Porn Addiction/Marriage "Arrangement"

That is true the word "Lust" has different meanings, however, it is not the word by it's self but the full context of the passage test and verse where it used.


as you used the Hebrew word nep̄eš = that which breathes, the breathing substance or being, soul, the inner being of man
Found in exodus 15:9
The enemy said, I will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoil; my lust shall be satisfied upon them; I will draw my sword, my hand shall destroy them.

If we apply Nepes here as it is that which breathes you must ask does it fit the contextually? Because the text is speaking of war aginst the enemy of Moses and Gods people so when Moses says:

" my lust shall be satisfied upon them; I will draw my sword, my hand shall destroy them."

Does LUST here mean breathe? NOw the word Nepes also can be used as soul, self, life, creature, person, appetite, mind, living being, desire, emotion, passion.

Moses is saying HE has a strong desire to kill his enemy. That desire surely can be the same Lust one could have for HIS wife now it is?
SO to say I "Nepes" my wife would not be a good thing would it? Or you breathe in your wife?

Context The only way you can lust for a person is to be done in the flesh contextually. Therefore the bible is clear Lust of the flesh is never a good thing and it doesn't say as long as it is your wife or husband.

That was my point. Lust doesn't always mean something sexual and the word needs to be used in the right context. You said that lust was mentioned 19 times so I'm pointing out it's not always a sexual thing.

And I'm still going to point out the Song of Solomon as an example of lust in marriage.

Again, I'm wondering...do you think the gift Yahweh gave to married couples is supposed to be clinical and without desire? Were you raised to believe desire toward a spouse is sin?

Okay, then, let's take a closer look at the 19 instances of the word "lust", in the Bible. Because if you honestly look at what scripture and the old Greek/Hebrew is saying, you'll notice that the word doesn't mean the same thing every single time it's used.

In the Old Testament we have:

Exodus 15:9 and Psalm 78:18
the word lust here is nepesh, which means breathing and is derived from the word nâphash, which means to breathe.

In Psalm 78:30 the word lust is Ta’ăvâh and means: longing, delight, satisfaction

In Psalm 81:12 the word lust is Sheriyrûwth, which means: twisted

Proverbs 6:25 is châmad which, again, means to delight in

New Testament:

Matthew 5:28 and James 4:2 the word in Greek is ĕpithumĕō and it means: to set the heart upon, long for

Romans 1:27 the word lust is ōrĕxis and means: excitement of the mind, longing after

We have ĕpithumia which means: a longing in these verses:
Romans 7:7
Galations 5:16
James 1:14
James 1:15
2 Peter 1:4
2 Peter 2:10
1 John 2:16 (twice used)
1 John 2:17

And interestingly enough, the word lust, or pathŏs in
1 Thessalonians 4:5
actually means suffering!

Oh, and the Strong's doesn't list a Greek definition for the word lust in 1 Corinthians 10:6.

The Bible does show lust in the context of marriage. Have you not read the Song of Solomon? It is full of love-making, longing, and desire. The very definition of lust! I'm curious, do you think sex is supposed to be a clinical act, with no emotion involved? I mean, if a husband and wife don't crave each other then they probably won't be engaging in the gift that Yahweh gave. Which THEN puts them in a position of sin (1 Corinthians 7:5).

At any rate, in the context of marriage, it is perfectly normal and right to desire the body of one's spouse. To "long for" my husband is not a perversion.

I did not interject or twist scripture to make it what I want it to be. Grab a Strong's Concordance (there's a free one online if you don't have a physical copy) and dig into the verses I've shared. Check out what the original languages meant when they referred to lust. It (usually) just means longing. And depending on the context of the scripture, that longing can be negative or positive.
Look up the other verses that use the same Greek or Hebrew words and you'll see that the Greek words ARE used in other situations that have nothing to do with sex. For example, châmad (lust) being used to describe a whoring woman AND used to describe the "goodly" (lust) clothes that Rebekah put on Jacob.

Interesting that you're putting assumptions in my marriage.

Yes, my husband and I lust for each other.
We also agape each other. We're best friends. We would die for each other.

I'm close to 40. My husband is older than me. If he gets so old his parts "don't work" anymore, my love for him won't change. Our relationship isn't based solely on sex. Sex is just the icing on the cake, so to speak.

Who hurt you so badly that you have such a negative view of marriage and the marriage bed?? Why such a cynical attitude towards men?

I have gone through the verses you have provided none of which can be applied in a godly relationship or marriage.

There is no scripture that says Jacob Lusted for his wife. Jacob lusted for Rachel BEFORE HE Married her, and if he had not been so lustful he would have known it was Leah in the bed, not Rachel.

It must have been quite dark in that room with Leah, Maybe the guy was drunk.

song of solomon wasnt lust. It was all encompassing love in the song for each other.

when someone is watching porn or someone is doing porn, for cameras etc, it is not singing of love or calling for each other. There is none of that. Dont kid yourself that porn is about love or helps a marriage.

song of solomon wasnt lust. It was all encompassing love in the song for each other.

when someone is watching porn or someone is doing porn, for cameras etc, it is not singing of love or calling for each other. There is none of that. Dont kid yourself that porn is about love or helps a marriage.

this thread was about porn in marriage.

dont know why you were trying to make it out like you had it in yours?!

haha it is porn thats actually clinical. as its without love.

desire is neither here nor there. when people reach puberty they might desire all the time cos their hormones are raging. You can have desire in a pill apparently!

I dont want to hold you up!! No one can spend all day in here lol
And I think you idea for the thread sounds wonderful! I tried to message you but it wouldn't let me. Have a blessed day!

I'm not saying porn is ok.
The meaning of lust is desire.
There is nothing sinful about a woman desiring her husband.

Outside of marriage? Lust (sexual desire) is sinful.

I wasn't. YOU said you dont want to be lusted after. I said I dont mind my HUSBAND lusting after me.
The original idea of this thread got slightly derailed.
There is no porn in my marriage. Just a good dose of healthy lust..excuse me "desire" 🙄 towards my husband, and he towards me. Lust aka desire can be a good thing in the proper context. Porn is never ok, no matter the context.

Have I cleared that up?

Poor Leah, even though she had several children with Jacob, she wasnt loved.

I'm not saying porn is ok.
The meaning of lust is desire.
There is nothing sinful about a woman desiring her husband.

Outside of marriage? Lust (sexual desire) is sinful.

song of solomon wasnt lust. It was all encompassing love in the song for each other.

when someone is watching porn or someone is doing porn, for cameras etc, it is not singing of love or calling for each other. There is none of that. Dont kid yourself that porn is about love or helps a marriage.

I would classify lust within marriage towards one's spouse as desire, and that is a very healthy thing to have.