We know Jesus is not Jehovah/YHVH

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Dartman

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Jehovah/YHVH God made this promise to Israel;
Deut 18:15-19 Jehovah thy God will raise up unto thee a prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
16 according to all that thou desiredst of Jehovah thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of Jehovah my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
17 And Jehovah said unto me, They have well said that which they have spoken.
18 I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.


Peter assures us this prophecy is about Jesus Christ of Nazareth;
Acts 3:18-23 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.


Jesus makes it exquisitely clear, the words which he spoke were NOT his own, but were his Father's;
John 12:48-50 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


Therefore, we KNOW Jesus' FATHER is Jehovah/YHVH God .... and Jesus is not.
 

notuptome

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Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Jesus testimony would have you to believe differently.

If you are saying that Jesus is not God you are dead wrong.

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Roger
 
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Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Jesus testimony would have you to believe differently.

If you are saying that Jesus is not God you are dead wrong.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Jesus and the Father are one Jehovah God.
 

notuptome

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Well you are wrong. There is only one Jehovah God and there is no other beside Him.

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Roger
There were 2 Jehovahs, one in the sky and one as a man on the earth who ate with Abraham in Gen ch 18 calling fire down from the Jehovah in heaven.
 

notuptome

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notuptome

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There were 2 Jehovahs, one in the sky and one as a man on the earth who ate with Abraham in Gen ch 18 calling fire down from the Jehovah in heaven.
Jehovah God abides in eternity. Jehovah God is everywhere all the time. One God without beginning and without end.

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Roger
 
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Jehovah Himself died on the cross:

The burden of the word of Jehovah concerning Israel. Thus saith Jehovah, who stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto me whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born.
Zechariah 12:1‭, ‬10 ASV
https://bible.com/bible/12/zec.12.1-10.ASV
 
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Jesus is a fellow Jehovah:

Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith Jehovah of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered; and I will turn my hand upon the little ones.
Zechariah 13:7 ASV
https://bible.com/bible/12/zec.13.7.ASV
 
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Jehovah God abides in eternity. Jehovah God is everywhere all the time. One God without beginning and without end.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
God is not only one person. God is more than one person.
 

posthuman

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Jehovah Himself died on the cross:

The burden of the word of Jehovah concerning Israel. Thus saith Jehovah, who stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto me whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born.
Zechariah 12:1‭, ‬10 ASV
https://bible.com/bible/12/zec.12.1-10.ASV
this proves Christ is YHVH, thank you
 

posthuman

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Jehovah/YHVH God made this promise to Israel;
Deut 18:15-19 Jehovah thy God will raise up unto thee a prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
16 according to all that thou desiredst of Jehovah thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of Jehovah my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
17 And Jehovah said unto me, They have well said that which they have spoken.
18 I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.


Peter assures us this prophecy is about Jesus Christ of Nazareth;
Acts 3:18-23 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.


Jesus makes it exquisitely clear, the words which he spoke were NOT his own, but were his Father's;
John 12:48-50 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


Therefore, we KNOW Jesus' FATHER is Jehovah/YHVH God .... and Jesus is not.
please have a read through this thread:

Christ is God
 
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Jesus is Jehovah

because if thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus as Lord, and shalt believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved: for, Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:9‭, ‬13 ASV
https://bible.com/bible/12/rom.10.9-13.ASV

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of Jehovah shall be delivered;
Joel 2:32 ASV
https://bible.com/bible/12/jol.2.32.ASV
 
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Seedz

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Kind of out of topic, but why is Israel named Israel?

IS-RA-EL?

Is there a deeper meaning?