The Gun Thread

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hornetguy

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jaybo said:
I know you can't accept this but there is nothing wrong with voluntary compliance. Law-abiding, decent citizens and corporations do that every single day.

In June, the Biden administration celebrated signing the most significant piece of gun reform legislation in over 30 years, a bipartisan gun safety measure known as the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act ! FANTASTIC!!!

Are you in favor of the gun-related violence that occurs so frequently in the US?

Your reactionary bias is showing!
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You are correct..... I cannot accept a credit card company keeping records of gun sales. If they cannot simply be a credit company, and keep their noses out of political matters, I want nothing to do with them.
When they start refusing gun purchases, then that is borderline, if not outright anti-second amendment, which would make it un-constitutional. Are you ok with that? That's a rhetorical question...

"A major credit card payment handler’s refusal to process transactions involving legal online gun sales is causing a stir among gun rights advocates.

The controversy started in September when Authorize.net, one of the nation’s major credit card “payment gateways”, ended its business relationship with the Hyatt Gun Shop in Charlotte, N.C., which bills itself as the nation’s largest gun store."

What about when the credit card companies start refusing "religious" sales, after the government labels Christian organizations as "hate groups" ? You'll be ok with that, as well, I imagine.
 
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hornetguy said:
You are correct..... I cannot accept a credit card company keeping records of gun sales. If they cannot simply be a credit company, and keep their noses out of political matters, I want nothing to do with them.
When they start refusing gun purchases, then that is borderline, if not outright anti-second amendment, which would make it un-constitutional. Are you ok with that? That's a rhetorical question...

"A major credit card payment handler’s refusal to process transactions involving legal online gun sales is causing a stir among gun rights advocates.

The controversy started in September when Authorize.net, one of the nation’s major credit card “payment gateways”, ended its business relationship with the Hyatt Gun Shop in Charlotte, N.C., which bills itself as the nation’s largest gun store."

What about when the credit card companies start refusing "religious" sales, after the government labels Christian organizations as "hate groups" ? You'll be ok with that, as well, I imagine.
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This is classic reductio ad absurdum. Where does it says that they are refusing gun purchases? FYI, credit card companies keep records of ALL your purchases.

If you think that credit card companies (and many, many others aren't involved in politics, YOU ARE EXTREMELY NAIVE!

And your interpretation of the Second Amendment is a JOKE! Exceeded only by "What about when the credit card companies start refusing "religious" sales, after the government labels Christian organizations as "hate groups" ? '

You are so paranoid it's a tragic joke!!! "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" Chicken Little
 
hornetguy

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jaybo said:
This is classic reductio ad absurdum. Where does it says that they are refusing gun purchases?
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You obviously lack reading comprehension. Re-read my previous post, containing a quote from one of the largest gun sellers in the nation. Read it slowly, so you can understand it.

Now, take a deep breath, calm down, and see if you can discuss rationally..... or, just continue with your sophomoric screeching.
 
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hornetguy said:
You obviously lack reading comprehension. Re-read my previous post, containing a quote from one of the largest gun sellers in the nation. Read it slowly, so you can understand it.

Now, take a deep breath, calm down, and see if you can discuss rationally..... or, just continue with your sophomoric screeching.
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I won't waste my time rereading your posts. Personal insults are the last resort of people who have lost the argument.

You are confused, wrong, and blind. I'm putting you on "ignore".
 
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That was quite the exchange, first jaybo insults hornetguy, then tells hornetguy he is guilty of insulting. :unsure::coffee::)
best wishes
 
hornetguy

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jaybo said:
Personal insults are the last resort of people who have lost the argument.
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How ironic that you would say that..... see your post, #3002...typical woke liberal snowflake. Accuse others of what you have been doing all along.
 
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shittim said:
Thank you ! :):giggle::):giggle:(y):unsure::coffee:
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:ROFL: the "sophomoric" description truly fits.
He likely doesn't know that word, so I'll give him the definition...
: conceited and overconfident of knowledge but poorly informed and immature :cool:
 
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Inability to control emotion stuck out to me.
we wish him well anyway.:)(y):unsure:
 
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A friend just shared this with me, this crooked hat young man is one of those in the midst of one of the atf attacks on the 2A.
At 2 minutes or so he is rolling around in the snow seeing he can get these firearms to malfunction, you might get a kick out of it. Best wishes-
 
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shittim said:
A friend just shared this with me, this crooked hat young man is one of those in the midst of one of the atf attacks on the 2A.
At 2 minutes or so he is rolling around in the snow seeing he can get these firearms to malfunction, you might get a kick out of it. Best wishes-
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This is an excellent test Shittim.
I've never owned one, but always heard about the amazing reliability of the ak. I'm not knocking them. It's just interesting to see the comparison videos. The results of the video tests showed a different story. His presentation is convincing. The one on pack weight was very good too.
 
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My goodness...... I HOPE that guy is on drugs.... surely he cannot be that big a bozo in an "un-altered" state...

What a tool.....
 
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Yes, I don't understand the hype behind the piston driven AR's..... the gas operated has worked pretty well for a lot of years....
 
shittim

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the penchant we have for keeping our firearms clean went south with the AR pumping gas back into the system, kind of like we did with cars, and we created a "smog pump" which did nothing to take any pollutants out of the exhaust, but mixed air so the PPM were diluted.
I have often thought the tattoo ink led to weird behavior:unsure:(y):coffee:.............
 
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hornetguy said:
Yes, I don't understand the hype behind the piston driven AR's..... the gas operated has worked pretty well for a lot of years....
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One of the so called benefits was to increase reliability. A guy took his AR-15 standard everything, that he said was running great, and decided to add a piston conversion. Last I talked to him, he was frustrated and couldn't get it to function reliably . 😄

I've read reviews on some piston ARs that were apparently reliable, so it can be done. I just think that like everything, there are tradeoffs. With some they are going from good to malfunction.
 
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