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Maybe we should rephrase the question.... Do you have a right to speak out against gay people unless you are gay?

That is a good point I didn't think of myself.

The ones that are set free from that are the best to reach them.


Loving Homosexuals as Jesus Would

Its true that the world perverts all of Matthew 7 but I also see christians do the same thing to some degree! Its a matter of taking it piece by piece (as we do any of the Living Word)and interpreting it in context.

Maybe Blond can help make it clear.... Turn your eyes upon Jesus and the things of earth will grow strangely dim....

Is it really our job to police other people and their sin?

Are we not to reflect the life of Jesus and love them and is it not the Holy Spirits job to convict and convince of sin and prompt them and us to turn away from sinning?

How many people came up to you when you first converted and pointed out every sin you were committing and demand that you straighten up and fly right? Or was it the Holy Spirit speaking to your heart that helped you to turn from whoremongering?

You are a very wise lady.

Without the love of God you can't understand the rules.

If you say it in a way that beats them down and pushes them further from God you are making it harder to get out of that lifestyle. In that case, you are putting them in danger. Quite loveless.


I'm getting the sense that you made this thread just to vent a bad attitude.

even Dr Who would have a hard time with that one LOL!

y'all doesn't need to be doing that

just don't!!

you don't eh?

well if that doesn't just....

glad you guys were amused by my post.....

We aren't responsible for other people's salvation or lack thereof. We are responsible for how we treat people regardless of whether they are saved or not....living in sin or not....alcoholic or not. Doesn't mean we shouldn't have boundaries or call the authorities if someone breaks the law. Just means that we shouldn't be surprised or offended by what other sinners do.

Originally Posted by Susanna

How can somebody be pro gay, pro fornication and pro adultery?







she's been here longer than you

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and you know what?

it is actually much harder to treat people nice for Christ's sake, then it is to badger them, harass them, condemn them and point out sin

I've had all that done to me even when I was innocent of what I was being accused of

I think sharkwales is on to something when he posted this:

this thread is starting to remind me of the common and popular grace vs works merry-go-round threads

Oh alright! I think it was the way you wrote it " or any sin for that matter" that led to the misunderstanding.
It appeared to me that you were saying if we are in any sin then we shouldnt judge for a particular sin.

We treat people bad when we want to elevate ourselves. Seems that our pride keeps us from denying ourselves in a multitude of ways and even worse when we elevate ourselves at the expense of someone else. Forced sorrow leads to death but Godly sorrow leads to life. That is why it is better to just care about people where they are....they will eventually share their heart and a boatload of pain with you. People will always go to the last place they were loved and sadly it isn't often that it's church people they felt loved by.

I can't rep him for that comment at the moment...someone should though! excellent post

Someone said you couldn't possibly be a Christian and gay.....

Well I am a murdering, adultress, lying, stealing, dishonoring parenting, taking God's name in vein, idol worshiping, Sabbath breaking, coveting - Christian.... Blasphemy you say.... Well it's true all of it. At one time in my life and even currently on some of this stuff as I do slip and fall on occasion.... I have broken every last one of the 10 commandments literally.... But and there is a BIG one.... I gave my heart to God and I am now called a Christian....

Who did the convincing of my sin? It was God's Holy Spirit speaking to my heart showing me the wrongness of my ways, that I should not have had that abortion, that lying was not good, stealing not necessary, disrespectful not to obey my parents and highly disrespectful to take God's name in vein.... hurtful to be with another woman's husband and so on...

So if a gay person is convicted by the Holy Spirit and has changed their lifestyle it is possible that a gay person could be a Christian they just don't practice it anymore as I now choose not to go against God's law anymore...the fact is I was all those things before and the gay person was gay... but now we are both Christians....

I still fall into sin at times....slippage - I get upset with myself when I do.... It's called repentance and asking for forgiveness and Jesus forgives us and saves us.... His instruction is as always Go and sin no more.... Only with the Holy Spirits help is that possible. Thank God for His love and mercy....

It's kind of like the servant who was forgiven the huge debt, turning right around and having someone else arrested for having a debt. (I think the king can decide how and when to deal with anyone, and forgive their debt if He wants. But many of us think it is our right to make that call instead of Him, and we are going to exercise that right, no matter what..... I guess, to show God how this "forgiveness business" [or lack thereof] really should be handled.)