Has the second coming occurred already?

When he comes there won't be any doubt. The whole world will witness it.

I think Preterists have that absurd notion that we are currently in the millennial reign.
1000 years of peace despite 2 world wars, The Armenian genocide, Bubonic plague, Islamic terrorism, Pol Pot, Idi Amin etc etc.

Look to everyone here I am sorry if I have hurt any feelings with the way I word things, but all feelings aside not 1 person in here is dealing with the issue I'm bringing up. You are ALL just saying "your mean, offensive, mouthy, a heretic, and not one of you has answered a thing about the "3rd temple dilemma". Please if my view that everyone here seems to HATE, names heresy, and are willing to strait up transgress Jesus commands to us all in emotional floods, if it is so stupid, so ridiculous, then please please please be the means God uses to lead me to the truth. Help me work through this "3rd temple dilemma" that in my mind makes ANY future temple illogical, pointless, and completely backwards.

Here is my problem laid out as clearly as I can put it.
1. I believe scripture is close, more specifically that God will reveal nothing new, His word is in the bible. We are told clearly that His word will not be added to.
2. I believe that everything the temple was pointing to has been fulfilled, everything.
3. I believe that the Abomination of Desolation spoken of in Daniel and Revelation takes place in Gods temple.
4. I believe that in order for there to be a "God'd temple", that God has to command it built. I believe that a group of men getting together and building a building and calling it gods temple dose not make it so.
5. I do not believe a temple made by men is what is spoken of concerning the A. of D., I believe that HAS to be in God's temple like it says
6. I do not believe anywhere in scripture God commands us to build another temple, a 3rd temple. I am willing to be shown if I missed it.

So can you see my problem with the idea that all this stuff is coming, when Jesus Himself was very specific about the time frame of these things ALL happening within a generation, and what do you know within a generation Gods temple was pulled down brick by brick in that time frame. Yet I'm the stupid one with ideas so far fetched as to deserve to face condemnation from the rest of the body, seemingly.
I'd say this is a pretty glaring problem for the idea of another temple at all, and why? Because my King said "It is finished!" Did He not? So instead of just calling me mean, saying I'm attacking, or calling me a mouthy hypocrite, please some body stand firm on your belief and help me through this. Thank you.

Look to everyone here I am sorry if I have hurt any feelings with the way I word things, but all feelings aside not 1 person in here is dealing with the issue I'm bringing up. You are ALL just saying "your mean, offensive, mouthy, a heretic, and not one of you has answered a thing about the "3rd temple dilemma". Please if my view that everyone here seems to HATE, names heresy, and are willing to strait up transgress Jesus commands to us all in emotional floods, if it is so stupid, so ridiculous, then please please please be the means God uses to lead me to the truth. Help me work through this "3rd temple dilemma" that in my mind makes ANY future temple illogical, pointless, and completely backwards.

Here is my problem laid out as clearly as I can put it.
1. I believe scripture is close, more specifically that God will reveal nothing new, His word is in the bible. We are told clearly that His word will not be added to.
2. I believe that everything the temple was pointing to has been fulfilled, everything.
3. I believe that the Abomination of Desolation spoken of in Daniel and Revelation takes place in Gods temple.
4. I believe that in order for there to be a "God'd temple", that God has to command it built. I believe that a group of men getting together and building a building and calling it gods temple dose not make it so.
5. I do not believe a temple made by men is what is spoken of concerning the A. of D., I believe that HAS to be in God's temple like it says
6. I do not believe anywhere in scripture God commands us to build another temple, a 3rd temple. I am willing to be shown if I missed it.

So can you see my problem with the idea that all this stuff is coming, when Jesus Himself was very specific about the time frame of these things ALL happening within a generation, and what do you know within a generation Gods temple was pulled down brick by brick in that time frame. Yet I'm the stupid one with ideas so far fetched as to deserve to face condemnation from the rest of the body, seemingly.
I'd say this is a pretty glaring problem for the idea of another temple at all, and why? Because my King said "It is finished!" Did He not? So instead of just calling me mean, saying I'm attacking, or calling me a mouthy hypocrite, please some body stand firm on your belief and help me through this. Thank you.

Jesus said clearly, the world would behold him no more. I'm other words, he would never set foot on the earth again. Remember Jesus death paidva random for what Adam and Eve lost. Perfect life on paradise earth. How could he return to the earth ? It wouldn't make sense for the random sacrifice he paid.

Jesus said clearly, the world would behold him no more. I'm other words, he would never set foot on the earth again. Remember Jesus death paidva random for what Adam and Eve lost. Perfect life on paradise earth. How could he return to the earth ? It wouldn't make sense for the random sacrifice he paid.

Jesus said clearly, the world would behold him no more. I'm other words, he would never set foot on the earth again. Remember Jesus death paidva random for what Adam and Eve lost. Perfect life on paradise earth. How could he return to the earth ? It wouldn't make sense for the random sacrifice he paid.

God says clearly Jesus would return, the holy mountain wold split in two. Every eye shall see him. He will rule with a rod of Iron. And families will be punished who do not come to jerusalem once a year

No literal eye. The eye of faith . Like a flash of lighting from the east to the west. . like a thief in the night .

The proper prescription must be applies so that we can watch for Him like Noah. he still came as a thief in the night. God does not number the last days. they are signified by the metaphor thousand years in that parable.

If Jesus said so clearly, you should be able to provide some scriptural support.

He did say to Jerusalem "For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”
Math 23:39

Until........... indicates he will return under the right circumstances.

Look to everyone here I am sorry if I have hurt any feelings with the way I word things, but all feelings aside not 1 person in here is dealing with the issue I'm bringing up. You are ALL just saying "your mean, offensive, mouthy, a heretic, and not one of you has answered a thing about the "3rd temple dilemma". Please if my view that everyone here seems to HATE, names heresy, and are willing to strait up transgress Jesus commands to us all in emotional floods, if it is so stupid, so ridiculous, then please please please be the means God uses to lead me to the truth. Help me work through this "3rd temple dilemma" that in my mind makes ANY future temple illogical, pointless, and completely backwards.

Here is my problem laid out as clearly as I can put it.
1. I believe scripture is close, more specifically that God will reveal nothing new, His word is in the bible. We are told clearly that His word will not be added to.
2. I believe that everything the temple was pointing to has been fulfilled, everything.
3. I believe that the Abomination of Desolation spoken of in Daniel and Revelation takes place in Gods temple.
4. I believe that in order for there to be a "God'd temple", that God has to command it built. I believe that a group of men getting together and building a building and calling it gods temple dose not make it so.
5. I do not believe a temple made by men is what is spoken of concerning the A. of D., I believe that HAS to be in God's temple like it says
6. I do not believe anywhere in scripture God commands us to build another temple, a 3rd temple. I am willing to be shown if I missed it.

So can you see my problem with the idea that all this stuff is coming, when Jesus Himself was very specific about the time frame of these things ALL happening within a generation, and what do you know within a generation Gods temple was pulled down brick by brick in that time frame. Yet I'm the stupid one with ideas so far fetched as to deserve to face condemnation from the rest of the body, seemingly.
I'd say this is a pretty glaring problem for the idea of another temple at all, and why? Because my King said "It is finished!" Did He not? So instead of just calling me mean, saying I'm attacking, or calling me a mouthy hypocrite, please some body stand firm on your belief and help me through this. Thank you.

The guy is twisting scripture to fit his view.

He says where he is speculating or using conjecture.
All you did was twist his teaching format.
I know of no other teacher digging as in depth as missler.
Chuck tells his audience over and over "do your own research. My talks are to inspire your own study"

I'm starting to see a very disturbing pattern here, you do realize you just sent me to a fallible man for an answer to Gods truth. (please know for the record that I LOVE Chuck and he is so sharp, I'm not bashing him at all) I am really seeing that no matter how I ask no one will even engage on this issue of the 3rd temple. I truthfully don't care what "Chuck Missler" says, I care what Jesus says and I care even more about what He meant in truth, and just stomping your feet and folding your arms while declaring "_______ is a heresy" is pointless, but then pointing me to a man for answers just baffles me. Why can't we discuss and work through these things? Okay I get it you don't believe the same thing I do, so you just say "heresy" and turn away? Okay so we had a thousands of years delay between salvation and the judgement and end of the age, okay here we are. Do you believe the Abomination of Desolation has to take place in God true temple?
Also what do you believe about scripture? Do you believe that His word is complete and there is to be none added to it? Please don't just brush these things off as if they are nothing. If your belief is the truth, then stand on it and teach me where I'm wrong, don't just call me a heretic and run to leave me on a path of deception.

To me It is the same.

In thesalonians Paul start with verse 1.

That problem about rapture that Paul address or explain.

He not change topic in verse 3.

Verse 1 about rapture, why verse 3 change something else?

For Example

1. Corona virus start from Wulan China

2. The doctor has t been found the cure

3. More than thausand death.

Is verse 3 mean more than thausand death from car accident
No, ITS from corona virus, the topic is corona virus, It is not normal say something else without Clear explanation.

If I want to change the topic, I Will say, now we talk about car accident, than more explanation.

Any way, What part of 2 thes verse 1 say rapture happen before tribulation?

2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

Not in this sentence say rapture before tribulation.

This verse is only title or topic that Paul Will address.

So you believe the man If sin or antichrist is already reign from the temple for 7 years or 3 1/2 years?
When was people take the mark of the beast happen?

Do you believe after great tribulation Will be 1000 years kingdom?

The spiritualizing and historical ascribing of the judgements dynamics are too much to overcome.
Historicist view is not plausable

I believe there will be a literal Temple, where the anti christ will declare himself god. But I also believe that human beings themselves are the Temple of God.

So those receiving the mark of the beast will be in effect allowing the antichrist to sit on the throne of every human heart that accepts it.

So you won't answer my question either? Unbelievable. To answer your question, yes I do believe that happen. I can get really into it tell you why I believe this happen, who I think it was, what historical documents and accounts seem to support it, but the whole point of that post was to see if you could stand on what you believe and explain to me how a 3rd temple could be, but like everyone else on the futurist side all you can do is point fingers. So sad, none of you can even explain to me what you believe

Jesus said clearly, the world would behold him no more. I'm other words, he would never set foot on the earth again. Remember Jesus death paidva random for what Adam and Eve lost. Perfect life on paradise earth. How could he return to the earth ? It wouldn't make sense for the random sacrifice he paid.

Jesus said clearly, the world would behold him no more.