Mystery Babylon

What would be the wealthiest city in this day and age Im wondering. The one thats the most influential and the one where its ok to sin and blaspheme God.

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Going back to mystery Babylon...the topic of this thread.

What would be the wealthiest city in this day and age Im wondering. The one thats the most influential and the one where its ok to sin and blaspheme God.

Full of names of blasphemy, what would those be I wonder.

Sodom and egypt...why was that name given to Jerusalem...spiritually.

Would Babylon be the spiritual name also given to Jerusalem?

Ok i just wonder why in revelation John doesnt just say...its Rome.
He writes to all the other churches around the mediterranean mentioning them by name.

Also the seven mountains can anyone name them. I mean I do understand that it was the Romans who were the ones that actually crucified Jesus. Even though it was the jews that betrayed him and wanted him dead. It was the Romans who carried it out.

Ok. I dont recall the geography of Rome if anyone can name the seven mountains that might help.
If its Jerusalem what seven mountains does Jerusalem sit on?

Eternally grateful your logic doesnt make any sense I know you trying to argue it to fit in with your rapture theory, but you miss so many things.

Also, you claim nothing happened after the death of Christ well actually thats not true Jesus was resurrected! That is basic fact you completely ignore.

Come now do you expect any of us to believe Jesus did not confirm the covenant, with his own blood, that we celebrate with communicion each time we gather?

Do you expect any of us to believe that someone else aside from Jesus confirms this covenant, and then breaks it?

You are grasping at straws. You are making up another covenant out of your own imagination.

Plus, Jesus is the King of Israel..he came for Israel first. He is also a light for the gentiles but its clear in the Bible he came for jews As he himself was from Judah...and bring salvation to israel first. He is the seed of abraham.

The old abrahamic convenat was renewed theough Jesus Christ. Recall back in Genesis how abraham offered various animals and cut them in half and God walked through them. JEsus blood was given when he was crucified to renew THIS convenant. The promises and blessings now extend through Jesus and that now includes gentiles.

concerning Jerusalem
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord
was crucified.
Revelation 11:8

Going back to mystery Babylon...the topic of this thread.

What would be the wealthiest city in this day and age Im wondering. The one thats the most influential and the one where its ok to sin and blaspheme God.

Full of names of blasphemy, what would those be I wonder.

Sodom and egypt...why was that name given to Jerusalem...spiritually.
Would Babylon be the spiritual name also given to Jerusalem? We do know Jeruslaem was taken over by Babylonians in the past. The jews were taken captive...the psalmist lamented by the rivers of Babylon, where we sat down, yea we wept, when we remembered Zion. It wasnt a place that they wanted to go.

Even though it may have had beautiful hanging gardens and all sorts of luxury goods. It wasnt home.

Ok i just wonder why in revelation John doesnt just say...its Rome.
He writes to all the other churches around the mediterranean mentioning them by name.

Also the seven mountains can anyone name them. I mean I do understand that it was the Romans who were the ones that actually crucified Jesus. Even though it was the jews that betrayed him and wanted him dead. It was the Romans who carried it out.

THE SEVEN HILLS OF JERUSALEM

1 Mount Scopus

2 Nob

3 Mount of Corruption also known as Mount of Offence

4 The South Summit the original Mount Zion between the the Kedron and Tyropoeon Valleys

5 The Ophel Mount

6 The Rock near the Antonia Fortress

7 The New Mount Zion

Revelation is full of symbols that have their origins in the OT. Babylon is a symbol of apostate Jerusalem which is called a Whore and an Adulteress a number of times in the Prophets. Also like Babylon it was the centre of trade and wealth during the reign of Solomon

Lol. This is the fiunniest thing I ever heard. I noever once said anythign about any rapture theory. Or trying to defend one.

what you just proved is your trying to argue to fit your belief and what you have heard others say people like me believe and not the words I say by themselves.

In doing so, you will continue to fail. And continue to show your lack of openness.




See. You just proved my case. I never said nothing happened. In fact i said many things happened.

Dude, give it up. If your not going to listen to anyone, your going to continue to put your foot in your mouth.




Lol. Yep. As daniel was told in Daniel 9, once the temple is left in ruins, it will continue to be that way UNTIL a certain time,

Dan 9: 26:
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

Which I already stated, so thank you for helping me prove my case. That the city and sanctuary is till desolate.



Come now. Do you really expect people to beliebve Jesus only confirmed a 1 week covenant?

Dan 9: 27: 27 Then he shall confirm a [k]covenant with many for one week;

You keep hurting your own theories man, You should stop.



Your talking about the wrong covenant man. Once again, You need to stop. Your hurting your own debate. Jdsus did not confirm a coveant for 1 week. He confirmed an ETERNAL covenant with his blood.




Your graspomg at straws, your trying to make a 1 week covenant and turn it into an eternal covenant. You can not even read what was said, and see it for what it is.



This has nothign to do with daniel 9

Again, Go back, READ and come talk to me. Or continue to make yourself look bad by

1. Not even knowing what I am saying
2. Trying to turn a 1 week covenant into an eternal one
3. Saying things which SUPPORT my view, not hurt my view.

The choice is yours. I will welcome if you continue to stay on this path. It just helps my case.

No the choice is your because you have no case. You have just spewed a lot of nonsesne that makes no sense and expect everyone to agree with your view. Well most people dont and were all pretty au fait with the Bible.

Why because you fail to explain clearly and make out that when Jesus died nothing happened. And that we should look for someone else and the making of another, unrelated convenant. So silly!


Do you not understand the purpose of the covenant? I have just explained in my previous posts.

Daniel was prohesying about Jesus. Not anyone else.
What desolations are determined? God pouring out the plagues etc and then new heaven and earthto come.
People of the prince that shall come destory the city and the sanctuary...its talking about the gentiles. Eleswhere in the Bible it does say Jerusalem will be trodden down by the gentiles. Has the sacrifice and oblation ceased?

Yes. When?
When Jesus gave his life it was one for all. Are there people still sacrificing at the temple in Jerusalem now? Um go have a look. Is there anyone? Is there even a temple there to go inside? Noooooo.

I dont reckon rome is that influential cos nobody here buys anything made in Italy. Plus as far as I know my country doesnt do any trade or exports to Italy, where Rome is.

And the pope isnt that influential, its only to catholics. Most of the christians I know arent catholics.

But thats just my opinon.

I know of some catholics that would fly to the Vatican just to get blessed by the Pope, but thats catholics -they do that sort of thing. The pope really has no bearing on most non catholic peoples everyday lives.

Ok i just wonder why in revelation John doesnt just say...its Rome.