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Are you a sinner? If so, then what seperates you from those you believe don't make the cut?
Again verses is nice to quote, but no verse is subjected to neither my interpretation nor yours. Please do not lean on your own understanding.
If it is a good thing to save some who don't deserve to be saved, will it not be more glorious to save all who again, DON'T DESERVE IT?
I have not stated anything vehemently, this would be your doing. All I have done is repeated the teaching of the Word of Yahweh with understanding, just for you.
You have not read the Word, not all of it that is. Apparently you have not read much of it at all. Please do not comment on that which you have not learned. It demonstrates what you do not know.
As for being a hypocrite, our Master has been called much worse. I praise Yeshua, Jesus, that He has allowed this minor slur for His glory, amen.
You have not read the Word, not all of it that is. Apparently you have not read much of it at all. Please do not comment on that which you have not learned. It demonstrates what you do not know.
As for being a hypocrite, our Master has been called much worse. I praise Yeshua, Jesus, that He has allowed this minor slur for His glory, amen.
Did Jesus come to save or to destroy? He was hanged on a tree saying Father FORGIVE THEM!! If it seems that I boast, it is truly in the Lord.
Now again I ask are you a sinner??? If so will you not collect your wages? Again who here can escape death as a wage collected by us all?
The wise dies along with the fool. Why?
At this point you are labeling our Lord and Master either a liar or a madman, neither of which is acceptable in this forum.
Why does He make reference to the outer darkness on occasions? Why does He include in one of His parables a wedding guest who did not bother to have a wedding garment (works) and was thrown into the outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth? And there is more on the subject.
The Master, Yeshua, is neither mad nor a liar. If you do not mind, I am going to do my best to not reply to more of your nonsensical declarations; they are blasphemy.
You do not answer because in the same way the pharisees would not. It exposes a deceitful heart.
But you are correct in you nor any man not setting any standard for who is saved.
Now I ask you one more question that you will refuse to answer just to hold on to what you THINK is right, having a form of godliness.
Do you see it as a good thing for God to save all He made into existence?
But you are correct in you nor any man not setting any standard for who is saved.
Now I ask you one more question that you will refuse to answer just to hold on to what you THINK is right, having a form of godliness.
Do you see it as a good thing for God to save all He made into existence?
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We cannot earn eternal life...
It is critical to understand that we cannot save ourselves. The foundation of our faith is Jesus death and ressurection. Thats what paid the penalty for our sins. As a result of God's work in Jesus, we are a new people with a new heart and a new Lord.
1. Is it possible to be saved by the good things we do--our "works"? How are we saved? read (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Ephesians 2:8-9 "8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast."
2. Does God save us because of the good things we do? If not why does he save us? Titus 3:4-5
Titus 3:4-5 "4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit"
3. What does God's grace teach the believers? Titus 2:11,12
Titus 2:11-12 "11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age"
4.Shall we continue to sin because of God's forgiveness and grace? Romans 6:15
Romans 6:15 "15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!"
5. What are we created for as a new Christian? Ephesians 2:10
Ephesians 2:10 "10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do"
As we have learned in this topic, we are spiritually dead and cannot save ourselves. Regardless of who we are, we need a Savior. Jesus Christ is the only true Savior. By receiving Jesus as Savior and Lord, we can be delivered from the power of sin and its consequences. Our salvation is based on what Jesus did for us, not on our own efforts.
We must therefore....
REALIZE that we are sinners without excuse (Romans 1:20) and that it is only thru the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ that we can be saved.
RESPOND by turning from sin and putting our faith in him and then following Him as Lord.
It is critical to understand that we cannot save ourselves. The foundation of our faith is Jesus death and ressurection. Thats what paid the penalty for our sins. As a result of God's work in Jesus, we are a new people with a new heart and a new Lord.
1. Is it possible to be saved by the good things we do--our "works"? How are we saved? read (Ephesians 2:8-9)
Ephesians 2:8-9 "8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast."
2. Does God save us because of the good things we do? If not why does he save us? Titus 3:4-5
Titus 3:4-5 "4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit"
3. What does God's grace teach the believers? Titus 2:11,12
Titus 2:11-12 "11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age"
4.Shall we continue to sin because of God's forgiveness and grace? Romans 6:15
Romans 6:15 "15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!"
5. What are we created for as a new Christian? Ephesians 2:10
Ephesians 2:10 "10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do"
As we have learned in this topic, we are spiritually dead and cannot save ourselves. Regardless of who we are, we need a Savior. Jesus Christ is the only true Savior. By receiving Jesus as Savior and Lord, we can be delivered from the power of sin and its consequences. Our salvation is based on what Jesus did for us, not on our own efforts.
We must therefore....
REALIZE that we are sinners without excuse (Romans 1:20) and that it is only thru the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ that we can be saved.
RESPOND by turning from sin and putting our faith in him and then following Him as Lord.
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John 3
That is what i believe.
I do not answer because it is not my place to answer, Yahvah God will do as he wishes.
What most forget is that it is the creation that is in the wrong not the Creator.
While our Creator desires all men to be saved not all men seek the Truth that will Save them.
and the reason for this is in the verse above.
Not your place to answer? Are you a child of the flesh or do you have the mind of Christ? You say that GOD DOES WHAT HE PLEASES and rightfully so. Were not all of us created FOR HIS PLEASURE?
I never said that all are seeking Him. But I ask you is He not found by those who sought HIM NOT?
Romans 10:18-21
18*But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
19*But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
20*But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
21*But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
Romans 10
10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above
7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.
21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.
I pray i'm Faithful and counted worthy to be a child of Yahvah God.
I don't think it works like that. I believe your human before and after you accept Christ. But Christs work was for the foregiveness of all sin, past, present and future for those who believe.
So if you accept then all your sins past, present and future are forgiven. To think that somehow we stop sinning after we accept Christ is stupid. You have 55,000 thoughts a day, chances are each day you do multiple sins without even realizing it. But they're all covered by the blood.
Remember.... "all of your righteousness is as filthy rags.."
As for the OP message....
here's what I think as far as salvation goes:
"Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. " Romans 10:9
So if you accept then all your sins past, present and future are forgiven. To think that somehow we stop sinning after we accept Christ is stupid. You have 55,000 thoughts a day, chances are each day you do multiple sins without even realizing it. But they're all covered by the blood.
Remember.... "all of your righteousness is as filthy rags.."
As for the OP message....
here's what I think as far as salvation goes:
"Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. " Romans 10:9
Lol. Is not the will of the Father to save all and come to a knowledge of the truth? However you understand what is written, will His desire or will be fulfilled? I hope so if we consider Him to be as all powerful as the bible describes Him!
And if I speak as one who is above your authority, it is only because my authority comes from above!
He gave me the power to forgive. And I do GREAT works with it!
2 Corinthians 10:4-8
4*(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5*Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6*And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
7*Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.
8*For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:
4*(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5*Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6*And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
7*Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? if any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.
8*For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed: