Why Do Christians Ignore Most of the Old Testament Rules?

Would we pass or fail this test?

Matthew 5
45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

We show the people how Jesus teaches not to teach against even the least of the laws, and they will not hear Him.

We show people in the test of His Word how He teaches the law is not abolished but fulfilled by Him.

I believe Jesus, because I am "under the Messiah," so you who do not believe the above try to be a little more in keeping with His Word......I am simply repeating it with understanding.

If being "under Messiah" is not good enough for you, nothing is.

who are you talking to?

show me where anyone ever stated Jesus is not good enough for us?

show me where anyone ever stated we continue in sin and do not follow Christ?

I won't hold my breath because you can't

for that matter no one ever stated the law is abolished. the law cannot be broken and the only One who accomplished that is Christ

this constant moaning and groaning about what other people are saying is preventing you from seeing the log in your own eye

to follow Christ means to do the good works we were created to do...it means to live a life pleasing to Him

why do you folk constantly deny what is actually said and make up some foolish thing like saying Jesus is not good enough?

we are IN Christ. do you even know what that means?

I predict you have a very hard time understanding certain things because you refuse them because they were written by Paul and few Sabbath keepers seem to accept what Paul writes

you can't make this stuff up

Are you familiar with the lifestyle and culture of the world God worked in to teach love? No police and no jails. Read some of the laws of the nations other than Hebrew

Living the "Christian life" doesn't keep you saved. If you believe that, you're trusting in your works, not in Christ. One can never be lost for any reason after salvation because we have no sins attributed to us. We are, and shall remain, as holy as Jesus is. For we possess His righteousness.

Is not living the Christian life a sin? Jesus paid for it already. Is turning away from Jesus a sin? He paid for that one too. Is refusing to serve Him a sin? Guess what?

Yep. Paid for already.

Christians can't go to hell even if they wanted to, because we have no sins left to pay for.

If you have a single sin attributed to you, you are lost and can never be saved, because the Bible said without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. Jesus isn't coming back to shed His blood for sin ever again.

We have been perfected forever (Hebrews 10:14). And we have the promise of Jesus that He won't lose a single saved person (John 6:39). Not now, nor in the future (Romans 8:38-39).

Matthew 7:12
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

This article brings out some very good points when we ask ourselves this question today.

Reading through the Old Testament can be a jarring experience, even for Christians.

To someone outside the Church, it looks as though Christians are cherry-picking which verses they want to follow.

J.D. Greer believes it’s necessary for Christians to educate themselves on the three categories of Old-Testament law.

Greer goes on to argue that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus fulfilled the purpose of the law

When I first bought a computer I eventually found my way to Christian discussion forums. I was delighted.
One site was the best site for any Christian to attend. When logging off to begin the work schedule, I was elated. Buoyant, at peace, filled with joy, and it felt as if I was walking inches off the floor. It was a joy to be there. Everyone, without exception, demonstrated what it means to be indwelt with the joy of the holy spirit. That peace that passeth understanding is a feeling that no matter how many years have passed I still recall as I write this.
Then it changed.
The owner from what I was told either passed away and their heir sold the site. Or, they simply sold the site because they were not physically up to keeping it maintained due to failing health. Two stories, likely one a little late on the news the owner they thought was sick had actually died.
After they left the site went down. Fast.
Trolls started showing up making posts as soon as they registered. Grotesque stuff. Porn ad's, etc... In the public announcements forum.
All sorts of wicked thread starts that ran the moderators mad deleting the posts and banning the newbies.

Then they put a waiting period on the registration. The new member had to be approved by a Moderator.
That didn't help.
Rather than wicked ad's the new arrivals were just wicked people. Atheists turns out playing the role I had never heard of till then; POE. They would pretend to be Christian, they would find a Bible site and cherry pick scripture and then enter into a thread that was already underway as a Bible discussion. Or, they would start a thread. They'd use the scripture they copied to insist all sorts of pathetic truths surrounded "the word".
Without exception they were ill behaved from start to finish. No kind words ever toward anyone that would challenge their position.
Eventually all the original members left. New moderators entered that assumed sock-accounts, dual accounts that made them appear as if they were not that one known by the moderator pseudonym. Initially they did this to not intimidate an open discussion if members replying thought a moderator were involved.
But in a very short time, returning to the site as some of us did, registering a new name, to see if the atmosphere could be brought back to what it once was, we'd find those moderators would be the worst sort under those pseudonyms. Because by then the site had been sold I think at least twice prior. And now the owner sold out to advertiser space. No control over who advertised mind you. So again advertisements unfit for a Christian community appeared.
Thank God for Ad-Block.

Then, after I think it was another sale, some of us returned unaware of that handover to find those Advertisements were now appearing peppered throughout threads. The more pages accrued, the more advertising $pace sold to make the current owner more money. As you can imagine, the trolling types insured page counts increased for the $. Those were the sock accounts belonging to the moderators turns out. Because they were related to the owner as family.

It became a Hell hole. And its reputation on the net spread due to members being banned due to the current owner being Catholic.
They sold again and it never got better. The owner wasn't Catholic but the site was still Hell. That family has two more communities active on the net. They all operate the same way. Badly.

Today it is still on the net. And today there are review streams all over the place that forewarn people not to go there if they are Christian.
The real heartbreak is what it once was is dead and gone .And its like has never been found by any of us who were those original members that remain networked so as to alert one another should we be so blessed to happen on a place like the place we use to know.

The manna of Heaven tastes dirt to demons. The light and peace of Christ hurts the reptilian eyes of the trolling wicked that seek to spread their vile shadow into sanctuaries dedicated to the God of lights and turn it dark as soon as possible. And their disguise often enough is to claim they are Christian. Especially, non-denominational. That way they are never found out when they don't know the means of worship certain denominations practice.
And then they go to work in their air of pretend. They weren't unique to that forum I spoke of. That forum was just one stop on their road to Hell. But they breed you know. They go back to their little nest from whence they sprang, atheist forums, chat sites, or school, and talk about what fun it is to mess with Christians. And how seriously they're taken when they put on a good show that always is intentioned to conflict with the truth of God's word and mercy. These aren't those seekers or new arrivals that are unaware of God's word and salvation and are genuinely at a site to learn what it means to be in Christ. These are people that no matter what degree of focus actual Christians commit to educating their errant scripture references and proclamations , refuse to deviate from that wrong understanding. And instead work harder to push their "belief".
And it is all to cause chaos and seek to lead those who are in peace into that one's state of mind in response.

I share this because any Bible forum , any Christian discussion board, are a target of these type pretenders. If you know their MO you know what you're dealing with.
They think Christians are weak because we're told to love our enemies and turn the other cheek. So they dig in as strong enemies and take satisfaction in smacking us around with regularity. They hope we'll respond as they do. We'll become what they are. And then they will "win" in proving there really is no peace in Christ.

I was a moderator of a forum, not the one I mentioned. We learned a great deal as new staffers about those type demon POE's.
Then I decided to turn the tables after finding a thread in a search engine quite by accident wherein an Atheist forum had a thread bragging about the steps one could take to be their very best POE amid Christians.
I joined the Atheist forum and posed to see how the enemy behaved and thought about such things. They're not intelligent in the least because they imagined their tactics published on a public forum was a secret from the Christians they'd harass when they joined their forums pretending to be Christian.
I PM'd the link to the thread to my fellow moderators, the administrators, and the owner. And they in turn did the same in a network of such overseers of Christian discussion communities so that everyone on their email tree at that time was made aware.

If you call the Devil by name it flees from you because it cannot survive in the light.

This post is my hope of shining a Halogen beam onto the very real fact those type devils I describe are still at it.
And you will know them by their posts.

No one comes to Christ but the Father calls them. Perhaps such demonic masses that sit before computers in their dark little holes are actually there because they're heartbroken Jesus will never know their name. So they wreak havoc while they still have time.

To God be the glory.
Satan was there when the Book was written. He knows the ending. His disciples likely shall be surprised.

who are you talking to?

show me where anyone ever stated Jesus is not good enough for us?

show me where anyone ever stated we continue in sin and do not follow Christ?

I won't hold my breath because you can't

for that matter no one ever stated the law is abolished. the law cannot be broken and the only One who accomplished that is Christ

this constant moaning and groaning about what other people are saying is preventing you from seeing the log in your own eye

to follow Christ means to do the good works we were created to do...it means to live a life pleasing to Him

why do you folk constantly deny what is actually said and make up some foolish thing like saying Jesus is not good enough?

we are IN Christ. do you even know what that means?

I predict you have a very hard time understanding certain things because you refuse them because they were written by Paul and few Sabbath keepers seem to accept what Paul writes

you can't make this stuff up

I pray you are saved by the Blood of the Lamb of God, all blessings amen.

is that how your mind works?

someone points out the fallacy of your mashup of the testaments and you declare they are not saved?

frankly, I find it more than a little sad that you think so little of this, that you toss it at me and deceitfully declare I am not saved

Sabbath keepers do not respect the New Testament, they declare Paul's letters of little value and when you point any of this out, they will tell you that you are not saved

Determining which are relevant t is tantamount to "dividing them up."

Also, why to most people run to just reading about the Law in the OT? Are they ot aware of the prophets, the writngs, and let us not forget the wisdom and propphecy also found in the law?

Always keep in mind for almost three hundred eyars the first believers learned of Jesus from the OT.......also bear in mind the NT and the OT are named by men, it is One Book,...

It is obvious you are obsessed with what you have to say, so continue, meanwhile I am praying for your comprehencion and for you. All blessings in Jesus Christ...j

are you OK?

no really...are you ok?

your personal comments are both silly and sadly typical of what you do

try to stick to the actual things people post.

your anger is getting the best of you

well that is not so. Paul's writings? John's? everyone elses?

again, refusing to acknowledge anything after the gospels has blinded you to the fact Christ fulfilled the law and Gentiles were never included

you assume so much without offering anything close to the facts.

for example:

why do you assume no one but you has read the OT?

the OT is an excellent basis for the new and I have always said that if someone really wants to understand the NT, they do need the foundation of the old

you cannot tell the truth here to save your life!

it is childish nonsense to state that believers had only the OT for 300 hundred years.

what an incredible denial of both scripture and history!

Please stop making personal attacks on people who post with whom you do not agree. God bless you to understand this is wrong. All blessings in Jesus Christ…..ja