Tax reform
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That is awful…….May God bless your finances always, amen.
I'm pretty sure you'll take this the wrong way but here goes anyway.
So much for the tax reform being nothing but a huge tax break for the wealthy as some have claimed. (that's coming from someone who has averaged well under $40,000 a year (most years in the low to mid 30's) for the last 20 years and has supported a disabled wife for the last 6 years on that income.)
To answer the question at hand though, I just looked at my 2017 and 2018 taxes and once I adjusted for self employment tax paid in 2018 that I didn't have to pay in 2017 (I went into business for myself mid-year 2018) even though my AGI was $10,000 higher in 2018 my total tax was considerably lower.
So much for the tax reform being nothing but a huge tax break for the wealthy as some have claimed. (that's coming from someone who has averaged well under $40,000 a year (most years in the low to mid 30's) for the last 20 years and has supported a disabled wife for the last 6 years on that income.)
To answer the question at hand though, I just looked at my 2017 and 2018 taxes and once I adjusted for self employment tax paid in 2018 that I didn't have to pay in 2017 (I went into business for myself mid-year 2018) even though my AGI was $10,000 higher in 2018 my total tax was considerably lower.
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All of this first began with the rush to the "Trickle Down" theory of RReagan. As long as people become very wealthy the poor would benefit by the leavings of the rich...never happened, never will. Then came along the "Greed is good" adaptation to business along with the .com bubble(s). Since the advent of these religions without God, the world we knew has disappeared. Unhappily today it seems sthe vast majority are just not aware it has changed butGod will point out the descrepancies soon enough.
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Actually the last time I looked that put us in the top 18% - and it scares the bejeebers out of me that 82% of the US population lives on less. I don't see how most people make it - and thus the incredible rates of debt and under-insurance among the general population.
And what part of this sounds like whining? All I asked is how the new law is affecting people. That's fact finding.
Perhaps it's not whining, but the need of most people to listen/read with the intent not to hear but to pick a fight.
And what part of this sounds like whining? All I asked is how the new law is affecting people. That's fact finding.
Perhaps it's not whining, but the need of most people to listen/read with the intent not to hear but to pick a fight.
What I took as whining was your statement of making six figures not getting you that far, my apologies if I took it the wrong way.
The house that I grew up in not far from you in SoCal was 1,200 sf which was the average middle class home size in the 70's now the average size home is in the ballpark of 2,600 sf. What has changed more than anything in 40 years is what people expect to acquire from a middle class income.
The house that I grew up in not far from you in SoCal was 1,200 sf which was the average middle class home size in the 70's now the average size home is in the ballpark of 2,600 sf. What has changed more than anything in 40 years is what people expect to acquire from a middle class income.
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You are not wrong. Ricky is constantly whining about OTHER people having more than him. This is from a thread a couple of days ago, where he claims he is starving:
PennEd said:
Yup. Let's divert attention away from the myth of starvation in America, and throw anything else that might stick to the wall! Same tactic as those who change the subject to say "ok, they aren't really starving, but their diet is bad so they're obese!"
Still waiting for you to show me starving people around us, so we can get them some food!
RICKY'S RESPONSE:
Aaaaand this would be one of them!
This is from the Global Rich List. You can plug in your income and determine just how wealthy you are in the World:
To get the most accurate placing possible, please include your net annual salary, plus any other money that you receive each year: benefits, pensions, even your student loan.
Show my results Enter annual net income: Ricky's household - $100,000
You’re in the top0.08%richest people in the world by income.
So 99.92 % of the humans on Earth are poorer than Ricky.
PennEd said:
Yup. Let's divert attention away from the myth of starvation in America, and throw anything else that might stick to the wall! Same tactic as those who change the subject to say "ok, they aren't really starving, but their diet is bad so they're obese!"
Still waiting for you to show me starving people around us, so we can get them some food!
RICKY'S RESPONSE:
Aaaaand this would be one of them!
This is from the Global Rich List. You can plug in your income and determine just how wealthy you are in the World:
To get the most accurate placing possible, please include your net annual salary, plus any other money that you receive each year: benefits, pensions, even your student loan.
Show my results Enter annual net income: Ricky's household - $100,000
You’re in the top0.08%richest people in the world by income.
So 99.92 % of the humans on Earth are poorer than Ricky.
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Something I know from family experience. In poverty families will and can only buy the foodwithin thier own budget. Poverty means leaving out all of the moreexpensive foods, those with more food value and less casrbs.
Being truly poor yet able to buy the bareminimum foods translates as lost f beans, potatoes, and bread, ad thses days I have seen even those foods go through the roof.
Many people are obese, as some say, because of this. A family memeber was pregnant and over 200 lbs. She was 5'2" . When that family's incomeimproved she went dow to 110 lbs. Neither was by conscious effort but both by necessity. Oh, that was my dear mother, andt he baby wasI, bornwith rickets……...
Being truly poor yet able to buy the bareminimum foods translates as lost f beans, potatoes, and bread, ad thses days I have seen even those foods go through the roof.
Many people are obese, as some say, because of this. A family memeber was pregnant and over 200 lbs. She was 5'2" . When that family's incomeimproved she went dow to 110 lbs. Neither was by conscious effort but both by necessity. Oh, that was my dear mother, andt he baby wasI, bornwith rickets……...
Ponder this... back in early 1980's I was a single Mom living off about $12,000.00 a year when I finished working in 2013 my income had grown to the $45,000.00 area. I wasn't on welfare and we didn't starve...go figure... So 6 figures a year is rich to me and if I could live off the little bit of money I had back in the 80's I'd be swimming in cash with your salary today....
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