God's Secret Place for His Church during the Tribulation

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eternally-gratefull

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Re: God’s Secret Place for His Church during the Tribulation

All this on this thread and all this scripture, and you still think it’s the Jews of the flesh that are protected and fed by God away from the tribulation why’ll Christians have to go through tribulation and Jews don’t
God does not just protect jews. I think he protects others too.

I find it amazing you think God will protect people who are already saved, yet will allow people who have yet to be saved to be killed before they have this chance..

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Don’t be like most of our forefathers that were stiff neck and uncircumcised in heart and ears and harden their hearts when they heard the word of the lord .
Today if you hear the word of the lord harden not your hearts

Hebrews 3:15 While it is said, Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

Hebrews 4:7 --Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

look in the mirror. And repeat this to yourself. Because you need to hear it.
God has always protected those he knows will come to him, And he always will.
 
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AgapeSpiritEyes

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Finding God’s Secret Place

God has a place for the church to live during the Great Tribulation. He calls it the “secret place”. We will be feed and taken care of for “a time, times and the dividing of time”, or “one-thousand, two hundred and three score days”, or “forty-two months”, all of which is equals to 3.5yrs. We will be kept from ALL harm. The wild beast we will not fear. We will be able to see the destruction and wrath of God on all sides, but no harm will become us. There will be plenty of water, fruit and herbs for us to enjoy. Those that are ill will become well. The desert will bring forth grass. The parched land will become a pool of water.

Does that sound great or what? To some it may even sound hard to believe, but it’s true! God has a secret place for the church during the Great Tribulation (GT) period and it is described just as I said above. The description can be found throughout the bible. And yes…this place is right here on earth. NO….we are NOT going to be taken from this earth off to heaven during the GT. We will be right here in the wilderness, if you are so blessed, where God told us to go.

I’m sure some are saying “Where in the bible does it say all of that?”. Well, if we follow God’s instructions for reading and studying His word it can be found everywhere.

Isa.28
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Topic with topic. Line upon line. Searching the scriptures here and there.

With that said, let’s find God’s “Secret Place”!



Finding God’s Secret Place Throughout the Scripture

Let’s think about something before our search. Let’s count how many times God had to remove His children from this earth because of His pending wrath and judgments against the wicked;

He didn’t remove anyone for the flood.
He didn’t remove anybody for the (10) plagues of Egypt.
No one was taken for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Nor was anyone removed for ANY of the many wars fought.
He didn’t remove Mary, Joseph and Jesus from Herod’s terror.

Not one time did God EVER remove His children from this earth for ANYTHING! So why should He have to do it for the Great Tribulation? He doesn’t. And He will not. Now let’s find God’s “secret place”;

God has a secret place or a place of safety that He will prepare for His church and He will keep those that understand safe from ALL harm for the entire time of the Tribulation period, 3.5yrs.

2Pt 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

This “…hour of temptation…” that will come upon ALL the world is indeed the Great Tribulation period.

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 3.5 years. Rev 12:6.

And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 3.5 years. Rev 12:14.

The woman above is God’s church; ALL those that believe and trust in the true and living God are they that make up this church.

But this is not the only place that we are told about a place of safety; there are MANY more scriptures to be found, yes FOUND! Because you truly must ask God for wisdom and understanding when searching His word to know and understand just what these scriptures are talking about.

Let’s read search God’s word and read some of them…..

Pss.91
[1] He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
[3] Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

By the mouth of David we are told the Lord will deliver us from the “snare of the fowler”.

[7] A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
[8] Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

There will be destruction on both sides but no harm will come to us. Why? He tells us…

[9] Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
[10] There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
[11] For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
[12] They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
[13] Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

The angels of the Lord will be there to protect and to guide.

Isa.16
[1] Send ye the lamb to the ruler of the land from Sela to the wilderness, unto the mount of the daughter of Zion.
[2] For it shall be, that, as a wandering bird cast out of the nest, so the daughters of Moab shall be at the fords of Arnon.
[3] Take counsel, execute judgment; make thy shadow as the night in the midst of the noonday; hide the outcasts; bewray not him that wandereth.
[4] Let mine outcasts dwell with thee, Moab; be thou a covert to them from the face of the spoiler: for the extortioner is at an end, the spoiler ceaseth, the oppressors are consumed out of the land.

Again God tells us He will protect us from the spoiler, and this protection is in the wilderness.

Isa.35
[1] The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
[2] It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.
[3] Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.
[4] Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
[7] And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
[8] And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.
[9] No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:

We will be fully taken care of. Food, shelter, water….we will not even have to worry about the beast of the field.

Isa.41
[18] I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water.
[19] I will plant in the wilderness the cedar, the shittah tree, and the myrtle, and the oil tree; I will set in the desert the fir tree, and the pine, and the box tree together:
[20] That they may see, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the LORD hath done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it.

Please note that ALL of these events are things that WILL happen, for the desert of the children of Israel are yet barren.

Not only is God's secret place hid from those with natural eyes, but His secret place is also hid from most spiritual eyes, for you truly MUST search the scriptures to find God's secret place.


Let’s review:

Who is this Woman that fled into the wilderness? The woman is the church.

Rv 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
14: And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Where is this wilderness and solitary place of God? The mountains of Jerusalem.

Psalm 91v1
1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
Isaiah 35v1-10
1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.

Why is the Lord(lamb) sent to the wilderness to the daughters of Zion? To help, protect, teach and guide those that arrive.

Isaiah 16v1-5
1 Send ye the lamb to the ruler of the land from Sela to the wilderness, unto the mount of the daughter of Zion.

Isaiah 41v17-20
17 When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, and their tongue faileth for thirst, I the LORD will hear them, I the God of Israel will not forsake them.
18 I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water.
19 I will plant in the wilderness the cedar, the shittah tree, and the myrtle, and the oil tree; I will set in the desert the fir tree, and the pine, and the box tree together:
20 That they may see, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the LORD hath done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it.

Why is this happening in the wilderness? To protect the church.

Isaiah 43v19-20
19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.
20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

Please understand…..the wilderness is NOT now what it is yet to be! Why? Well…..what has man ALWAYS done to fertile ground? Build, pollute and destroy! But there will come a time when you will see a change near the mountains of Jerusalem. Water WILL start to spring forth! Flowers, fruits and trees WILL start to bloom! Beast will start to migrate! And those with wisdom and understanding WILL come! All that God’s word said will happen WILL happen! My question to those reading is this, What will YOU do when you see all of these changes taking place?

Its obvious that this place called the wilderness is not taught in many churches. It truly is a secret. God revealed this secret to his prophets, and to all with wisdom and understanding.

Now that you know…….What will YOU do when you see the signs in the wilderness and the man of sin placed in the temple? Will you do as your God instructs? Will you have FAITH in His words? Will you FLEE to His “secret place“?


For the Jews during Jacobs’s trouble more probable is Sela Petra even there it will not be perfect heaven on earth.
I do not see any of this for me this is all oppriori thoughts i do not believe these ideas mostly they are conjured up from a fallacious premise, the garden of Eden or a restoration of all things is not to be made or formed on earth until Jesus restores all things.
 
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Eccl12and13

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So let me get this straight. You think everyone who left Egypt are saints of the most High God?




All I am doing is quoting God's words. God, not me, called those that were in the wilderness the church;

Acts 7
[37] This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
[38] This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

So who was the church? The entire congregation that left Egypt was called the church.

Is this incorrect?

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eternally-gratefull

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All I am doing is quoting God's words. God, not me, called those that were in the wilderness the church;

Acts 7
[37] This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
[38] This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

So who was the church? The entire congregation that left Egypt was called the church.

Is this incorrect?

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No, you are misinterpreting Gods word.

Church is the English word given in translation of the word EKKLESIA which can be translated Church, Congregation or assembly.

The house of representatives is an assembly, When you gather together in unity for something, you are called an assembly. are all these things churches?

Other examples

Acts 19:39–41 (NKJV)
39 But if you have any other inquiry to make, it shall be determined in the lawful assembly. 40 For we are in danger of being called in question for today’s uproar, there being no reason which we may give to account for this disorderly gathering.” 41 And when he had said these things, he dismissed the assembly.


Since this is the same greek word (Ekklesia) as translated in acts as church, why was it translated assembly and not church?

A better interpretation of acts is this

NKJV:
38 “This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, the one who received the living oracles to give to us,

Congregation also used by the NASB, ESV, and most other popular bibles

Assembly is used by NIV and some other versions.

At least try to study some..


 
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Eccl12and13

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To those reading that trust God's words and have faith....I pray you will obey and flee at the appointed time.

God has given us the signs and the warnings. Trust Him, have faith and OBEY!

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Eccl12and13

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One of the signs given to us is that a temple must be built. Let's read....


Israel Planning to Build Holy Temple, Claims PA Official

"The construction of the false Temple on the Temple Mount is closer than ever before," claims an official with the Al-Aqsa Mosque.
By Elad Benari


The head of manuscripts at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Najeh Bkeirat, has accused Israel of trying to "Judaize" the Temple Mount by building a new Holy Temple.

Speaking on January 4 to the Palestine journal, which is affiliated with the Hamas terrorist group, Bkeirat claimed that "the construction of the false Temple is closer than ever before."

Bkeirat claimed in the interview that an analysis of Jerusalem's development plans finds there is an intention to Judaize the Al-Aqsa Mosque, and within this framework build the Temple on its ruins and to then reduce the number of Arab residents in the city.

Official: Israel Planning to Build Holy Temple - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News


Readers...each and ever event that must happen WILL happen before the tribulation period.

A temple MUST be built!
Animal sacrifices MUST begin again!
A man MUST be placed in the temple!
This same man MUST stop the sacrifices!

ALL of these events MUST take place before the tribulation period.

What will you do when you see these events taking place? Will you prepare? Will you trust God's words?


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peterT

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I find it amazing you think God will protect people who are already saved, [


Have you got any scripture for that statement, or are you just making that up?

This is what happens to people that DON'T believe in Jesus.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


And you say God doesn’t protect the saved.

WOOPS!

There are the children of Israel crossing the red sea and the army of Egypt hot on their tales, but God kills the solders of Egypt in the sea. God saves them, and that was God protecting them.

The three Hebrew children in Daniel being through into the fire, BUT God save’s them and they come out without a smell of smoke on them. And that was God protecting them.

Daniel gets through into the lion’s den, BUT God saves him and that’s God protecting him.

The disciples, if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them, and that was God protecting them.

You’re reading too many of man’s books bro and not enough bible


And what do I need to hear? I need to hear some scripture from you because you don’t give any.

You do know that it’s the scripture that is the sharp sword of the word?

Or do you?



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eternally-gratefull

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Have you got any scripture for that statement, or are you just making that up?

This is what happens to people that DON'T believe in Jesus.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


And you say God doesn’t protect the saved.

WOOPS!

lol. How one gets that christians will not suffer condemnation. to prove your point.. This is what happens when people want to put their belief above the words of God.


There are the children of Israel crossing the red sea and the army of Egypt hot on their tales, but God kills the solders of Egypt in the sea. God saves them, and that was God protecting them.
The three Hebrew children in Daniel being through into the fire, BUT God save’s them and they come out without a smell of smoke on them. And that was God protecting them.

Daniel gets through into the lion’s den, BUT God saves him and that’s God protecting him.

The disciples, if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them, and that was God protecting them.

You’re reading too many of man’s books bro and not enough bible


And what do I need to hear? I need to hear some scripture from you because you don’t give any.

You do know that it’s the scripture that is the sharp sword of the word?

Or do you?



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yep. And God was keeping his promise to them. to also fulfill his prophesies, which he will continue to do.

how many time does it say God gives authority for the beast to make war against the saints of the most high, who obey the commands of God, and prevail over them, until you come to a belief this will happen, and the saints are the church?

your the one reading books and not listening to God my friend.
 
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Eccl12and13

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Let's read God's word for some answers....

Rev. 12
[6] And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
[14] And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Above we find that SOMEBODY is protected by God for a period of 3.5yrs. Whoever the woman mentioned above is....she, or who she represents, are protected. To those that claim God does not protect His children my first question would be...then WHO is this in the above verse that God feeds and protects. My next question would be, if the woman is not the church or the saints, would God be protecting the unrighteous? Now let's read what Stan attempts to do to these that are protected;

[15] And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
[16] And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

Again....WHOEVER the woman is representing, God again protects her from Satan. So who does Satan go after since he cannot get to the woman? Let's read....

[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

So these Satan was able to make war with. Why? Because there were NOT protected by God.

Since Satan could not get to the woman, who was protected by God, Satan goes after the "remnant" of the woman. And what does the word "remnant" mean? Let's read....


Remnant - a small part or portion that remains after the main part no longer exists.
- scrap, piece, bit, fragment, end, off cut, leftover, remainder, balance, residue, shred, trace, vestige

Now let's read of the same account in Daniel;

Dan.7
[20] And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
[21] I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

Now just because Daniel did not mention anything about the woman does not mean that the woman was not still protected. But what Daniel does tell us is that some saints were prevailed against during the time of the tribulation.

Now who do we know was NOT prevailed against during this same time? The WOMAN!

So whoever the woman is or represents, we know that she is protected during the tribulation period. These are those that trust in Christ words and obey His commandment to flee....

Matt.24
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Now let me ask this question...... If the one that is going to judge the world tell me that there will be a time that will come upon all of the world that is worse than ANY time there has ever been, or ever will be, and He also tells those that are in a certain part of the world to flee to the surrounding mountains for safety, would it not be in my best interest to flee to those same mountains?

The reason He gave a specific location, Judaea, was so that we would know WHICH mountains to flee to for protection. If Christ had said, "Those in Tyre to flee to the mountains.", that would have been a completely DIFFERENT set of mountains. Jesus gives us just where His protection will be; in the mountain range near the city of Judaea.

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Another way to look at this is:

"Saints" (Set Apart ones) that are overcome by the beast are the elect. Not all believers.
The elect get slaughtered, because they call people out of Babylon and Babylon doesn't dig it.
The foreknowledge of being able to suffer the slaughter in the name of Jesus is the safe and secret place, because the biggest sacrifice they can make has already been made. They have no fear of death, torture, etc., certain safety along the way to the appointed time which they have accepted, even petitioned for.

That's just the impression I get anyways.
 
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peterT

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lol. How one gets that christians will not suffer condemnation. to prove your point.. . .

Don’t know what you are talking about, sorry :rolleyes:

This is what happens when people want to put their belief above the words of God.




Yes this is what happens
, and the saints are the church?

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Yes the saints are the church and so is the woman that flees into the wilderness for there is only one body the church.
And nobody is disagreeing that the beast makes war with the saints and overcome them, and prevailed against them.

But these are they that don’t flee to the wilderness for the ones that flee to the wilderness are protected and fed by God.




your the one reading books and not listening to God my friend.

NO
it’s not me that’s a reader of man’s books but it’s you. I am just interested in the Bible, and that’s the only book I am interested in reading.

And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many, and there not coming through reading the Bible but through reading man’s books. Do the Math
 
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Eccl12and13

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Readers....God gave man some very specific events that are to take place BEFORE the tribulation period;

A temple MUST be built!
Animal sacrifices MUST begin again!
A man MUST be placed in the temple!
This same man MUST stop the sacrifices!

Animal sacrifices do not have to wait for a temple to be built, so we may actually see this event happen BEFORE the building of the temple.

One thing we do know for sure is that before a man can be placed into a temple, a temple must first be built. And according to the Temple Institute, building a temple can take as little as 90 days.

Along with these events God also gave us very specific instructions as to WHEN to flee into the wilderness.

Question; When you see the temple being built; when you see armies protecting a man as he is placed into the newly built temple; and when you finally see the man placed in the temple and you have not been taken from this earth....... what will you do? Will you wait just a bit longer?

God warns us not only are we to flee when we see the man placed into the temple, but to do so with such a quickness and sense of urgency, when we see the man placed into the temple we are not to go back into our homes to gather clothes.


Once the door to the ark was shut and the rain started to fall..........it was too late!!


So tell me....how long will you wait to be taken?

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nathan3

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#73
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A lot of this thread and post here are lacking a bunch of scriptures. non of it makes sense to me. :/
 
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Eccl12and13

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A lot of this thread and post here are lacking a bunch of scriptures. non of it makes sense to me. :/

I realize some may not be familiar with some of events spoken of and their location in the bible....so tell me....which would you like to read scriptures about?


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Eccl12and13

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Readers....let's read what the word of God has to say about the time before Christ returns;

Rev.9
3] And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
[4] And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
[5] And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
[6] And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
[7] And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
[8] And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
[9] And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
[10] And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.


Now let's read of something man is making;


By Michael Zennie
PUBLISHED:19:11 EST, 19 February 2013| UPDATED:19:29 EST, 19 February 2013

The U.S. Air Force is developing tiny unmanned drones that will fly in swarms, hover like bees, crawl like spiders and even sneak up on unsuspecting targets and execute them with lethal precision.

The Air Vehicles Directorate, a research arm of the Air Force, has released a computer-animated video outlining the the future capabilities of Micro Air Vehicles (MAVs). The project promises to revolutionize war by down-sizing the combatants.
'MAVs will become a vital element in the ever-changing war-fighting environment and will help ensure success on the battlefield of the future,' the narrator intones.

'Unobtrusive, pervasive, lethal - Micro Air Vehicles, enhancing the capabilities of the future war fighter.'

Hovering: Micro Air Vehicles (MAVs) are the future of the unmanned drones program, according to a new video from the Air Force. The Air Force has already developed a drone capable of hovering like a moth.

Perching: The video, released by the Air Vehicle Directorate, shows a pigeon-like drone that can draw power from an electrical wire while its camera watches a target.

Crawling: The drones will be equipped with legs so that they can crawl through tight spaces like an insect.


The project, which is based at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, was revealed in the March issue of the National Geographic magazine.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/03/unmanned-flight/horgan-text.


God's words will come to past. A time is coming where men will be tormented to the point that they desire death more than life.

Those that obey the word of God and flee will not be exposed to these upcoming events.

Those that are in the wilderness will be protected but will see all of these events;

Pss. 91
[1] He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
[2] I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
[3] Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
[4] He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
[5] Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
[6] Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
[7] A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
[8] Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
[9] Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
[10] There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.


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Readers....let's read what the word of God has to say about the time before Christ returns;

Rev.9
3] And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
[4] And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
[5] And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
[6] And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
[7] And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
[8] And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
[9] And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
[10] And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.


Now let's read of something man is making;


By Michael Zennie
PUBLISHED:19:11 EST, 19 February 2013| UPDATED:19:29 EST, 19 February 2013

The U.S. Air Force is developing tiny unmanned drones that will fly in swarms, hover like bees, crawl like spiders and even sneak up on unsuspecting targets and execute them with lethal precision.

The Air Vehicles Directorate, a research arm of the Air Force, has released a computer-animated video outlining the the future capabilities of Micro Air Vehicles (MAVs). The project promises to revolutionize war by down-sizing the combatants.
'MAVs will become a vital element in the ever-changing war-fighting environment and will help ensure success on the battlefield of the future,' the narrator intones.

'Unobtrusive, pervasive, lethal - Micro Air Vehicles, enhancing the capabilities of the future war fighter.'

Hovering: Micro Air Vehicles (MAVs) are the future of the unmanned drones program, according to a new video from the Air Force. The Air Force has already developed a drone capable of hovering like a moth.

Perching: The video, released by the Air Vehicle Directorate, shows a pigeon-like drone that can draw power from an electrical wire while its camera watches a target.

Crawling: The drones will be equipped with legs so that they can crawl through tight spaces like an insect.


The project, which is based at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, was revealed in the March issue of the National Geographic magazine.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/03/unmanned-flight/horgan-text.


God's words will come to past. A time is coming where men will be tormented to the point that they desire death more than life.

Those that obey the word of God and flee will not be exposed to these upcoming events.

Those that are in the wilderness will be protected but will see all of these events;

Pss. 91
[1] He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
[2] I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
[3] Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
[4] He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
[5] Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
[6] Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
[7] A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
[8] Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
[9] Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
[10] There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.


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That reminds me of this verse


1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
 
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Re: God’s Secret Place for His Church during the Tribulation

Have you got any scripture for that statement, or are you just making that up?

This is what happens to people that DON'T believe in Jesus.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


And you say God doesn’t protect the saved.

WOOPS!

There are the children of Israel crossing the red sea and the army of Egypt hot on their tales, but God kills the solders of Egypt in the sea. God saves them, and that was God protecting them.

The three Hebrew children in Daniel being through into the fire, BUT God save’s them and they come out without a smell of smoke on them. And that was God protecting them.

Daniel gets through into the lion’s den, BUT God saves him and that’s God protecting him.

The disciples, if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them, and that was God protecting them.

You’re reading too many of man’s books bro and not enough bible


And what do I need to hear? I need to hear some scripture from you because you don’t give any.

You do know that it’s the scripture that is the sharp sword of the word?

Or do you?



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Are these verses incorrect peterT?
Psa 116:15 Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.
2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Scripture tells us that Stephen was martyred.

What about the Apostles?
Andrew was crucified on an x-shaped cross.
Bartholomew was flayed alive by knives.
James was beheaded by Herod.
James was sawed in pieces.
Jude was killed with arrows at Ararat.
Matthew was martyred.
Peter was martyred head down-ward on the cross.
Philip was said to be hanged.
Simon was martyred.
Thomas was killed with a spear.

What about our fellow brothers and sisters that are being raped, tortured, beaten, murdered, for their faith and love for our Lord Jesus Christ in many countries today?

Have you not read about our fellow brethern and how they died bearing witness of the truth who have gone to be with the Lord in Foxes Book of Martrys or Martyrs Mirror? O yea I forgot you don't read man's books. Woops.

1Christianwarrior316






 
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that place would be having the truth secure in your mind.
 
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Re: God’s Secret Place for His Church during the Tribulation


Are these verses incorrect peterT?
Psa 116:15 Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.
2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Scripture tells us that Stephen was martyred.

What about the Apostles?
Andrew was crucified on an x-shaped cross.
Bartholomew was flayed alive by knives.
James was beheaded by Herod.
James was sawed in pieces.
Jude was killed with arrows at Ararat.
Matthew was martyred.
Peter was martyred head down-ward on the cross.
Philip was said to be hanged.
Simon was martyred.
Thomas was killed with a spear.

What about our fellow brothers and sisters that are being raped, tortured, beaten, murdered, for their faith and love for our Lord Jesus Christ in many countries today?

Have you not read about our fellow brethern and how they died bearing witness of the truth who have gone to be with the Lord in Foxes Book of Martrys or Martyrs Mirror? O yea I forgot you don't read man's books. Woops.

1Christianwarrior316






Yes and what’s your point ??
 
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Re: God’s Secret Place for His Church during the Tribulation


Are these verses incorrect peterT?
Psa 116:15 Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.
2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Scripture tells us that Stephen was martyred.

What about the Apostles?
Andrew was crucified on an x-shaped cross.
Bartholomew was flayed alive by knives.
James was beheaded by Herod.
James was sawed in pieces.
Jude was killed with arrows at Ararat.
Matthew was martyred.
Peter was martyred head down-ward on the cross.
Philip was said to be hanged.
Simon was martyred.
Thomas was killed with a spear.

What about our fellow brothers and sisters that are being raped, tortured, beaten, murdered, for their faith and love for our Lord Jesus Christ in many countries today?

Have you not read about our fellow brethern and how they died bearing witness of the truth who have gone to be with the Lord in Foxes Book of Martrys or Martyrs Mirror? O yea I forgot you don't read man's books. Woops.

1Christianwarrior316






I think you might have misinterpreted what I said.

Lots are killed and overcome, and some are protected in the wilderness, maybe read post 71 it might help.

The two end time witnesses are fed and protected for 1260 days and then are killed after they have they have finished their testimony.


God can protect according to the bible, but he will protect if you flee into the wilderness.


I think I would rather flee into the wilderness, but lots of Christians won’t flee into the wilderness for one reason or another, just hope they are strong enough to keep their faith and love not their lives to the death.

Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.