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VCO

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Dr. John Nelson Darby a Heretic – Father of Pretrib/Dispensational Teaching Denied Jesus’ Atonement!


Do you also deny Jesus' Atonement?

Look how EXERCISED you get. I have never read a single thing published by him. I came to my Pre-Trib beliefs, strictly by what Scripture actually says. So you wasted your GIANT print on me.
 

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biker said:
Dr. John Nelson Darby a Heretic – Father of Pretrib/Dispensational Teaching Denied Jesus’ Atonement!
Do you also deny Jesus' Atonement?


You do not have to go to the WEDDING if you don't want to.
My Bible says Only Those who are READY, get the SHOUT to go
to the WEDDING. My Invite is already IN MY HEART.
I believe in KEEPING ready for my Bridegroom.

Matthew 25:13 (NCV)
13 So always be ready, because you don’t know the day or the hour the Son of Man will come.

You are not one of these are you ? ? ?

2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”
 
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Look how EXERCISED you get. I have never read a single thing published by him. I came to my Pre-Trib beliefs, strictly by what Scripture actually says. So you wasted your GIANT print on me.

Actually, that was the Headline to the article I posted. It was already bigger. I did not expect it to be as big as it ended up being.
 
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biker said:
Dr. John Nelson Darby a Heretic – Father of Pretrib/Dispensational Teaching Denied Jesus’ Atonement!
Do you also deny Jesus' Atonement?



You do not have to go to the WEDDING if you don't want to.
My Bible says Only Those who are READY, get the SHOUT to go
to the WEDDING. My Invite is already IN MY HEART.
I believe in KEEPING ready for my Bridegroom.

Matthew 25:13 (NCV)
13 So always be ready, because you don’t know the day or the hour the Son of Man will come.

You are not one of these are you ? ? ?

2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”


Nope, I am a practicalist. If Paul in Corinthians claims we remain until the "Last Trump," it's futile trying to think he meant something different in Thessalonians! Paul clearly was not "Double Minded nor unstable" in his writings.
 

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biker said:
Dr. John Nelson Darby a Heretic – Father of Pretrib/Dispensational Teaching Denied Jesus’ Atonement!
Do you also deny Jesus' Atonement?



You do not have to go to the WEDDING if you don't want to.
My Bible says Only Those who are READY, get the SHOUT to go
to the WEDDING. My Invite is already IN MY HEART.
I believe in KEEPING ready for my Bridegroom.

Matthew 25:13 (NCV)
13 So always be ready, because you don’t know the day or the hour the Son of Man will come.

You are not one of these are you ? ? ?

2 Peter 3:3-4 (HCSB)
3 First, be aware of this: Scoffers will come in the last days to scoff, living according to their own desires,
4 saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? Ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they have been since the beginning of creation.”
Christ is here reigning with the believers. We are the temple. He will put and on the last day the end of time.

The thousand years according to the signified language of Revelation represents a unknown . The work of rightly dividing the parable must be performed.

It would seem many miss or ignore the prescriptions needed to rightly divide. If we literalize the parables as foundation of the teaching then we can invent any kind of "things to come" .

Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
 

cv5

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Christ is here reigning with the believers. We are the temple. He will put and on the last day the end of time.

The thousand years according to the signified language of Revelation represents a unknown . The work of rightly dividing the parable must be performed.

It would seem many miss or ignore the prescriptions needed to rightly divide. If we literalize the parables as foundation of the teaching then we can invent any kind of "things to come" .

Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
Replace the word literalize with allegorize.
 

VCO

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Actually, that was the Headline to the article I posted. It was already bigger. I did not expect it to be as big as it ended up being.
And still you did not resize it.
 
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I came on here expecting a discussion of the third temple and what I found was a pre-trib debate.
Talk about misleading titles!
 

cv5

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I came on here expecting a discussion of the third temple and what I found was a pre-trib debate.
Talk about misleading titles!
Lol. Don't worry you'll get used to it!
 

VCO

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Nope, I am a practicalist. If Paul in Corinthians claims we remain until the "Last Trump," it's futile trying to think he meant something different in Thessalonians! Paul clearly was not "Double Minded nor unstable" in his writings.

And that has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAST TRUMPET JUDGEMENT OF REVELATION.

There are TWO FIELDS of Thought, that Both, has noting to do with the Last Trumpet Judgement.
Hear is my logical favorite, that it is the fulfillment of what is known as the FEAST OF TRUMPETS: The trumpet Call has been known as the LAST TRUMP for over 2000 years.




This trumpet Call fills my heart with Joy, from the first time that Heard it blown, and even now I was crying listening to it.



IN THE SECOND Possibility It is said it is the LAST of blast in the end times, from the SILVER TRUMPET used to CALL THE BELIEVERS TOGETHER. It has some merit, but I don't think so.

Numbers 10:1-10 (HCSB)
1 The LORD spoke to Moses:
2 “Make two trumpets of hammered silver to summon the community and have the camps set out.
3 When both are sounded in long blasts, the entire community is to gather before you at the entrance to the tent of meeting.
4 However, if one is sounded, only the leaders, the heads of Israel’s clans, are to gather before you.
5 “When you sound short blasts, the camps pitched on the east are to set out.
6 When you sound short blasts a second time, the camps pitched on the south are to set out. Short blasts are to be sounded for them to set out.
7 When calling the assembly together, you are to sound long blasts, not short ones.
8 The sons of Aaron, the priests, are to sound the trumpets. Your use of these is a permanent statute throughout your generations.
9 “When you enter into battle in your land against an adversary who is attacking you, sound short blasts on the trumpets, and you will be remembered before the LORD your God and be delivered from your enemies.
10 You are to sound the trumpets over your burnt offerings and your fellowship sacrifices and on your joyous occasions, your appointed festivals, and the beginning of each of your months. They will serve as a reminder for you before your God: I am Yahweh your God.”
 

VCO

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Sorry, it did not cross my mind.
No, you did not offend me, because I am OLD SCHOOL, I me I graduated High School in 1967, and BACK THEN it was only for EMPHASIS.

I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO GO BY FACE BOOK RULES. It is only for EMPHASIS instead LIKE FACE BOOK SAYS IT IS SHOUTING. RIDICULOUS Face Book Rules, just another REASON I am extremely glad I never signed up for FACE BOOK ACCOUNT.
 

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I came on here expecting a discussion of the third temple and what I found was a pre-trib debate.
Talk about misleading titles!
Hi,
It gets difficult to stay on topic because someone comes along periodically with their Jew-hating Supersessionist doctrine to stop the flow of conversation.
 
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Replace the word literalize with allegorize.

That would be turning things upside down taking away the understanding of the Potter. . The opening statement in the Book of Revelation gives us the proper tools for rightly dividing the parables as the signified understanding .

Will you obey it and do what it says and rightly divide the signified tongue of God? Or just focus on the historical value and lose the gospel understanding, The hidden manna spoken of in chapter 2 .

Not one reason a person world take the allegorical gospel understanding and literalize it. The commandment or law of faith is without parable Christ spoke not. Not the other way around. . upside down .

Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:


Using the temporal things like time, keys, chains, bottom less pits, serpents , souls with no heads in order to give the eternal signified understanding in the parable .

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Are eternal, not a thousand years, no literal key or chain .

No mixing of the two today (The gospel) no sabbath rest, today or under the sun .

Hebrews 4 King James Version (KJV) Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
 

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I came on here expecting a discussion of the third temple and what I found was a pre-trib debate.
Talk about misleading titles!
Apparently, the current point of contention has to do with the size of a headline in an article. I guess that size matters.
 

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No, you did not offend me, because I am OLD SCHOOL, I me I graduated High School in 1967, and BACK THEN it was only for EMPHASIS.

I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO GO BY FACE BOOK RULES. It is only for EMPHASIS instead LIKE FACE BOOK SAYS IT IS SHOUTING. RIDICULOUS Face Book Rules, just another REASON I am extremely glad I never signed up for FACE BOOK ACCOUNT.
I never signed up for a Facebook account either. The etiquette about ALL CAPs is just politically correct nonsense. The current politically correct term is 'social distancing' and the etiquette part is wearing a face mask. Now, if you wear a face shield too and self-quarintine for the rest of your life you are some kind of hero. Nonsense.
 

VCO

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Nope, I am a practicalist. If Paul in Corinthians claims we remain until the "Last Trump," it's futile trying to think he meant something different in Thessalonians! Paul clearly was not "Double Minded nor unstable" in his writings.
Paul was DEAD long before John penned the WORDS of REVELATION.