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ilovehillsong

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I'm English, so i probably don't get half of the stuff, but over here all politicians get stuff wrong. And, give the man a break, you don't learn how to be in charge of the most powerful country in the world overnight. On the other hand, i do appreciate the feeling betrayed thing. We had the expenses scandal (Google it), where it turned out that we had been conned by most of our politicians, so that they could built moats and duck houses, etc.

Anyway, all i'm saying is give the guy a chance.

Please tell me if i've got it all wrong.
 
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barblee

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Being President doesnt come with on the job training. This man is not qualified to be president....sad to say this is what the world is watching now...he does have the gift of gab but that gets us nowhere.....we are stuck with him and a do nothing washington...they are all self serving and only care about their own interests.....they have lost our job market by going oversease for cheap labor....they do nothing about the oil problem...their decisions regarding the housing market and banks and corporate power and lobbying have been futile.if at all....they have recklessly spent taxpayer monies and have achieved nothing in return.....I am trusting in a higher power than Washington.
 
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forgivenandloved

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Pray tell what is the better way?
At the same time, we have thousands of people dying of curable disease because they cannot afford hospital care... Believe me, it's wayyy too expensive to be sick in America.

And, as far as Obama goes, I am glad that he is the president.. I may not agree on some of his policy.. But, the other candidates creeps me out.
Government run healthcare is a bad idea because the quality of healthcare goes down. It way too expensive to be sick anywhere. People die everywhere from that.......... its a fact of life a sad fact but a fact indeed.
 
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forgivenandloved

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Being President doesnt come with on the job training. This man is not qualified to be president....sad to say this is what the world is watching now...he does have the gift of gab but that gets us nowhere.....we are stuck with him and a do nothing washington...they are all self serving and only care about their own interests.....they have lost our job market by going oversease for cheap labor....they do nothing about the oil problem...their decisions regarding the housing market and banks and corporate power and lobbying have been futile.if at all....they have recklessly spent taxpayer monies and have achieved nothing in return.....I am trusting in a higher power than Washington.
whoa, whoa. Don't be so harsh on them. I didn't see any other candidate that ran that can do a better job. He has the gift of rhetoric which helps us in dealing with other countries before you beat up on the government let me see you do a better job. :) They care for us they just don't know what to do. They don't know what to do about the oil problem they are getting hurt by all this just like we are.
 
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Government run healthcare is a bad idea because the quality of healthcare goes down. It way too expensive to be sick anywhere. People die everywhere from that.......... its a fact of life a sad fact but a fact indeed.
Forgiven. Have you lived in a country with government run health care? No offense intended.
 
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whoa, whoa. Don't be so harsh on them. I didn't see any other candidate that ran that can do a better job. He has the gift of rhetoric which helps us in dealing with other countries before you beat up on the government let me see you do a better job. :) They care for us they just don't know what to do. They don't know what to do about the oil problem they are getting hurt by all this just like we are.

I think there may have been at least one who could do better....


Y'know... cuz they don't get way more pay and insurance and such...
 
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Commendez

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I laugh at the thought that people think the AntiChrist would be the president himself. The president IS NOT the one that makes the biggest decisions, he (and all other national leaders) are standing on a stage performing for everyone to see. I'm not saying they are evil in their thoughts, but they all want the power and title and they get it as long as they play by the rules. (I know this is COMPLETELY off track but I have to say it after the "Obama/AntiChrist" call)
Look up your very own US AIRFORCE seal and tell me how 'Christian' it is. Up close it resembles an eagle, in the middle you have a 5 pointed star and behind it you have an inverted pentagon. From a distance the whole thing looks like a V.
Lets break this down;
Google 'seal of Lucifer' and note the V. In paganism, the practice of 'white magic' is represented by an upright pentagram (5 pointed star in a circle) where they worship the 4 elements (earth, wind, water and fire) and the 5th element is a goddess of the earth- making it a female based religion. The pentagon as an outline of a 5 pointed star, so an inverted pentagon is the outline of an inverted 5 pointed star. In paganism, satanists openly worship Satan by using an inverted pentagram. They use the same 4 earthly elements but the 5th element is Satan, Lucifer (or another name, Baphomet) - making it a male based religion.
I know the eagle has been a symbol of power throughout the US history, but I think we can all agree that in recent years has it has become THE seal of the US. Just about everything that has to do with America has an eagle on it.
The freaky thing is this, the female 'goddess of the earth' religion can be traced to ancient times where the egyptians used an inverted TRIANGLE to represent it (like pagans use the pentagram) and an upright TRIANGLE to represent the masculine version of religion (we see this commonly used with the 'eye of Ra' also on your $1 bill). The joining of these 2 triangles has been a massive occult symbol for centuries (hence the word 'hex' for an 'evil spell' originating from a hexagon, the outline of both triangles in the same circle). This star has been falsely named as the 'Star of David' and has been flying on the Israeli flag since 1948 (thanx to the Zionist group) and the fact the Hitler tattooed this same symbol on WW2 Jewish victims has made it a common symbol to relate to Jews. What was the forerunner with regards to 'seals' that the Germans used? The same seal that the Romans used in the persecution of the early church, the EAGLE.
So in this ONE seal of the US AIRFORCE where your 'Christian' leaders rule, you have the seal of Lucifer, the seals of paganism that has a direct link to the occult 6 pointed star, and the seal of persecution to God's children.
So what I'm getting at is whether it's Bush, Obama or the next guy, decisions are being made that they have no control over. They rule their nation to some extent but we know that Satan is the ruler of this earth and Revelation paints the picture of what the final 'world dominating' government will be like. Is it a coincidence the the new TV series 'V' has the plot line;
"... that the aliens have spent decades infiltrating human governments, businesses, and religious institutions and are now in the final stages of their plan to take over the world."
We know the final 'world dominating' government won't be from aliens but from Satan, so is it a coincidence that the show's name can be directly linked the 'Seal of Lucifer'????
*Sorry again for going off topic*
 
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So in this ONE seal of the US AIRFORCE where your 'Christian' leaders rule, you have the seal of Lucifer, the seals of paganism that has a direct link to the occult 6 pointed star, and the seal of persecution to God's children.

Well thats just great....
wasnt how it was meant though.

The symbol has two main parts. In the upper half, the stylized wings represent the stripes of the enlisted force. They have been drawn with great angularity to emphasize swiftness and power, and they are divided into six sections which represent the USAF's core competencies -- aerospace superiority, global attack, rapid global mobility, precision engagement, information superiority, and agile combat support.
In the lower half there are a sphere, a star, and three diamonds. The sphere within the star represents the globe and reminds USAF members of their obligation to secure the United States's freedom with Global Vigilance, Reach, and Power. The globe is also meant to remind USAF members of their challenge as an expeditionary force to respond rapidly to crises and to provide decisive aerospace power, worldwide.
The area surrounding the sphere takes the shape of a star. The star has many meanings. Its five points represent the components of the force and family -- our active duty, civilians, Guard, Reserve, and retirees. The star symbolizes space as the high ground of the United States' aerospace force. The rallying symbol in all U.S. wars, the star also represents the officer corps, central to the USAF's combat leadership.
The star has been framed with three diamonds, which represent the USAF's core values -- integrity first, service before self, and excellence in all we do.
The elements come together to form one symbol that presents two images -- at once it is an eagle, the emblem of the United States, and a medal, representing valor in service to the nation.

And to add to that:
I am the daughter of an US AIRFORCE FIGHTER PILOT.


So what I'm getting at is whether it's Bush, Obama or the next guy, decisions are being made that they have no control over. They rule their nation to some extent but we know that Satan is the ruler of this earth and Revelation paints the picture of what the final 'world dominating' government will be like. Is it a coincidence the the new TV series 'V' has the plot line;
"... that the aliens have spent decades infiltrating human governments, businesses, and religious institutions and are now in the final stages of their plan to take over the world."
We know the final 'world dominating' government won't be from aliens but from Satan, so is it a coincidence that the show's name can be directly linked the 'Seal of Lucifer'????
*Sorry again for going off topic*
Its fine for getting off topic a bit. Good info...
 
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Commendez

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SOLOVED, I apologize if my above comment came as an attack on the US airforce fighters or the US people itself. I apologize even more if you personally felt attacked or in any way offended.
I don't disagree with you in that the seal has other meanings, meaning as you say, about core values etc. However, I stand by my views in that the world has taken a spiritual side and it's not with YHWH. Too many media shows, businesses etc are clearly identifying themselves with a V, either as a V upright or upside down to represent an A. The US airforce seal stuck in my mind when I was watching tv and saw a container from a distance and couldn't understand why they would have a V stamped on the corner, when the camera got closer I noticed it was the seal for the US airforce. If it was just a coincidence, you have to ask yourself why are there 'V's on the side of tanks and APC's and other vehicles the 'Coalition of the Willing' are using in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. Next time you turn on the tv check out the show "The View", or "Las Vegas" or even here in Australia, we have a business called Retravision, same thing, the V is bigger than all the other letters and it even has a V behind the logo itself. I know how common the star within a circle is used continuously within the whole US army itself, but you have to ask yourself why the 'Medal of honour' the HIGHEST medal you can get, is an inverted pentagram? Rationalize it anyway you want, in the end we all know the world is either with YHWH or Satan, and I'm seeing far too many coincidences with symbols representing paganism.
I don't, in any way, say that the fighters themselves are representing Lucifer, or are in on some evil plan to dominate the world but I do believe that the powers that truely govern a nation (eg the banking elite etc) do have other motives and these will not be made public until it's ready.
 
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dodolah

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Forgiven. Have you lived in a country with government run health care? No offense intended.
Exactly.. Actually, I have.. That's why I think a lot of the fear from US is assumption.
And, to have a friend who died from curable disease because she cannot afford healthcare really open your eyes.
Especially when the reason why she was rejected by the insurance company is because she forgot to mention she has acne problem during the form filling.

I am amazed that people in here prefer being treated by a system that see us as profit than a human being.
 
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dodolah

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Being President doesnt come with on the job training. This man is not qualified to be president....sad to say this is what the world is watching now...he does have the gift of gab but that gets us nowhere.....we are stuck with him and a do nothing washington...they are all self serving and only care about their own interests.....they have lost our job market by going oversease for cheap labor....they do nothing about the oil problem...their decisions regarding the housing market and banks and corporate power and lobbying have been futile.if at all....they have recklessly spent taxpayer monies and have achieved nothing in return.....I am trusting in a higher power than Washington.
and you are saying a mayor from Wassila is more qualified?
 
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callthe5o

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hmmmm, personaly, i dont think he is doing anything valuable for our country. oh and this is a true fact, 3/4 of the ppl that voted for him dont even know who he is or what his plans for america is. NOT GOOD!!!! and about obama's healthcare plan, its being attacked by that one republican that took the place of the democrat that died recently. texas is the place where there is most dissagreement with obama. tell me if i am rong, for i heard these thing on the radio. btw, SARRA PALIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT!!!!!!she is amazing! she said with her own words, she wants everything to be God's way. she is so passionate over the teens at school, for she has a couple and she knows what we go through. bottom line, sarra palin should run for president. SHE HAS MY FAMILIES VOTE FOR SURE!!!
 
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yoej_ogart

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hmmmm, personaly, i dont think he is doing anything valuable for our country. oh and this is a true fact, 3/4 of the ppl that voted for him dont even know who he is or what his plans for america is. NOT GOOD!!!! and about obama's healthcare plan, its being attacked by that one republican that took the place of the democrat that died recently. texas is the place where there is most dissagreement with obama. tell me if i am rong, for i heard these thing on the radio. btw, SARRA PALIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT!!!!!!she is amazing! she said with her own words, she wants everything to be God's way. she is so passionate over the teens at school, for she has a couple and she knows what we go through. bottom line, sarra palin should run for president. SHE HAS MY FAMILIES VOTE FOR SURE!!!
Dude! I like LOVE you right now! xD I completely agree with this post! Sarah Palin IS friggin awesome! I hope she runs for president! She has my vote as well!! Yeah.. I am so glad I live in Texas, most of the poeple hate him haha in California it was hard to hate him, everybody thought he was the one to make the world better.. Baloneyyy! x) God bless!
 
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forgivenandloved

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Dude! I like LOVE you right now! xD I completely agree with this post! Sarah Palin IS friggin awesome! I hope she runs for president! She has my vote as well!! Yeah.. I am so glad I live in Texas, most of the poeple hate him haha in California it was hard to hate him, everybody thought he was the one to make the world better.. Baloneyyy! x) God bless!
Sarah Palin has enough work cut out for her with his children.
 
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forgivenandloved

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hmmmm, personaly, i dont think he is doing anything valuable for our country. oh and this is a true fact, 3/4 of the ppl that voted for him dont even know who he is or what his plans for america is. NOT GOOD!!!! and about obama's healthcare plan, its being attacked by that one republican that took the place of the democrat that died recently. texas is the place where there is most dissagreement with obama. tell me if i am rong, for i heard these thing on the radio. btw, SARRA PALIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT!!!!!!she is amazing! she said with her own words, she wants everything to be God's way. she is so passionate over the teens at school, for she has a couple and she knows what we go through. bottom line, sarra palin should run for president. SHE HAS MY FAMILIES VOTE FOR SURE!!!
1. you can't prove that statistic
2. Sarah should stay home with her kids and if she's passionate about teens she should volunteer to work with teens not be president
3. he's in a hard position right when he came in the economy was going down and its hard to turn that around and then all of Bush's problems.
 
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forgivenandloved

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hmmmm, personaly, i dont think he is doing anything valuable for our country. oh and this is a true fact, 3/4 of the ppl that voted for him dont even know who he is or what his plans for america is. NOT GOOD!!!! and about obama's healthcare plan, its being attacked by that one republican that took the place of the democrat that died recently. texas is the place where there is most dissagreement with obama. tell me if i am rong, for i heard these thing on the radio. btw, SARRA PALIN SHOULD BE PRESIDENT!!!!!!she is amazing! she said with her own words, she wants everything to be God's way. she is so passionate over the teens at school, for she has a couple and she knows what we go through. bottom line, sarra palin should run for president. SHE HAS MY FAMILIES VOTE FOR SURE!!!
don't you live in Romania?
 
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Sarah Palin being the woman, of course, who bases her foreign policy on the fact that she can see Russia from her kitchen window.
Spare us all Lord, if she ever gets in office.
The rest of the world looked on in utter disbelief that she was even nominated as the GOP VP candidate.
 
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forgivenandloved

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Sarah Palin being the woman, of course, who bases her foreign policy on the fact that she can see Russia from her kitchen window.
Spare us all Lord, if she ever gets in office.
The rest of the world looked on in utter disbelief that she was even nominated as the GOP VP candidate.
thank you!
 
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I would honestly leave the country if Sarah Palin ever won the presidency. She was so obviously in over her head as the governor of one of the least populous states in the entire nation. Yikes. Nothing better came out of the 2008 election than Palin not ending up the VP.
 
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regardless....we are called to pray for and support our elected leaders...if you can't do that...perhaps there's more you need to worry about than bashing an elected leader