The Babies of God

. We honor our parents because we love them . We don’t honor them in order to love them .

But that’s just what I got from the original discussion and his post you quoted from there . Sometimes I think we say things others don’t understand how we’re saying it rather than what they are saying is false we have different ways of articulating our thoughts

Yep. We need to get "skilful" in Righteousness of God. Then we are "Teachers". Or one of the Five Fold Ministries. This is how they get to be that. No college diploma or university degrees can give this. Only God does it by Revelation and Creation through that Revelation His Righteouness in His Children by The Word in Jesus. Then we are not "Babies" anymore. And then we don't perceive our "group" vs other "groups" anymore. Then we just see "Babies" and "Teachers". And when we Live Righteousness then we are Pastors. And not Babies anymore. And thus the True Pastors and Teachers and Evangelists and Prophets and Apostles manifests now by the Creation through the Word. And not by the intellectual qualification from an institute.

And here you prove what i just said. The Babies like their "strife". Even if they "agree". Because of being Babies.

We love our parents and call them mom or dad. Or mommy or daddy. And i don't think they will be very happy with us honoring them with the title of mr. or mrs. Even if they have some other title like doctor it is still inferior to love that we have for them and which is expressed by mommy and daddy.

Same with God. Nothing can come to calling Him our Dad. Even Daddy. As that is what "Abba Father" tries to convey to us. And in this regard He moved away from the title God to that of Father or Dad or Daddy.

in this regard He said we should enter Love for one another as Brothers and Sisters. And step away from the honor in "pastor" or "bishop" or "pope" or whatever. Which the humans of course enjoy so much. To be "more" than their Brothers and Sisters and in the end lose Love of God. And is stuck with "honor" in human existence.

Mat. 23
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.




When we are Living God's Live it is very difficult to explain what we experience. But we do our Best and God will do the Rest.

I got one simple question for you, if you are willing to answer?

Who is Jesus to you ?

I would say this, it was God who said to "Honor your mother and father" the is the first Commandment with Promise. That your life will be long upon the land. Matthew 19:19.

The Idea one has to work to honor the person, speaks it is not in your heart to do so, and you should not do it.

"New born believers"? Sure? And how do you know this?





I agree. But not with the word, new, that you are inserting here in this text.





Again your "inserted words".



You think Paul "neglected" this? While it happens while speaking the first time?

Acts 10
44 ¶While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.







Seems Paul adequately did this?

1 Cor. 14
26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.



You have any verse for this?



Sure. They became heirs to everything. I totally agree. But they were still mere "carnal Babies. And not much. Stuck in Baby Life. While the Perfect Life of God was given them.



Nope. I never "belittled his Children. I spoke against the evil spirit of strife that kept them from growing up. And is still keeping God's Babies in their "carnal lives" as Babies. Not knowing much and not being much. Although everything of God was given them. Perfectly. Just their own sin of enjoying their evil spirit of strife. Enjoying being in their certain group and keeping the division alive. And of course they have now their "bosses" asisting them. Because of enjoying their "slaves" working for them. Telling everyone that their particular group is the correct one. And of course their money the "slaves" are giving them.

Slaves paying to be slaves. Such a foolish existence. Because of the evil spirit that closed their eyes. This is no "new born believers". This is "old born believers" sinning. Just as they still are today.

And you judging me as speaking by the evil spirit of "belittling" is obviously part of that life. Judging me totally wrongly. Acting as if you can judge. But not having the Anointing from God yet makes you also a "carnal Baby" of God. Because this is "hypocrisy".
Mat. 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

You were given everything. But you are so "little" Not knowing much and not being much. And you could have been "Everything".

We love our parents and call them mom or dad. Or mommy or daddy. And i don't think they will be very happy with us honoring them with the title of mr. or mrs. Even if they have some other title like doctor it is still inferior to love that we have for them and which is expressed by mommy and daddy.

Same with God. Nothing can come to calling Him our Dad. Even Daddy. As that is what "Abba Father" tries to convey to us. And in this regard He moved away from the title God to that of Father or Dad or Daddy.

in this regard He said we should enter Love for one another as Brothers and Sisters. And step away from the honor in "pastor" or "bishop" or "pope" or whatever. Which the humans of course enjoy so much. To be "more" than their Brothers and Sisters and in the end lose Love of God. And is stuck with "honor" in human existence.

Mat. 23
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.




When we are Living God's Live it is very difficult to explain what we experience. But we do our Best and God will do the Rest.

We just have our sins and physical existence washed every day.

God is laughing at evil. When it is from His Children they perceive the Sword of God. But as Discipline in Love. Opening new Growth to them. Those that are not His Children perceive the Judgment of a Righteous God.

. We honor our parents because we love them . We don’t honor them in order to love them .

I think he’s saying we needed the commandment honor before we possessed Christ's love but when you have his love that is imparted through the gospel , that becomes the source

what he’s saying I sort of think is in this realm of thought

“Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment,

it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭13:8-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if I have to work to honor someone it’s not coming from love where we need to be centered is what I gathered after I read what he was saying

But that’s just what I got from the original discussion and his post you quoted from there . Sometimes I think we say things others don’t understand how we’re saying it rather than what they are saying is false we have different ways of articulating our thoughts

I got one simple question for you, if you are willing to answer?

Who is Jesus to you ?

to be a teacher one must be teachable.

Having knowledge doesn't make one a teacher no more than flying on a plane makes one a pilot.

It is a Gifting even to the church FROM the HOLY Spirit as 1cor chapter 12 states, not self appointed.

You did not answer my question Who is Jesus to you ?

i would say He holds death in derision when we find it present in our flesh. the context of the opening stanzas of Psalm 2 is an antichrist type; sin that dwells in our flesh is crucified to us and to Him. He's redeeming us, confirming us to His likeness - like a potter removing excess clay and shaping us with His hands, dipped in water, casting it into a water barrel to dissolve and be reformed.
remember Paul talking to the Corinthians told them to "be unleavened, as (they) really are" -- the leaven that's removed isn't "us" it's the alien thing dwelling in us, alien to us because we are become a new creation, just as the dross removed from the silver is no part of the finished vessel.

so God is not holding His children in derision. i think that view is antithetical to the gospel. He holds the vanity of Satan/antichrist in derision; the sin at work in the old man, which He condemned in the flesh. if we truly 'know no one anymore after the flesh' then we should not be contemptuous, but gentle, towards 'the weaker brother' and we should not blaspheme God's faithfulness to complete the work He began.

((IMO))

the axe that flies at me is beautiful; His pruning is everlasting lovingkindness.

All you are doing is making accusations and these accusations are very vague, and not very clear in what it is you really really want to say.

And of course here is the classic get of jail card.




Do you maybe think people want to know what it is you are actually really trying to say. As I said before not being clear is a sign of dishonesty especially over so many posts.

It's a simple question, warranting a simple answer: either "Yes" or "No". I'll take it as the latter.

If you think God is going to teach you how to get along with other people,

but you ignore the feedback you get from others,

you are denser than diamonds and dumber than doorposts.

You may actually be a brother in Christ,

but that won't stop me from telling you when your attitude stinks, as it presently does.

Whatever. I (among others) rebuke you for your arrogance. Whether you deal with it is your problem.

I see little evidence of the fruit of the Holy Spirit in you

, which leads me to doubt your maturity in Christ.

Absence of salvation is the only other possible cause.

you're the one doing the slandering and belittling, calling "Babies" those about whom you know nothing.

A little word from the the Scriptures to those (yourself included) who say: "'Keep to yourself, Do not come near me, For I am holier than you!' These are smoke in My nostrils, A fire that burns all the day." Isaiah 65v5

Has JA set forth any false doctrine yet?

Mark 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.