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You do not understand scripture. The above in no way suggests that God tells us we MUST keep His laws perfectly.
What is being said is that to kill will bring on the same punishment as to covet. To covet will bring on the same punishment as to lie. To lie will bring on the same punishment as to worship idols. Now we could go on and on and on and list ALL of the laws that God gave.....but why do that? Instead the writer just wrote the following;
If you break one law it is just as though you have broken ANY of the rest of God's laws. Or......as He said;
"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
We are even given an example in the next sentence. Let's read it.....
"For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law."
If we do not commit adultery BUT we kill we are yet sinners!!
In other words....as far as God is concerned a sin is a sin no matter what the sin is. There are no big or small sins.
If we break one law it is as though we have broken ANY of the other, or ALL of them. NOT that we have actually broken ALL of them.
Again....how could anyone get that the above scriptures means that God says we MUST keep all of His laws perfectly is beyond me!
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E
Amazing! You know the above but you cannot see it here in Rev.?
Rev.22
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
[15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
The LAST chapter of the LAST book of the bible tells us the same thing.
Keep God's laws and you will be blessed.
Do NOT keep God's laws and you will be punished.
It's the SAME THING!
Jesus told us this SAME THING is needed for eternal life!
Paul tells us this SAME THING when he tells us the following.....
Rom.7
[10] And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Now what "Life" do you think God's laws give if kept? Life ETERNAL!
Keeping the Commandments ARE needed for eternal life!
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E
God had a law that blood must shed in order for sins to be forgiven. God set up laws that allowed the blood of bulls and goats to forgive sins for just a short while. This law required "work" and "deeds" to be done, which was the killing of animals. This law was added to His already existing laws. This law was only to be around for awhile.
The law of killing blood of bulls and goats could NEVER make us perfect. No one was justified, or cleared of sin by the "works" and "deeds" of this law. But God allowed it until His Son shed His blood.
After Jesus blood was shed....there was no longer a need for the laws of the killing of bulls and goats.
But now that the law of killing animals is done away with...do we make void of God's OTHER laws?
Do we make void, do not kill, covet, lie, steal, fornicate and the rest of the laws that were NOT nailed to His cross as the laws of the killing of animals were nailed?
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The law of killing blood of bulls and goats could NEVER make us perfect. No one was justified, or cleared of sin by the "works" and "deeds" of this law. But God allowed it until His Son shed His blood.
After Jesus blood was shed....there was no longer a need for the laws of the killing of bulls and goats.
But now that the law of killing animals is done away with...do we make void of God's OTHER laws?
Do we make void, do not kill, covet, lie, steal, fornicate and the rest of the laws that were NOT nailed to His cross as the laws of the killing of animals were nailed?
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D
“Enter by the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life and there are few who find it. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, I never knew you, depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.”
Matthew 7:13-23
“Do not think that I came to destroy (or do away with) the law (written Word of God) or the Prophets (spoken Word of God), but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”
(Matthew 5:17-18)
In summation, we do not work in the flesh to please God in the spirit. It is impossible. But if we are led by the Spirit of God (receiving the implanted word), we please God as we are led of the Spirit and are blessed in what we do. Works follow salvation. They do not lead to salvation. If we do not choose to “crucify the flesh in its passions and desires,” we live in the flesh (doing the works of darkness) and cannot understand the things of the Spirit. As we deny the deeds of destruction, the fruits of the Spirit become more evident in our lives and, by the Spirit we begin to understand the deep things of God.
“But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”
1 Corinthians 2:14
“For to everyone who has, more will be given, and he will have abundance, but from him who does not have, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the unprofitable servant in the outer darkness. There will be weeping and nashing of teeth.”
Matthew 25:29-30
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You are clearly contradicting yourself. Above you state that we "must do" and "keep" the commandments to enter into His kingdom. But note what you say in your quotes below. You say the opposite!
You are contradicting yourself in an effort to try to justify that somehow the law (including the 10 commandments) is necessary for salvation.
You say we "must do" and "are to keep" the 10 commandments, etc. To fail to do so results in not "allowed the right to the tree of life" But you fail to explain what level of obedience determines this nor are you able to give any scripture to support this doctrine.
The gospel you offer is error.
It consistently fails to answer it's many contradictions.
Christians have not been set free from sin according to your gospel. They can and are still charged with sin, regardless of Christ's one offering.
But God says:
Rom 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
You are contradicting yourself in an effort to try to justify that somehow the law (including the 10 commandments) is necessary for salvation.
You say we "must do" and "are to keep" the 10 commandments, etc. To fail to do so results in not "allowed the right to the tree of life" But you fail to explain what level of obedience determines this nor are you able to give any scripture to support this doctrine.
The gospel you offer is error.
It consistently fails to answer it's many contradictions.
Christians have not been set free from sin according to your gospel. They can and are still charged with sin, regardless of Christ's one offering.
But God says:
Rom 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
D
One small addition to what I posted previously 
Definitions of “works of the flesh”:
adultery
voluntary sexual [relations] between a married person and someone other than his or her lawful spouse.
fornication
voluntary sexual [relations] between to persons not married.
uncleanness
morally impure or vile. (moral: based on fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on law.)
lewdness
indecent, obscene, inclined to lust or lechery, vulgar, base, vile or wicked.
idolatry
excessive adoration or admiration of anything other than God.
sorcery
black magic, witchery. (i.e. horoscopes, Harry Potter, tarot cards, fortune telling)
hatred
intense dislike
contentions
strife, conflict
jealousies
resentful or envious of other’s achievements, success, possessions, etc.
outbursts of wrath
Could this be when we are “just blowing off steam”?
selfish ambitions
Ambition is defined in the Webster’s dictionary as “an earnest desire for some type of achievement or distinction, as wealth or fame, and the willingness to strive for it.”
dissensions
quarrels
heresies
cults – any practice of faith that does not preach the Biblical doctrine of Christ
envy
wanting something that belongs to someone else, whether it is an object, something they have won or achieved, or the admiration or honor they have received from others.
murders
unlawful killing of a person
drunkenness
impaired physical and mental capacities from the consumption of alcohol
revelries
loud parties
and the like
everything else like these things that haven’t been addressed specifically
...JUST A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT...
“Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.” Galatians 5:19-25
adultery
voluntary sexual [relations] between a married person and someone other than his or her lawful spouse.
fornication
voluntary sexual [relations] between to persons not married.
uncleanness
morally impure or vile. (moral: based on fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on law.)
lewdness
indecent, obscene, inclined to lust or lechery, vulgar, base, vile or wicked.
idolatry
excessive adoration or admiration of anything other than God.
sorcery
black magic, witchery. (i.e. horoscopes, Harry Potter, tarot cards, fortune telling)
hatred
intense dislike
contentions
strife, conflict
jealousies
resentful or envious of other’s achievements, success, possessions, etc.
outbursts of wrath
Could this be when we are “just blowing off steam”?
selfish ambitions
Ambition is defined in the Webster’s dictionary as “an earnest desire for some type of achievement or distinction, as wealth or fame, and the willingness to strive for it.”
dissensions
quarrels
heresies
cults – any practice of faith that does not preach the Biblical doctrine of Christ
envy
wanting something that belongs to someone else, whether it is an object, something they have won or achieved, or the admiration or honor they have received from others.
murders
unlawful killing of a person
drunkenness
impaired physical and mental capacities from the consumption of alcohol
revelries
loud parties
and the like
everything else like these things that haven’t been addressed specifically
...JUST A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT...
H
Hi Dr Croney,
How do we please God?
Heb 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
1John 3:22,23
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
What are our works?
"Believe on him whom He hath sent", John 6:29
This is God's will.
this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:40
As scripture shows our works show our faith and our works do lead to salvation.
blessings
How do we please God?
Heb 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
1John 3:22,23
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
What are our works?
"Believe on him whom He hath sent", John 6:29
This is God's will.
this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:40
As scripture shows our works show our faith and our works do lead to salvation.
blessings
E
What is so hard to understand? God's word tells us what is needed to be allowed to enter into His Kingdom. Let's read it;
Rev.22
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
But now where does God EVER say that keeping His commands perfectly are a requirement.
There is no contradiction. There only APPEARS to be one because you believe that James said something that he clearly did not.
Does James statement below mean that we must keep God's laws perfectly?
"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law."
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E
That is the ONLY set of laws that were nailed to His cross. Consider what happened in the temple the moment Christ died....the veil, where sacrifices were performed, was torn in two. Also consider what Paul teaches us to do;
1 Cor.6
[9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
[10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
The above must still be kept.
1 Cor.10
[7] Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
[8] Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
These laws must still be kept to the best of our abilities.
1 Cor.15
[34] Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
And what is this sin that Paul tells us not to do?
1 John 3
[4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
So tell me......which laws were done away with? Those that ended the moment Christ died?
Or the ones Paul tells us not to do above?
The answer is clear!
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I don't mean to be crass or cruel,
but aren't the sacrificial laws for sin?
I mean, what were they sacrificing for? - The sake of sacrifice?
The sacrificial laws were for sin; and nothing else.
Now, you have to ask yourself what is sin?
Sin is falling short of the appointed mark.
So it's hard to see the reliance on striving for an appointed mark, - (righteousness). If the sacrifices were for what mankind didn't reach.
It seems unrealistic to expect yourself(or others), to reach that mark now.
(I'm not talking about striving for righteousness; I'm referencing perfect righteousness)
Infact, the ideal of separating certain ways of falling short from others is frankly; ridiculous.
Sin is sin; falling short is falling short.
Falling short is sin, and sin is falling short.
It is not hard to comprehend.
The whole of the law is righteousness to perfection.
Since there is no perfect man,(outside of Christ), there is no man that can perfectly keep it.
This is plain.
And stated in the Bible again and again.
And if it's not; which laws can mankind keep?
The 10 commandments?
Don't covet. Because if you lust even once you are
less than perfect.
See how this works?
There remains no more sacrifice for sins(coming short of the mark);
if mankind tries to reenact the law back onto himself.
Anything short of perfection is utter failure.
For the blood(life), must be innocent(without sin) - without even covetousness.
The principles are simple.
The remedy is Jesus Christ.
Hear ye Him.
but aren't the sacrificial laws for sin?
I mean, what were they sacrificing for? - The sake of sacrifice?
The sacrificial laws were for sin; and nothing else.
Now, you have to ask yourself what is sin?
Sin is falling short of the appointed mark.
So it's hard to see the reliance on striving for an appointed mark, - (righteousness). If the sacrifices were for what mankind didn't reach.
It seems unrealistic to expect yourself(or others), to reach that mark now.
(I'm not talking about striving for righteousness; I'm referencing perfect righteousness)
Infact, the ideal of separating certain ways of falling short from others is frankly; ridiculous.
Sin is sin; falling short is falling short.
Falling short is sin, and sin is falling short.
It is not hard to comprehend.
The whole of the law is righteousness to perfection.
Since there is no perfect man,(outside of Christ), there is no man that can perfectly keep it.
This is plain.
And stated in the Bible again and again.
And if it's not; which laws can mankind keep?
The 10 commandments?
Don't covet. Because if you lust even once you are
less than perfect.
See how this works?
There remains no more sacrifice for sins(coming short of the mark);
if mankind tries to reenact the law back onto himself.
Anything short of perfection is utter failure.
For the blood(life), must be innocent(without sin) - without even covetousness.
The principles are simple.
The remedy is Jesus Christ.
Hear ye Him.
E
Readers....... Not once did God EVER require man to keep His laws perfectly.
Not once did God ever TELL man that His laws must be kept perfectly.
He asks that we keep them....but NEVER did He require that we keep them perfectly.
Nowhere will you EVER find in all of God's word this definition for sin: "Sin is falling short of the appointed mark."
But you will find this definition for sin both in the OT and NT: "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."
Let's do as God's words tell us to do for correct doctrine;
2 Tim.3
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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Not once did God ever TELL man that His laws must be kept perfectly.
He asks that we keep them....but NEVER did He require that we keep them perfectly.
Nowhere will you EVER find in all of God's word this definition for sin: "Sin is falling short of the appointed mark."
But you will find this definition for sin both in the OT and NT: "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."
Let's do as God's words tell us to do for correct doctrine;
2 Tim.3
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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1. Readers....... Not once did God EVER require man to keep His laws perfectly.
1.The sacrifices required spotless lambs; red heifers with 'no white hairs'.
That's ALL God's law stated. purity of the sacrifice was an ultimatum.
(Read)
2.Not once did God ever TELL man that His laws must be kept perfectly.
2.This statement is obtuse, and therefore useless. The reference to the sacrifices state otherwise. - The sacrifices had to be without blemish.
3.He asks that we keep them....but NEVER did He require that we keep them perfectly.
3.Now the 10 commandments have become the ten 'askings'
4.Nowhere will you EVER find in all of God's word this definition for sin: "Sin is falling short of the appointed mark."
4. Nowhere in scripture will you find the definition of anything.
5. But you will find this definition for sin both in the OT and NT: "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."
5. That is not a true definition. That is an effect of sin.
It is not a definition, it is an effect. That is akin to saying
water is wet. (look that one up) - Does the effect of water on something make it wet? Yes, water makes a thing wet; just like sin juxtaposed to the law of God makes a trespass.
Let's do as God's words tell us to do for correct doctrine;
Yes, let's.
2 Tim.3
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
a.) So all scripture - (the sacrificial laws of animals without spot or blemish) - is given by inspiration of God,
b.) and is profitable for doctrine-(The perfect sacrifice/propitiation),
c.) for reproof(see the significance of the spotless lamb and first born without blemish),
d.) for correction(just in case you missed it - myriads of sacrifices will show you),
e.) for instruction in righteousness!(see a disconnect here?)
The OP says God doesn't require perfect righteousness.
1.The sacrifices required spotless lambs; red heifers with 'no white hairs'.
That's ALL God's law stated. purity of the sacrifice was an ultimatum.
(Read)
2.Not once did God ever TELL man that His laws must be kept perfectly.
2.This statement is obtuse, and therefore useless. The reference to the sacrifices state otherwise. - The sacrifices had to be without blemish.
3.He asks that we keep them....but NEVER did He require that we keep them perfectly.
3.Now the 10 commandments have become the ten 'askings'
4.Nowhere will you EVER find in all of God's word this definition for sin: "Sin is falling short of the appointed mark."
4. Nowhere in scripture will you find the definition of anything.
5. But you will find this definition for sin both in the OT and NT: "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."
5. That is not a true definition. That is an effect of sin.
It is not a definition, it is an effect. That is akin to saying
water is wet. (look that one up) - Does the effect of water on something make it wet? Yes, water makes a thing wet; just like sin juxtaposed to the law of God makes a trespass.
Let's do as God's words tell us to do for correct doctrine;
Yes, let's.
2 Tim.3
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
a.) So all scripture - (the sacrificial laws of animals without spot or blemish) - is given by inspiration of God,
b.) and is profitable for doctrine-(The perfect sacrifice/propitiation),
c.) for reproof(see the significance of the spotless lamb and first born without blemish),
d.) for correction(just in case you missed it - myriads of sacrifices will show you),
e.) for instruction in righteousness!(see a disconnect here?)
The OP says God doesn't require perfect righteousness.