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I am sorry, I was just asking for a link
sorry for the commentary.
in the future, copy and search the section you want.
it comes right up.
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UMM,I may be missing something but if there isn't a pastor alive today teaching the truth,what about their own pastor? (After reading that no wonder they have the party line down so well,but what about the rest of the story?)
this is where Abiding usually posts the guy cutting off the limb he's sitting on.
'parently the gapper gang never asks themselves that question.
anyways, i've traced DeSario and his network.
they all lead back to Kabbalah - some of them actively.
Could it be because they push law more and leave out God's great grace and the Holy Spirit working it out in us?
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Galatians 4
Example of Hagar and Sarah
21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,
“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”
28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.
Galatians 4
Example of Hagar and Sarah
21Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. 23But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. 24Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia;e she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,
“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear;
break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor!
For the children of the desolate one will be more
than those of the one who has a husband.”
28Now you,f brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. 30But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” 31So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.
Could it be because they push law more and leave out God's great grace and the Holy Spirit working it out in us?
None of them. The law is chopped up into several "parts" (so that they can justify themselves and say that some sin is not sin). Grace is merited favor. Nothing did they get right.
there's hope though.
Luke 24
44Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46and said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead, 47and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem. 48You are witnesses of these things.
John 20
30Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
Yes, there is hope. Once hope is a reality in our lives, heresies will be shunned and repented from.
Until this is a reality we are to avoid false teachers.
The impact these fellows can have on young and weak christians should not be underestimated.
i've been against them from the beginning, brother.
and will continue to be.
liars and slanderers.
making Savior out to be nearly nothing.
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It might still be a one time work for a few. Imagining the many hours and times many people need to spend to go against these peoples copy and paste and youtubing spam. Somewhere a line has to be drawn.
hmmm......you just gave me an idea.
aha!
(maybe that's why i've saved copies of everything)
have a request in to an apologetics prof.
for a public expose of the gappers.
i'll check in with him again too.