Gods Standard of Righteousness

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justbyfaith

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Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

When we confess Christ and are saved we seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness then God will supply our needs food and clothing.

Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Act 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Those who work righteousness is accepted with God.

So while the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us we have to work righteousness to be accepted with God.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

We are servants of righteousness so we actively have to pursue and do righteousness.

1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Whoever does not do righteousness is not of God.

Righteousness to be active in our life has to be an act of doing good.

Some people like to make the excuse the righteousness of Christ is imputed to them and say their lifestyle does not matter too much but righteousness has to be an act to be active in their life.

It is like some people say they do not have to do works for we are saved by faith but charity, love in action, is greater than faith and love can only be done in works for it to be active in our life which James said faith without works is dead, and a person is justified by works and not faith alone.

And John said do not love in word, neither in tongue, but in deeds and in truth.

When we first confess Christ and are saved the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us.

And then we have to work righteousness to have it active in our life for we are now led of the Spirit.

When we have faith and confess Christ we are saved.

And then we have to have works of love to have faith active in our life for we are led of the Spirit now.

But some people do not actively do righteousness and works of love and think they are alright.
If anyone has the Holy Ghost (who is obtained through faith alone in Jesus Christ) then the Holy Ghost will motivate them to be obedient.

But their salvation is not dependent on their perfomance (Romans 4:1-8, Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7, Romans 11:5-6).

The love of the Lord is shed abroad in the hearts of all those who are truly born again (Romans 5:5).

And this love is not impractical (1 John 3:17-18).

Salvation, however, is a free gift (Romans 5:15-17). Righteousness is a gift that is given to us by God (Romans 5:17).

We do what is righteous because we are righteous.

We are not righteous because we do what is righteous.

People can do righreousness at some times and yet practice iniquity on the side (see Matthew 7:21-23).

If someone has received the gift of righteousness, they will consistently practice righteousness; the Lord will cause them to walk in His statutes and in His judgments (Ezekiel 36:27, Philippians 2:13).

They do what is righteous because it is in their nature;

Not because they feel that they have to do righteousness in order to maintain their salvation.

If you do what is righteous in order to maintain your salvation, you may not actually have salvation.

You should do righteousness because it is in your nature to do so; because you have been born again.
 

justbyfaith

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no, thanks.

i do not need you to pray that i become lost in the same wrong mindset that you have.
You have my prayers anyway.

Don't worry...if I am truly lost in the mindset that I have, God is not going to bring you over to my mindset just because I pray for it to happen. God doesn't answer prayers in the affirmative that aren't according to His will.

However, if I am in the right mindset, I believe that He is going to show you the truth of what I am preaching, in His word.

I am also not opposed to your lifting up a prayer or two for me.
 

gb9

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You have my prayers anyway.

Don't worry...if I am truly lost in the mindset that I have, God is not going to bring you over to my mindset just because I pray for it to happen. God doesn't answer prayers in the affirmative that aren't according to His will.

However, if I am in the right mindset, I believe that He is going to show you the truth of what I am preaching, in His word.

I am also not opposed to your lifting up a prayer or two for me.
my prayer for you is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

nothing else will work. nothing.

not good deeds, not good works. not keeping the Law. not good behavior. nothing.
 

Charlie24

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No, it is you that is doing us the favor.
I am new here, peachy, I was hoping that we could disagree and still be friends.

If one is willing to understand the opposite view one can go to the scripture and see if those things are true or false.

Many friendships have been made by just trying to understand the opposite view.
 

justbyfaith

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my prayer for you is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

nothing else will work. nothing.

not good deeds, not good works. not keeping the Law. not good behavior. nothing.
I believe in and on the Lord Jesus Christ with all of my heart.

I consider that He gave us teachings that we are to follow; and that we are to receive Him not only as Saviour, but as Lord.

Jesus is my Lord; and this statement is also backed up by the fact that I obey Him.

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/take-with-you-words.202344/
 

gb9

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I am new here, peachy, I was hoping that we could disagree and still be friends.

If one is willing to understand the opposite view one can go to the scripture and see if those things are true or false.

Many friendships have been made by just trying to understand the opposite view.
I am not a friend to an unbeliever.
 

Charlie24

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I believe in and on the Lord Jesus Christ with all of my heart.

I consider that He gave us teachings that we are to follow; and that we are to receive Him not only as Saviour, but as Lord.

Jesus is my Lord; and this statement is also backed up by the fact that I obey Him.

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/take-with-you-words.202344/
The Law has not been properly taught in the ranks of the churches, JBF.

Most see the Law as a bad thing, not understanding "our new relationship to the Law."

They cannot see that the Law was destined to be fulfilled by Christ, therefore they cannot understand the full meaning of the New Covenant that Christ gave His life to activate.
 

justbyfaith

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then you trusting something else ,

that will not get it done.
So, you think that if we are obedient to the Lordship of Jesus Christ in our life, that we are not trusting in Jesus Christ and what He did for us on the Cross, for salvation?
 

justbyfaith

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So how much time have you spent with him in his every day life?

I never go by what they say I go by what they do.
His agreement with sound doctrine indicates to me that he is mature as a believer.

People living sinful lifestyles generally do not agree with what I tend to preach.
 
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Godsgirl83

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I never go by what they say I go by what they do.
Again, as I stated to you in another thread:
go look in a mirror as you say this.

As I read your post in multiple threads, I see no fruit.
 
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Godsgirl83

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I am new here, peachy, I was hoping that we could disagree and still be friends.
Hi Charlie, (and welcome to CC)
Just know that "peachy" is new here too.
You've been here a few days longer than him, who just joined (as of this posting, ) 26 hrs ago.
Plenty of other (long time) users here to befriend.
 
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Again, as I stated to you in another thread:
go look in a mirror as you say this.

As I read your post in multiple threads, I see no fruit.
If you want to see any fruit you have to sow it for you reap what you sow.
I think that is what Jesus said. Yes that is what he said...And you can always tell by the fruit they reap
from what they have sown. Therefore you are known by your fruit.
You are always trying to get a free ride.
No free ride for you from me.