So the seal was broken then
1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,
Some will depart from the faith.
Absolutely not.😏
1 John 2:19
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
you should check out this
maybe it can help you understand
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John 15
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
there are two sorts of brances here
branches that bare fruit
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every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit"
"He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit"
and branches void of any fruit
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"If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned"
"As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself"
this whole thing is largely an example of the power of CHRIST in His own
compared to the lack of power in fakers
this was said after judas already betrayed Jesus and was said to make a point before the conclusion of the betrayal of judas
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this is about two separate sorts of men/women who claim to be in Him and are part of the congregation
nothing to do with how to
earn or keep salvation
(it is a gift by grace through faith)
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