On Global Warming

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hornetguy

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Hail! Hail! The gang is all here....... There is plenty of attainable fact for any who knows how to read to understand that the screening of the atmosphere, the holes in the ozone layer, the shrinking of the poles with the disappearance of age old glaciaers, the shifting of the habitats of the biosphere and so much more demonstrate man's contribution to the nature our Father has given us to live in in cooperation is going to pot.

There are bound to be people or whatever coming here to say there is no proof when the evidence is everywhere. I pity them.

The truth is, the seas and oceans are warming while the polar caps are disappearing. The temperatures are rising, there are droughts in the Americas, Europe, Asia, Africa and Oceania.

This will not satisfy those who think their own politics is right even when wrong, so those of you who are of this ilk should not even bother to make these groundless remarks........
There may very well be "global warming" going on. I remember back in the late 70's, early 80's when all these "climatologists" were predicting another ice age. They simply cannot conceive that the earth just possibly goes through cycles, naturally. We don't have enough years of data collection to know if this is something to be concerned with, or not.

My biggest heartburn is the educated fools that are determined to blame it on humanity.... as if we puny humans could drastically change the system that the almighty God created. A system of checks and balances. Things change. Climates change.

The way I understand it, the "hole in the ozone layer" is a naturally occurring event.... it gets larger and smaller, being controlled by the sun, IIRC. But our educated fools have determined that we, in the US, a whopping 4.4% of the world's population, have somehow created holes in the ozone by spraying our anti-perspirant, and releasing our little puffs of Freon into the air.

Algore, indeed.....
 

JaumeJ

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If my pre vious post seems a bit harsh, I think being up against no evidence to the contrary of global warming it is not harsh.

These days folks come up deciding what is true with nor real facts, nothing empirical.

That approach is contrary to reason, and wose, contrary to the well-being of mankind.

If anyone here wants to say there is no evidence while the evidence is being presented at a constant rate, do this among your own people who make up things and then agree with each other, but this is not imperical, and not true.

We know who the father of lies is,, and in Jesus Christ I truly believe he has no place with those who are of the truth that comes in the faith of God. That fiath has led all who blieve to His grace. His grace does not allow for lies...not even with good intentions.

Anyone coming into this thread saying there is no scientific data supporting global warming........bring it in. Until then the evidencee, even proof of global warming induced by its inhabitants is here and overwhelming.
 

PennEd

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4. So what is the end game, why are "respected" scientists and (chuckle) Politicians pushing this?

It's really the same answer that any scheme has. Power, Control, and Money.

Before I knew ANYTHING about Global warming, I looked at the major players involved and KNEW I had to get BOTH sides of the debate to make as informed a decision as the facts dictate possible. I saw people like Al Gore, obama, Bill Nye, and a whole slew of leftist, freedom hating, socialist, mostly atheist, politicians and scientists, pushing their latest hysteria to control the masses and make themselves wealthy. Talk about red flags!

What about the oft cited, precise 97% scientific consensus we always hear about? Well, that number itself is a hoax, and if you think about where MOST of these "scientists" get their funding from it becomes clearer why they perpetrate this stuff.

The gov. gives you billions, but they want your results to show what THEY want to hear, and not only will your funding be pulled if you don't comply, but you will be ostracized, and in some places, the idea of even crimilizing "deniers" is gaining steam. Quite the carrot and stick approach.

So why does the gov. push this stuff. POWER. CONTROL. MONEY.

NOTHING has been more beneficial to humanity, and has allowed more freedom, and LESS dependence on Gov. than cheap, reliable energy. So their solution is to hurt YOU, through taxation, regulation and forced compliance. That is one of the reasons they HATE President Trump so vociferously. He is not allowing tin pot dictators and Global socialists to siphon money from Americans to support their fascism, by pulling out of obama's awful Paris accords.

Folks. It's this simple. If it's hot out it's global warming. If it's cold out it's global warming. If it's the exact mean temperature it's supposed to be.... you guessed it, global warming!! Hurricanes, global warming. NO Hurricans, Global warming. Polar caps less Ice, global warming. Polar caps MORE Ice, global warming.

Do your OWN independent reasearch. NOT relying on anything I say, or anybody else. Please look at the major players pushing this. Leftist politicians, bribed/threatened scientists, major media of all types, those that make money off the scam. We wouldn't trust these people on other issues. Why on Earth would we trust them on this?

One thing I DO agree with. GOD IS IN CONTROL NOT MAN! Be Blessed!
 
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tourist

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I read somewhere once that an average volcano eruption creates more pollution than all the pollution created by man since the world began. Either way, I really don't care if it's global warming, climate change or the latest phrase to describe the damage that man has caused. These are political terms and do not accurately reflect the many variables may affect the weather.
 

tourist

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There may very well be "global warming" going on. I remember back in the late 70's, early 80's when all these "climatologists" were predicting another ice age. They simply cannot conceive that the earth just possibly goes through cycles, naturally. We don't have enough years of data collection to know if this is something to be concerned with, or not.

My biggest heartburn is the educated fools that are determined to blame it on humanity.... as if we puny humans could drastically change the system that the almighty God created. A system of checks and balances. Things change. Climates change.

The way I understand it, the "hole in the ozone layer" is a naturally occurring event.... it gets larger and smaller, being controlled by the sun, IIRC. But our educated fools have determined that we, in the US, a whopping 4.4% of the world's population, have somehow created holes in the ozone by spraying our anti-perspirant, and releasing our little puffs of Freon into the air.

Algore, indeed.....
It's called an Algorerithm.
 

FlyingDove

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Memo: It's called Climate Change now.

Used to be called Global Warming. They we're unable to sell this snake oil as Global Warming. So, now it's called climate change.

No consensus:
The Petition Project features over 31,000 scientists signing the petition stating "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide will, in the forseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere. Really? HUM!

A few more notable fear failures:

1970 Biologist Paul Ehrlich predicted in the 1970s that: “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” and that “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next 10 years.”

1970, Life magazine reported, “Scientists have solid experimental & theoretical evidence to support he following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution & by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half

2006 Al Gore predicted that we had 10 years left before the planet turned into a “total frying pan.”

2008, Al Gore predicted that there is a 75% chance that the entire north polar ice cap would be completely melted within 5-7 years

2014 France’s foreign minister said that we only have 500 days to stop “climate chaos.”

Just more proof: The fear message of Climate Change is to raise $, grab power & control:

Global Warming/Climate Change.

The biggest Hoax since Sasquach.!

My opinion only.
 

hornetguy

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If my pre vious post seems a bit harsh, I think being up against no evidence to the contrary of global warming it is not harsh.

These days folks come up deciding what is true with nor real facts, nothing empirical.

That approach is contrary to reason, and wose, contrary to the well-being of mankind.

If anyone here wants to say there is no evidence while the evidence is being presented at a constant rate, do this among your own people who make up things and then agree with each other, but this is not imperical, and not true.

We know who the father of lies is,, and in Jesus Christ I truly believe he has no place with those who are of the truth that comes in the faith of God. That fiath has led all who blieve to His grace. His grace does not allow for lies...not even with good intentions.

Anyone coming into this thread saying there is no scientific data supporting global warming........bring it in. Until then the evidencee, even proof of global warming induced by its inhabitants is here and overwhelming.

Again.... your observation that the globe is "warming" may very well be correct. It seems so, from the satellite photos.

It is the laying of the blame for this occurrence that frosts most thinking people.

How long have the global scientists been "tracking" the temperature/climate? A couple hundred years? Maybe? Probably closer to 100 or less, but let's be generous.

How can ANYONE know what timeline the cycles of the earth's climate is on? This "warming" could very well be a tiny blip upward in an otherwise downward trend of global temperature. We might be on a 400 year cycle.... who could possibly know that?

As has been stated by others.... what is the reason for the "sky is falling" mentality? Follow the money. It's as simple as that.

You climate "panickers" need to read "State of Fear" by Michael Chrichton.
 

JaumeJ

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There may very well be "global warming" going on. I remember back in the late 70's, early 80's when all these "climatologists" were predicting another ice age. They simply cannot conceive that the earth just possibly goes through cycles, naturally. We don't have enough years of data collection to know if this is something to be concerned with, or not.

My biggest heartburn is the educated fools that are determined to blame it on humanity.... as if we puny humans could drastically change the system that the almighty God created. A system of checks and balances. Things change. Climates change.

The way I understand it, the "hole in the ozone layer" is a naturally occurring event.... it gets larger and smaller, being controlled by the sun, IIRC. But our educated fools have determined that we, in the US, a whopping 4.4% of the world's population, have somehow created holes in the ozone by spraying our anti-perspirant, and releasing our little puffs of Freon into the air.

Algore, indeed.....

At any given moment many individuals are predicting my events, even I have, not connected directly to the Word for that is just wrong.

The point of this thread is to inform all that global warming entails bitter cold winters. Not all but more than historically normal.

Someone has posted here that an "average" volcanic eruption produces more pollution than doesmankind. Perhaps teh Krakatoa eruption came close, but this declaration is in error about a so-called "average" volcanic eruption.

The facts presented by science and common sense are facts indeed and true. The only support agains global warming so far has been opinions without true imperical approach to any determinations.

As for the 70's and 80's, just as the roaring 20's, there were a lot of things being said by a lot of people,but hard science prevails when it comes to deducing and forwarding these facts to actual conclusions, that is, the caps are definitely melting regardless of the 70's and 80's prognosticators, and the oceans are warming each year.

I know God is in control, but remember many of the prophesies are brought about by the actions of mankind.

The funny thing about the predictions of the Bible, the ones brought about by men are because the Father knows exactly how man will act and react within the boundaries of the nature He has so bountifully provided, when mankin is not in consultation with Him. Praise God, He is worthy, not we.
 

JaumeJ

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PS......the only ones to blame are those of mankind who believe they can treat God's creation as if they are capable of doing whatever theyir hearts desire with no consideration of the consequences of their actions for themselves and others.
 

JonahLynx

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Many people are not aware that with global warming comes colder winters, shorter, but colder.

Do no say the term today is climate change because the seas are getting warmer and the poles are melting.

To say there is no global warming due to the cold winters simply shows a lack of education on the subject.

To insist it not be called warming but change instead smells of cover-up.

So any time anyone who is uninformed says there is no global warming because the winters are so cold, you may either isnform the person if he will hear or smile and know.
Education on this topic is so horrific that I don't even bother debating it anymore. Best of luck to you lol.
 
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Again.... your observation that the globe is "warming" may very well be correct. It seems so, from the satellite photos.

It is the laying of the blame for this occurrence that frosts most thinking people.

How long have the global scientists been "tracking" the temperature/climate? A couple hundred years? Maybe? Probably closer to 100 or less, but let's be generous.

How can ANYONE know what timeline the cycles of the earth's climate is on? This "warming" could very well be a tiny blip upward in an otherwise downward trend of global temperature. We might be on a 400 year cycle.... who could possibly know that?

As has been stated by others.... what is the reason for the "sky is falling" mentality? Follow the money. It's as simple as that.

You climate "panickers" need to read "State of Fear" by Michael Chrichton.
Most any of this stuff comes down to: "Follow the money."
 

Adstar

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Hello. I am sorry I was not explicit. I posted the quote from Revelation simply as an ensample not for a moment believing this is happening right now.

What is happening right now is the reaction to the actio (s) of mankind. Everyone who reads knows this to be a fact. Not to worry though, for most facts of this age will burn in the fire to come.....oops more fire.
No everyone who reads and believes what the main scientific establishment is putting out believes it is caused as a reaction to the actions of mankind.....

That's not everyone...
 
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the pollution that mankind has and is doing to God's beautiful garden
is horrific, shameful, not to mention - our soil, our seas, our skies, they are slowly
dying because of man's greed and lust...