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Until very recently it was taught the one designated by the RCC a saint, Patrick, arrived to Ireland in a boat made of stone. There are yet Catholics who believe this and teach this although even the RCC dismissed St. Patrick decades ago as being ficticious. It is taught here in Spain that Santiago (St. James) brought the image of the Virgin of Almudena to Madrid. These same believers have dubbed James "Moor Killer." Another of these illustrious Catholics is given the title, Jew Killer. Today hundreds of millions are being paid out for expenses across Spain for what they call Holy Week, while people are losing their homes and hungry. Does any of this reflect the love that is God? If you believe this divergent behavior is normal for any church, all I can say to you is chapeau to your reasoning. Very recently in Valencia, Spain, there was a plea for people to submit all the miracles attributed to Mary, that most blessed woman. I am not confused though others may be, the only miracles are worked by our Father in the name of Jesus Christ, not be those who are presently asleep.
Here we go again. Are you convinced that the Protestant world is free of any wrong doing?
 

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Here we go again. Are you convinced that the Protestant world is free of any wrong doing?
If you are the pot there isn't much point calling the kettle black. The thing about Christianity is that it is a personal journey about changing, be it ever-so slowly, from darkness into light and from error into truth.
 
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People often believe faith in God is completely personal but if you read the Bible, you'll find it regularly talks about faith as a community. There's too much emphasis on the individual. It's not healthy.
 
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People often believe faith in God is completely personal but if you read the Bible, you'll find it regularly talks about faith as a community. There's too much emphasis on the individual. It's not healthy.
Amen!! Every time you say something, it's short and hits hard. Far out!!!! lol
 

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People often believe faith in God is completely personal but if you read the Bible, you'll find it regularly talks about faith as a community. There's too much emphasis on the individual. It's not healthy.
Better the field of wheat than the field of tares.
 

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Here we go again. Are you convinced that the Protestant world is free of any wrong doing?
I f you read my posts previous you would know that I do not believe any doctrine of the Protestants or of the RCC..........I believe the Word, and I believe the teachings of Jesus Christ, Yeshua. If all did this, they would come together in Christ with no labels or man made rules and regulations. Here is a good example from someone I knew in Clifton Hill, Missouri. The difference between the Methodists and the Baptists is the Methodists believe the rainbow is God's promise never to destroy the world again, while the Baptists believe it is God's promise never to destroy the world again by flood. Now a simple study of the Word on the subject would clear all that up for her, but it is better to follow without questioning. Of course I do not read all of yours.
 
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Here we go again. Are you convinced that the Protestant world is free of any wrong doing?
By "Here We Go Again" are you admitting these questions come up frequently? If so there is something seriously wrong with this faith of millions, do you not think so?
 
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People often believe faith in God is completely personal but if you read the Bible, you'll find it regularly talks about faith as a community. There's too much emphasis on the individual. It's not healthy.

to bad the church got away from this. So thankful I found a church which has this as their backbone of christian living.. Not just a bunch of people where you go to a building on sunday, say a polite hello. and never get to know the people you are saying hello too..

Which unfortunately in my many travels and visiting many churches, seems to be the norm.
 
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Was Peter not enlightened and his error removed,
Did Christ not foresee the error and even forewarned him of it so that when it happened he would know Christ is all truth.
After being enlightened by truth why then would any of the apostles writings contain any error since God's inspired words can only contain truth
Of course! What I said though was not towards after the "change." The fact is, we are all born in error and no one is perfect. SO making a statement saying the Apostles were without error means they were perfect and had no need for a Savior.
 
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By "Here We Go Again" are you admitting these questions come up frequently? If so there is something seriously wrong with this faith of millions, do you not think so?
The fact that these questions come up frequently tells me that ALOT of people are misled about the teachings of the Catholic Church and spend too much time trying to defame Her and upset Her faithful followers in Christ instead of researching the Churches position on all their accusations and praising God with Catholics as brothers and sisters, not enemies. I'm not going into this again. You sound like you're set on attacking the Catholic Church. Peace!
 
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to bad the church got away from this. So thankful I found a church which has this as their backbone of christian living.. Not just a bunch of people where you go to a building on sunday, say a polite hello. and never get to know the people you are saying hello too..

Which unfortunately in my many travels and visiting many churches, seems to be the norm.
That's a blatant lie buddy. If you knew the truth about what the Catholic Church does for the youth and how we fellowship, you would still say the same thing because your sole aim in life, it seems, is to attack the Church, and you won't let the truth get in the way of that. Obviously. But that's between you and God. May He bless you all the same
 

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The fact that these questions come up frequently tells me that ALOT of people are misled about the teachings of the Catholic Church and spend too much time trying to defame Her and upset Her faithful followers in Christ instead of researching the Churches position on all their accusations and praising God with Catholics as brothers and sisters, not enemies. I'm not going into this again. You sound like you're set on attacking the Catholic Church. Peace!
It is sad you are so fixed minded to think this. I live in the midst of doll-following, saint worshipping, papists, and since you cannot believe me, you will not believe what I know. By the way, this information is via the varied parrishes here in Spain and then television. Of course you will not believe me or anyone who reads the Gospel and believes it. There is no excuse for the woman on seven hills, none. You may read about her in the Word of God...........Yahweh. Please do so. sorry about the bold text, not intentional, by me anyway.
 
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Of course! What I said though was not towards after the "change." The fact is, we are all born in error and no one is perfect. SO making a statement saying the Apostles were without error means they were perfect and had no need for a Savior.
Far out, I can see good things coming out of this 16 yr old!!!! lol keep it up little brother.
 
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That's a blatant lie buddy.

Guilty conscience? Who said i was talking about you?


If you knew the truth about what the Catholic Church does for the youth and how we fellowship,
I know all about the catholic youth programs, and the same programs many other churches provide. I have been to many of them. But that was not even what I am talking about

can you ever show any humility? All I hear you say is we can;t know the catholic church or we would not make claims. We are not as unknowing as you think. Just because we disagree does not mean we do not know. and you have to go on defensive mode. God does not need us to protect his church, he is perfectly capable of doing this himself. You scream at everyone else. when you have no humility that I can see whatsoever.

you would still say the same thing because your sole aim in life, it seems, is to attack the Church, and you won't let the truth get in the way of that. Obviously. But that's between you and God. May He bless you all the same
lol. And more attacks.. wow..

Do you want to speak about what i said, and show me how your church does this? or do you want to just make unfounded attacks??
 
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How do you know Peter denied him three times?
Um. Lets look at the bible you claim to study.

NASB Matthew 26:31-35:
Then Jesus *said to them, “You will all fall away because of Me this night, for it is written, ‘I will strike down the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered.’ [SUP]32 [/SUP]But after I have been raised, I will go ahead of you to Galilee.” [SUP]33 [/SUP]But Peter said to Him, “Even though all mayfall away because of You, I will never fall away.” [SUP]34 [/SUP]Jesus said to him, “Truly I say to you that this very night, before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three times.” [SUP]35 [/SUP]Peter *said to Him, “Even if I have to die with You, I will not deny You.” All the disciples said the same thing too.

NASB Matthew 26: 69-75:

Now Peter was sitting outside in the courtyard, and a servant-girl came to him and said, “You too were with Jesus the Galilean.” [SUP]70 [/SUP]But he denied it before them all, saying, “I do not know what you are talking about.” [SUP]71 [/SUP]When he had gone out to the gateway, another servant-girl saw him and *said to those who were there, “This man was with Jesus of Nazareth.” [SUP]72 [/SUP]And again he denied it with an oath, “I do not know the man.” [SUP]73 [/SUP]A little later the bystanders came up and said to Peter, “Surely you too are one of them; for even the way you talk gives you away.” [SUP]74 [/SUP]Then he began to curse and swear, “I do not know the man!” And immediately a rooster crowed. [SUP]75 [/SUP]And Peter remembered the word which Jesus had said, “Before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three times.” And he went out and wept bitterly.




Because what was written about him was inspired. Not in error.

Did I say the bible was in error? If so, I am not a true believer that I claim to be.
Have you personally met augustine? if you did not. can you say the things written about him? or the things writtenthat CLAIM to be what he said are not in error?
This is what I would call, "The Fallacy Fallacy." Plus, this statement is weak and poorly structured and makes your stance on G-d brought at a fragile state. Anyone can use this agrument and say: "Have you personally met G-d? Have you personally met the Apostles?" If you did not, can you say the things written about Him or the things written that claim to be what he said are not in error? Restate you point in a different context, otherwise the whole point would be disregarded as double-minded.
 

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to bad the church got away from this. So thankful I found a church which has this as their backbone of christian living.. Not just a bunch of people where you go to a building on sunday, say a polite hello. and never get to know the people you are saying hello too..

Which unfortunately in my many travels and visiting many churches, seems to be the norm.
If you had said, "too bad the world at large got away from the teaching of Christ (not the teaching of the church)" I would have agreed with you.

And Jesus mixed among the people, which is how it should be so I agree with you on that. :)
 
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It is sad you are so fixed minded to think this. I live in the midst of doll-following, saint worshipping, papists, and since you cannot believe me, you will not believe what I know. By the way, this information is via the varied parrishes here in Spain and then television. Of course you will not believe me or anyone who reads the Gospel and believes it. There is no excuse for the woman on seven hills, none. You may read about her in the Word of God...........Yahweh. Please do so. sorry about the bold text, not intentional, by me anyway.
I believe everyone who the Lord tells me to believe, and i believe that I am being guided by the Lord. And the people that I do believe go by the Gospel and not only believe it, but LIVE IT! lol the problem with people like you is you make yourselves out to be so much higher than others and so righteous, ignoring the fact that in saying what you do, you are knowingly lowering the people you talk to, making yourself better, to make a point about something that you just admitted earlier you dont know everything about! lol Are you trying to tell me you have worked out the whole meaning of the Bible at the age of 68? Are you trying to tell me that you know more about the Bible than the Catholic Church who has been studying the Bible and preaching the Bible for over 2000 years? Are you really trying to tell me you have perfectly worked out the whole Bible? I can understand other people's points of view, and I love listening to them when they talk to me as a brother. But, when they come accross as judgemental, criticizing, know it all Christian wannabe's, than automatically I know that it is impossible for these people to be true Christians when they go out of their way to upset Christians by making points about things they admit to not having full knowledge about- " Of course I do not read all of yours." Stay away from me please. in the name of Jesus Christ I order you to leave me alone!!!
 

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Guilty conscience? Who said i was talking about you?




I know all about the catholic youth programs, and the same programs many other churches provide. I have been to many of them. But that was not even what I am talking about

can you ever show any humility? All I hear you say is we can;t know the catholic church or we would not make claims. We are not as unknowing as you think. Just because we disagree does not mean we do not know. and you have to go on defensive mode. God does not need us to protect his church, he is perfectly capable of doing this himself. You scream at everyone else. when you have no humility that I can see whatsoever. [/B

lol. And more attacks.. wow..

Do you want to speak about what i said, and show me how your church does this? or do you want to just make unfounded attacks??
]How very sad not to be able to discern between observations which are valid and true and the dogmas of a sect. When there is honest contribution it is rejected by ego and ignorance. Ego for not stopping to understand and respond with understanding, and ignorance for believing what you post is infallible. I will always advise anyone to go to the teachings of our Savior, the Gospel, for I did not die on the cross and suffer horribly, it is our blessed Savior Who has done all for all who willingly receive His tremendous and free gift, salvation.