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Um. Jesus claimed that before abraham was, he existed.. Are you calling Jesus a liar?
And no, it was not the HS who spoke to moses. it was the God of Isreal. who was sent by the father and his spirit.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]“Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, And My right hand has stretched out the heavens; When I call to them, They stand up together.[SUP]14 [/SUP]“All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear! Who among them has declared these things? The Lord loves him; He shall do His pleasure on Babylon, And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans. [SUP]15 [/SUP]I, even I, have spoken; Yes, I have called him, I have brought him, and his way will prosper. [SUP]16 [/SUP]“Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit
Have sent Me.”
the one speaking can't be the father, or his spirit (the Holy Spirit) it must be Jesus, also knows as the son of God and the Son of man.
And no, it was not the HS who spoke to moses. it was the God of Isreal. who was sent by the father and his spirit.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]“Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, And My right hand has stretched out the heavens; When I call to them, They stand up together.[SUP]14 [/SUP]“All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear! Who among them has declared these things? The Lord loves him; He shall do His pleasure on Babylon, And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans. [SUP]15 [/SUP]I, even I, have spoken; Yes, I have called him, I have brought him, and his way will prosper. [SUP]16 [/SUP]“Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord God and His Spirit
Have sent Me.”
the one speaking can't be the father, or his spirit (the Holy Spirit) it must be Jesus, also knows as the son of God and the Son of man.
"I am" is a constant STATE OF BEING. Everyone living today feels as though "they've always been here as long as they can remember. You and your word are one (hopefully). If you were in another room and you ask your kid or your wife for a glass of water, the word or sound spoken is identified as you even if your child or wife cannot see you.
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lol wow.
1. Jesus did not just say before abraham was I am. in the greek he literally said before abraham was. I always existed.
2. I do not know anyone who would think they were here before abraham. thus your example does not begin to answer the question
3. why did you totally ignore the passage I gave you? who was it who spoke to Isreal? if it was not the father or spirit, and not jesus, then who was it?
1. Jesus did not just say before abraham was I am. in the greek he literally said before abraham was. I always existed.
2. I do not know anyone who would think they were here before abraham. thus your example does not begin to answer the question
3. why did you totally ignore the passage I gave you? who was it who spoke to Isreal? if it was not the father or spirit, and not jesus, then who was it?
