"The rebellion to God must cease BEFORE forgiveness can be granted" are you kidding me!!! Where is that in the Bible? You are preaching a false gospel, your preaching before you can get saved you have to stop your evil works!! What of Paul, he was on his way to kill Christians when Jesus revealed Himself, David was a murderer and an adulteries, yet God called him "a man after my own heart "Moses had anger issues and killed a man yet God showed him His glory, Abraham was an idol worshipper and lied about his wife, and God called him His friend, after salvation the Holy spirit convicts us of our sin, not before! Your message is false
No I am not kidding.
What do you think this means?
Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but
whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
Has God changed? You must think He has.
Jer 26:13 Therefore now
amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you.
It is sin which separates someone from God. There can be no forgiveness and communion with God whilst in a state of rebellion.
Isa 59:2 But
your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Isa 55:7
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
What do you do with those scriptures above Carey? Do you just ignore them or do you someone think they don't apply any more?
What about Nineveh?
Jon 3:6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
Jon 3:7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
Jon 3:8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
Jon 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
Jon 3:10 And
God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Nineveh forsook their rebellion and Jesus even used Nineveh as an example of repentance.
Mat_12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it:
because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
The greater than Jonah was Jesus and Jesus preached repentance. Does not the repentance message of Jesus include the forsaking of rebellion?
Luk 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but,
except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Luk 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
Luk 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but,
except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Is this post too long yet? Have I twisted the Bible yet?
Am I telling you the truth?
In the parable of the Prodigal Son the son left the pig pen BEFORE mercy was granted.
Luk 15:17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
Luk 15:18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
Luk 15:19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
Luk 15:20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
Luk 15:21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.
Luk 15:22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:
The context of that parable is repentance.
Luk 15:10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
Do you still say...
The rebellion to God must cease BEFORE forgiveness can be granted" are you kidding me!!! Where is that in the Bible? You are preaching a false gospel, your preaching before you can get saved you have to stop your evil works!!
You are not a Christian if you believe that. You might "profess" Christ and call Him "Lord" but that does not make you a Christian. A Christian is this...
1Jn 2:3 And
hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
If you claim to know Him but you disobey Him then you are a liar according to John.
This false gospel in the churches has fooled so many people to such an extent that they plainly deny what the Bible plainly teaches. If you tell someone that they have to do this...
Jas 1:21 Wherefore
lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
... they will throw 1Joh 1:8 in your face and call you a liar.
1Joh 1:8 is in the context of Pro 28:13 and the Prodigal Son for it is a repentance verse by which one forsakes their wickedness in order to walk in the light. The blood of Jesus Christ only cleanses those who WALK IN THE LIGHT.
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1Joh 1:8 has NOTHING to do with a life on ongoing sinfulness. It is purely satanic to twist the scriptures in order to uphold being able to sin and still enter the kingdom. Satan deceived Eve with YE SHALL NOT SURELY DIE.
You Carey are deceived and you need to wake up before it is too late.
The question I like to pose to everyone else is why do most of you you coddle people in their sins? Somehow you think it is loving to tell people "it is ok, God loves you and you are already forgiven." How can you all be so foolish to believe such nonsense?
Stop believing your false teachers and start believing the Bible!
If you sin you are of the devil and I am speaking of WILLFUL SIN which is rebellion. I am not speaking of things we do in ignorance which are not proper that we correct as they are revealed to us. STOP lumping all sin into one bucket.
Rebellion to God WILL SEND YOU TO HELL!