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Paul Nison interview (Christian Mindset Keeps People From Understanding Torah)

[video=youtube;km49n_bEGHk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=km49n_bEGHk[/video]
UUUMMM sorry to tell you this but this is a muslim attempt to stray you from the word of God.
 
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Do you not know that they are infiltrating our government and directing many churches. Exactly what they did to Lebanon in the 1970's or were born then. Lebanon was a Christian country till muslim doctrine took the masses. They don't change and use the same tactics. Freedom of speech can you say anything against Islam without them killing a bunch of people. wake up. we are under attack and political correctness is in their favor. I didn't watch the video it came to me when I saw unlearn. That's the motto of the Islamic movement.
 

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Do you not know that they are infiltrating our government and directing many churches. Exactly what they did to Lebanon in the 1970's or were born then. Lebanon was a Christian country till muslim doctrine took the masses. They don't change and use the same tactics. Freedom of speech can you say anything against Islam without them killing a bunch of people. wake up. we are under attack and political correctness is in their favor. I didn't watch the video it came to me when I saw unlearn. That's the motto of the Islamic movement.
Well, it would have been a good idea for you to watch it so you would at least know to content. The video is talking about the Torah, which is not Islam.
 
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Law,law,law,law even keeping the passover. come on, where is the cross. Nowhere in this guy's statement. It is leading you away from the cross.
 

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Law,law,law,law even keeping the passover. come on, where is the cross. Nowhere in this guy's statement. It is leading you away from the cross.
I went to lexmeyer.com. Some of his points I agree with. Some I do not.
If you are going to keep the law then keep the entire thing. Including animal sacrifices, severe punishments like stoning or even having your son or daughter sentenced to death for being unruly, rituals, and slavery. The list goes on and on.

Lets not forget that I believe it was Peter who said it was a "yoke the neither we nor our ancestors were able to bear" Acts 15:10
 
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What fad will you fall for next year. Churches are always coming up with stuff that don't work. The answer is the cross and the only thing that will work. Hold on don't give up and it will come. How many of you did the forty days of purpose, did it work. How many did the 21 day Daniel fast, did it work. How many said I'm gonna pray more and read more, did it work? the only thing that works is the cross.
 
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Law,law,law,law even keeping the passover. come on, where is the cross. Nowhere in this guy's statement. It is leading you away from the cross.
The law is of God. When you preach against law, and say it is for Christ, you are speaking opposing yourself. The law leads you to the cross when you speak truth. It leads you away from the cross when Satan infects your speech.

The passover is about Christ. Easter is about a pagan God. The word passover means God passes over to save us. How do you think the word Easter applies to Christ? Easter is named after a pagan god having to do with fertility, so there are rabbits and eggs. Passover is about the lamb of God who was slain to save us from death.
 
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The law is of God. When you preach against law, and say it is for Christ, you are speaking opposing yourself. The law leads you to the cross when you speak truth. It leads you away from the cross when Satan infects your speech.

The passover is about Christ. Easter is about a pagan God. The word passover means God passes over to save us. How do you think the word Easter applies to Christ? Easter is named after a pagan god having to do with fertility, so there are rabbits and eggs. Passover is about the lamb of God who was slain to save us from death.
Can you keep the law? Then you are a way better man than I am. Glory to your name.
 
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I went to lexmeyer.com. Some of his points I agree with. Some I do not.
If you are going to keep the law then keep the entire thing. Including animal sacrifices, severe punishments like stoning or even having your son or daughter sentenced to death for being unruly, rituals, and slavery. The list goes on and on.

Lets not forget that I believe it was Peter who said it was a "yoke the neither we nor our ancestors were able to bear" Acts 15:10
That is the law
 
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Jesus said mt yoke is easy and my burden is light. Certainly not the law. The cross is my rest and it can be yours to if you only believe it.
 
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Because everyone wants to leave out a part of God's message. "Just live by Faith" forgets that faith means faith in all of God. If they know that they can't be saved by works, then they discount works. if they know that faith without works is nothing, then they discount faith. If they know of the Holy Spirit putting the law in their hearts they discount that law is written for us. When law is Christ and law is love, then that is all they know. When there is a new covenant in Christ, then of course that is all there is, everything else is out of here. If they know the OT then the NT is nothing, and if they know the NT then the OT is nothing. That kind of thinking is wrong.
That is a globalized statement, "If they know that they can't be saved by works, then they discount works. if they know that faith without works is nothing, then they discount faith."

I believe a man is justified jointly by faith and works just as James said at James 2:24, just as you also do.

However, you choose to comply to the letter whereas I choose to comply to the spirit. The difference in the result may not be noticeably different in the immediate sense but it comes down to the fact that as the law of God is in me and a part of me I would find myself having to violate who I am in order for me to sin. (notice how that images God who cannot be untrue to who he is)

You think in such a fleshly manner that you are probably one who believes you cannot completely cease sinning while you are yet in this flesh. Am I right about that?

Because you are choosing to do it your way, you only need to violate a law outside yourself in order to sin.

Because you are doing it your way you are failing to put on incorruptibly in your spirit.

Because you think in a fleshly way you probably do not understand that right now is the opportune time, right now is the time to put off corruption and put on the incorruptible apparel of God. Today is the day of salvation. 2 Corinthians 6:2 "(For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)"

Do you not realize that before Paul speaks what he does at 1 Corinthians 15:35-58 he first says, 1 Corinthians 15:34 "Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame"?

Why is it that so many of you do not see that Paul is speaking there in the same fashion he did at Romans chapter 6?

We are to begin these things now with the help of Christ, first cleansing all corruption away from our spirit.

James 4:8 "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded."

Ephesians 5:25-27 "... Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."

2 Corinthians 7:1 "Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God."

Matthew 23:26 "Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also."

You will never do that by your ritual observance of that Old Law which was given to convict you of sin.
 
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Why couldn't they bear it since we are so Holy and so so self righteous. why is it not accepted by God. They couldn't bear it and nor can we. Where willwe lookto what can we stand on. The cross that's what and nothing else.
 
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The passover is about Christ. Easter is about a pagan God. The word passover means God passes over to save us. How do you think the word Easter applies to Christ? Easter is named after a pagan god having to do with fertility, so there are rabbits and eggs. Passover is about the lamb of God who was slain to save us from death.
this is an urban legend...the name 'easter' comes from the latin 'eostarum' which means 'dawn'...it has nothing to do with a pagan deity...

the rabbits and eggs have nothing to do with fertility cults either... the eggs are associated with easter because you couldn't eat them during the lenten fast...on easter when you could eat them again you would naturally have a surplus of eggs... the rabbits made their way into easter traditions when people found plover bird eggs laid in old rabbit nests...and the association between rabbits and eggs around easter time was born...

it is sad that this kind of misinformation has become so popular in christianity today...
 
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Can you keep the law? Then you are a way better man than I am. Glory to your name.
I believe in the word of God, I believe in scripture. Scripture tells me that no one keeps the law, only Christ did this. I am NOT Christ in any way. If you read scripture you know this, why do you ask? Are you suggesting that I should not listen to law or live my life as much as I can by following scripture? I do not understand why, if you are a Christian who reads and follows scripture that there are these questions. Are you suggesting, again, that following law is not accepting that Christ offers forgiveness?, Are you trying to make me out as a heathen who uses obedience in an unchristian way? Our disagreement centers on that I think that we must follow scripture and scripture says that we are not saved through law but by grace. That is truth. Scripture says we must obey, that is truth. One truth does not cancel the other. Scripture says I fail. Scripture tells me about what to do with that failure, and that is Christ. You keep talking against law, that isn't scripture. Why are we going over and over this?
 
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I believe in the word of God, I believe in scripture. Scripture tells me that no one keeps the law, only Christ did this. I am NOT Christ in any way. If you read scripture you know this, why do you ask? Are you suggesting that I should not listen to law or live my life as much as I can by following scripture? I do not understand why, if you are a Christian who reads and follows scripture that there are these questions. Are you suggesting, again, that following law is not accepting that Christ offers forgiveness?, Are you trying to make me out as a heathen who uses obedience in an unchristian way? Our disagreement centers on that I think that we must follow scripture and scripture says that we are not saved through law but by grace. That is truth. Scripture says we must obey, that is truth. One truth does not cancel the other. Scripture says I fail. Scripture tells me about what to do with that failure, and that is Christ. You keep talking against law, that isn't scripture. Why are we going over and over this?
Tent, the law was given for one purpose and one purpose only and that was to expose sin. It does not deliver nor sanctify. Only the cross can do that. It is our faith that is accounted to us as righteousness and not keeping a rule. That faith in the cross produces in us good works, such as going to church or helping the needy or feeding the orphans and helping widows are these not the law.