laugh or make fun of you. I feel sorry for you.
Where is America in Bible Prophecy?
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oh so your bible. let me guess. God gave you your own personal bible like he gave the mormons and JW's??
you just lost it. I won;t laugh or make fun of you. I feel sorry for you.
It was a large white bible on a book shelf at a friends during operation shock and awe and no amount of googling has found the passages I read. Not the way I read them. God put it on my heart to read the bible, my friend claimed he didnt have one, God persisted, I said id love too but youll have to show me, suddenly a loud thump in the other room, I smile knowing God is guiding me, large white bible, pray God shows me whats relevant let book fall on its spine and there I read it. Northern enemy, facing to the east attack from behind over the largest body of water.. Sorry folks only the pacific ocean fits that bill. Never found it since.
I trust God. Not you.
I trust God. Not you.
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So you are quoting a mystery scripture form the Holy Bible that God revealed to only you?
Ok Deadtosin, I will humor you, but I do want to make sure I am understanding you correctly...
Are you saying this particular scripture is in reference to the prophecies in Revelation?
I know that sounds like a dumb question, but I need a direct answer.
Are you saying this particular scripture is in reference to the prophecies in Revelation?
I know that sounds like a dumb question, but I need a direct answer.
But oyu have implied that America is part of prophecy, and Babylon(which is in Revelation) is America.
So....
Here is what the bible says about your mystery bible verse....
Revelation 22:18-19
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
Deuteronomy 4:2
You shall not add to the word that I command you...
Proverbs 30:5-6
Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.
These 3 verses actually show that what you are saying is in violation of the scriptures.
While I have no reason to think you are lying there is also this scripture.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Mattew 7:22-23
You can't see the distinction between apostate Israel and true Israel, between Natural Israel and Spiritual Israel. Until you can recognize that, I guess you won't understand what I'm saying.
Yes Israel played the harlot which means she was the main character. She wasn't played by the harlot, she was the harlot. she prostituted herself to other nations, and actually paid these other nations to have sex with her (figuratively speaking) instead of other nations paying her for sex in which is the way the real world works. The prostitute never pays the man for to have sex, the man pays her.
Jerusalem’s Harlotry
15 “But you trusted in your own beauty, played the harlot because of your fame, and poured out your harlotry on everyone passing by who would have it. 16 You (Jerusalem) took some of your garments and adorned multicolored high places for yourself, and played the harlot on them. Such things should not happen, nor be. 17 You (Jerusalem) have also taken your beautiful jewelry from My gold and My silver, which I (God) had given you (Jerusalem), and made for yourself male images and played the harlot with them. 18 You (Jerusalem) took your embroidered garments and covered them, and you set My oil and My incense before them. 19 Also My food which I (God) gave you (Jerusalem)—the pastry of fine flour, oil, and honey which I fed you—you set it before them as sweet incense; and so it was,” says the Lord God.
20 “Moreover you took your sons and your daughters, whom you bore to Me, and these you sacrificed to them to be devoured. Were your acts of harlotry a small matter, 21 that you have slain My children and offered them up to them by causing them to pass through the fire? 22 And in all your abominations and acts of harlotry you did not remember the days of your youth, when you were naked and bare, struggling in your blood.
23 “Then it was so, after all your wickedness—‘Woe, woe to you!’ says the Lord God— 24 that you also built for yourself a shrine, and made a high place for yourself in every street. 25 You built your high places at the head of every road, and made your beauty to be abhorred. You offered yourself to everyone who passed by, and multiplied your acts of harlotry. 26 You also committed harlotry with the Egyptians, your very fleshly neighbors, and increased your acts of harlotry to provoke Me to anger.
27 “Behold, therefore, I stretched out My hand against you, diminished your allotment, and gave you up to the will of those who hate you, the daughters of the Philistines, who were ashamed of your lewd behavior. 28 You also played the harlot with the Assyrians, because you were insatiable; indeed you played the harlot with them and still were not satisfied. 29 Moreover you multiplied your acts of harlotry as far as the land of the trader, Chaldea; and even then you were not satisfied.
30 “How degenerate is your heart!” says the Lord God, “seeing you do all these things, the deeds of a brazen harlot.
Jerusalem’s Adultery
31 “You erected your shrine at the head of every road, and built your high place in every street. Yet you were not like a harlot, because you scorned payment. 32 You are an adulterous wife, who takes strangers instead of her husband. 33Men make payment to all harlots, but you made your payments to all your lovers, and hired them to come to you from all around for your harlotry. 34 You are the opposite of other women in your harlotry, because no one solicited you to be a harlot. In that you gave payment but no payment was given you, therefore you are the opposite.”
What more of a great harlot can you have? the nation that God had married, given HIS light to, HIS word, His Blessings too, She was the vineyard that was to put forth good grapes, but wild grape she bore, But Israel rejected all this and chased after the wind, prostituted herself with other pagan nations and paid them to have sex with her. What other nation/city is depicted this way in the scriptures?
I haven't added anything to the Word of God. Saying I believe America is the Babylon Revelations talks about isn't adding to the word, it's decyphering it. No different than someone suggesting who the antichrist is or any other aspect of the bible. As far as adding to the Word regarding America being destroyed, different bibles say different things, The closest I've found to what I read is in Joel, talking about removing the army of the north and something about the east and west, also referring to the end times. My king james which I dote upon does'nt say what I read that day. So I have a hard decision to make. Believe the King James in reference to that (though many people claim the OT part of the KJV is the worst translation, and of course it has nothing to do with the received texts) or believe what God showed me that day. Here is the problem I have with the idea it was Satan disguised as God that day. First, it was at a point in my life when I was very close to God, hiding around corners to quickly tell God how much I loved Him and such. Then to have in my heart "read the bible" and talking to God and having Him continue to guide me all the way to the Word of God. I can never believe that was Satan. That would violate my relationship with God. God would never allow Satan to pretend to be Him while I was praying and loving God. I don't buy that.
We see in the direct quote from Revelation below that the Great Whore is upon many waters (peoples and nations), and on seven mountains or hills. She is also the mother of harlots. In the Word, harlotry is akin to apostasy. For those who are not clear on what apostasy is, in a nutshell it is when any assembly of the true God change His Word to their own convenience purporting it to be from Him.............false religions that began with the truth.
Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
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I understand quite well. And i recommend once again you stop telling people what they do and don;t see or understand, you come across as cocky and arrogant.
Gods intended purpose was for natural Isreal to BE spiritual Isreal along with all the gentiles who were saved in the OT, and there were many of them.
1. When a man cheats on his wife with a harlot. he plays the harlot. Isreal was supposed to be the bride. She played the harlot with the harlot. The one who cheats is not the main character or harlot. The one they cheat with is the harlot or the main character. This goes in the natural world as well as the spiritual. A man or wife who commits adultry is not the harlot. The one they cheat with is the harlot.
2. Isreal did not go to other nations and pay them to have sex with her God, they went to have sex with these other nations Gods. And then paid so others could follow in her sin so she was not alone in her sin. It was the religious idolotry of these nations which was the harlot. not Isreal. you have it backwards.
Again, You commit adultry by SLEEPING WITH THE HARLOT. Not the other way around.
You have failed to prove your point. No one slept with Isreals God. Isreal slept with their Gods. starting with Egypt and the golden calf. And continuing until they were removed out of the northern kingdom and eventually the southern kingdom. The did it the whole time they were in babylonian captivity, and were only returned as a promise to daniel. Yet they STILL played the harlot with foreign Gods. and tried to get other people to play it with her so she was not alone in her sin (which is what you just showed)
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Sorry if I sound arrogant, it's not my intention. Forgive. However, you explanations to me are confusing as mine are to you.
Let me ask you a question, Who is the one who has the marriage covenant with God?
Must be Canada then...
Is he the one producing all those block buster films up there?
Seriously, when the evil one is incarnate, all who know the Lord, Yeshua, Jesus, will know who he is by the nature given each by our Savior.
They are ten specific nations. The smaller horn is the anti-Christ.
May I suggest, and recommend from my own experience, that you check out Prophecy Today with Dr. Jimmy DeYoung. He's a great teacher, who's interesting to listen to, and very relevant. He takes news items from around the world and the Middle-East, and applies prophecy to show how things are unfolding in our daily lives. It's really informative. http://prophecytoday.com/html/ptrn.php My favorite is the Prophecy Today Weekly section. It's a weekly update that he does for radio on Saturdays and you can click on the podcast for this week or go back through their archives and listen to it whenever you have time. Check it out!
Something to consider is that the U.S. might not be spoken of in prophecy because it's been eliminated and isn't a player in the grand scheme of things, or even as a secondary player associated with another more relevant country. We've got some serious economic issues that could destroy us (QE3, a second credit downgrade, etc), or terrorism/war that could happen within our own borders (terrorist sleeper cells, wide open borders, etc) or just a smiple electro-magnetic pulse could take us back to the stone ages, relatively speaking. We have a president who's been asleep at the switch in regards to warnings about Middle-East uprisings, and missed numerous personal security breifings and people have died. We've got the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House, along with Marxists and Communists who are allowed access to delicate security info. It's becoming such a large list of problems in numerous areas, that it's rediculous. It's not that difficult to see how the U.S. could be out of the picture.
On a side note, I want to help some friends of mine in Egypt who are Coptic Christians so they can get out of their country, but coming here will only be a temporary fix. However, compared to Egypt, I'd take the U.S. in a heartbeat, and so would they. The difference is this: the Scriptures, Isaiah 19 for example, actually speak of the calamity that is befalling Egypt.
Come Lord Jesus!