Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

In keeping Romans chapter five in context the "many" and "all" are interchangeable with the "we" "our" "us" Verse 11, And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. "Many". that has received the atonement. "all men" that have received the atonement.

And I, also, have posted more than enough scriptural truths that do not harmonize with your scripture interpretations, and all yo...........

I started to give you some of your own medicine with the bad words, but I decided not to stoop to your level.

It does not state "all men that have received the atonement"
that is contextually dishonest.
Many and all are not interchangeable.

No, you have not given any scriptural proof of anything....skewed verses, denied context, definition changes etc. do not equal scriptural proof of anything.......what it does prove is contextual dishonesty and an unwillingness to admit error out of pride!

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

While "world" should be read in context, there is nothing in the verse that would require one to read it as "World of the Elect" unless one has pre-suppositions that need to be fitted into the verse.

In context it means exactly that the "world"

The comparison is made to the Israelite being told to look at the bronze snake. (John 3: 14-16)

The invitation went to all and those that looked lived.
The "world" >>>> all sinners are given the invitation... by analogy.

So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived. (Numbers 21)

Yeah we have all been bitten by sin

No limited atonement here.

Amen....Jim Jones got 909 people at "Jonestown" to drink cyanide laced kool aid under the banner of "Revolutionary Suicide" and how many people worship Rev. Moon......cults appeal to people because they tell them and reinforce some superiority complex....Look at the SS and Waffen SS under Hitler and Himler......that is what makes cults so dangerous....they appeal to the flesh, brain wash, coddle, constantly skew history or facts and lead every one of their converts to their own demise in the end..........and the inference is clear when Calvinism is viewed under the microscope and based upon all evidences.....!! A modern version of Phariseeism is all that it is!

No, you have not given any scriptural proof of anything....skewed verses, denied context, definition changes etc. do not equal scriptural proof of anything.......what it does prove is contextual dishonesty and an unwillingness to admit error out of pride!

No, you have not given any scriptural proof of anything....skewed verses, denied context, definition changes etc. do not equal scriptural proof of anything.......what it does prove is contextual dishonesty and an unwillingness to admit error out of pride!

Not so much a salvation issue more how can we hear God not seen. The hearing of His faith working in. He does all the work giving us ears to understand him not seen. . the beginning of the good work of salvation in us. Salvation working in us gives us his confidence as a living hope that he will continue to work with us all the way to the end.

Philipians 6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

When we sin its not . . I have to be born-again for the umpteenth time. He either does all the work in us or none .

If you would read that event more carefully, you would find that these people that were bitten by the snakes were regenerated children of God, being chastised for disobedience. The same is the case of those of us who look to Christ lifted up on the cross.

Amen....Jim Jones got 909 people at "Jonestown" to drink cyanide laced kool aid under the banner of "Revolutionary Suicide" and how many people worship Rev. Moon......cults appeal to people because they tell them and reinforce some superiority complex....Look at the SS and Waffen SS under Hitler and Himler......that is what makes cults so dangerous....they appeal to the flesh, brain wash, coddle, constantly skew history or facts and lead every one of their converts to their own demise in the end..........and the inference is clear when Calvinism is viewed under the microscope and based upon all evidences.....!! A modern version of Phariseeism is all that it is!

The proof is in the word "as many" . Thye alone have received the power to believe. Dead men have no faith. not little none.

If we offer dead works (no faith) it becomes born and again, again and again every time one sins. Exposing Christ to public shame who only offered one demonstration.

John 1:12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.

His faith or power works towards us, in us strengthening us to confess with our mouths . It as a work is not of our own self but of His "labor of love" again called a "work of His faith"

Hebrews 6 King James Version (KJV) Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance "from" dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Dead works dead faith .living works living faith .faith and works they cannot be separated and expect something to move .

No will, no works .No work, no will.

Philiians 2: 13-14 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

Not a salvation issue. More how can we hear God. . having no faith to begin with?

Believe . . .give glory to God .He promise us as the better things that accompany salvation .He will not forget the good works we offer towards his name as he makes the burden lighter. .

Believe without murmuring and accusing. Mr. Calvin is dead.

Perhaps if you opened a bible and tried to understand it, you would not post such defective ideas with no scriptural support.

23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.

When a person ignores the commandment in James 2 not to have the unseen faith of Christ in respect to man seen its easy to usurp the authority of our unseen God and blaspheme his Holy name . Phariseeism . . trusting in what they eye see (self) is the doctrine of self edification rather than giving glory to God unseen they accredit the faith to their own self person choice .Like that of Jim Jones as in don't look to the scriptures' do give faith .Look at me.

James 2:1 King James Version (KJV) My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.

James 2:7 King James Version (KJV)Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?

The faith it requires to believe God is not of us, we had none not little before he empowered us . Doing the will of the father is the believers free will working in them .Freely he gave with no cost on our behalf. Freely we have (past tense)

Its in the mail box. (faith sent)

God is an equal opportunist. How some people argue against this is astonishing.

Perhaps if you understood contextual honesty you would not have used that verse to try and support a false ideology!

But hey, maybe the unknown god spoken of at Mars hill was a false god that made man A for heaven and man B thru Z for hell!

COME LET US REASON TOGETHER......!!!!

I have not seen you make any scriptural case. I do not think you can.
I do not believe you know the God you oppose.Like those in Athens, he is unknown to you.

This has absolutely nothing to do with a false ideology from a man, then ultimately named after a flower by proselytes and then being peddled by men and women as gospel truth.

Calvinism is false.

God would have ALL MEN BE SAVED and come to the KNOWLEDGE of the truth.......Not just the hyper religious followers of Calvin and the man made gospel equated to a Tulip!!!