Evolution

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Quite the opposite. There is absolutely no evidence for evolution, since no one has actually found intermediate forms. So evolution is just another atheistic religion.
"The fact is that evolutionists believe in evolution because they want to. It is their desire at all costs to explain the origin of everything without a Creator. Evolutionism is thus intrinsically an atheistic religion." -- Henry Morris.
Well if Henry Morris said it must be true, well researched and beyond reproach. Remind us who he was please.
 

Nehemiah6

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Well if Henry Morris said it must be true, well researched and beyond reproach. Remind us who he was please.
It does not matter. For example there is no objective evidence to show anyone the progression from apes to humans (or any such bizarre idea). There have been a few hoaxes though.
 
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My time machine has swivel bucket seats!:geek:
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Ummmm.... I have a question....
Since when does Almighty God need science to validate His will?

What amazes me is how much effort "science" puts into "theoretically" describing "what" God did, without ever actually "defining" how God did it!
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LOL... Well, I guess it doesn't do any good to blame the sheep!
 
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Can anyone point me to a debate between an atheist and a creationist where the creationist wins? I have been looking and so far have been unable to find any. It seems to me that the atheist wins hands down every single time.
 
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The atheist believes in nothing and stands for nothing, but he is a liar and will still suffer in Hell...
 
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Can anyone point me to a debate between an atheist and a creationist where the creationist wins? I have been looking and so far have been unable to find any. It seems to me that the atheist wins hands down every single time.
There was some debate between Matt Dillahunty and (I think) Ray Comfort. The debate would have been a nice stalemate right up until Comfort conceded the position that something can exist without consciousness and at that point lost the debate. Had Comfort denied the concept that something can exist without consciousness, he would not have lost.

Most of those debates are just an exercise in logical reasoning. If someone drops the beat when it comes to making a case for their side, it doesn't mean their side is necessarily untenable, just that they didn't have the mental stamina to see their point through properly. The lack of a live debate where one side always wins isn't evidence that that side is right. When Paul was Saul in the Bible, he persecuted Christians and "won" the debates against them, leading to their execution in many cases. His success rate in legal proceedings did not ultimately give a good indication on what was true.
 

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Can anyone point me to a debate between an atheist and a creationist where the creationist wins? I have been looking and so far have been unable to find any. It seems to me that the atheist wins hands down every single time.
Creationists win every time. Why else do you think Dawkins and the so-called champions of atheism refuse to debate? It's because every time they debate, they reveal to those who watch how shallow their arguments are.
 
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Creationists win every time. Why else do you think Dawkins and the so-called champions of atheism refuse to debate? It's because every time they debate, they reveal to those who watch how shallow their arguments are.
Interesting. So you're saying creationists win the debates every time even though there has never been one? I've seen a few, for example Bill Nye vs. Ken Hamm where Nye wiped the floor with Hamm. Okay Nye didn't explitly say he was an atheist but Hamm certainly was a creationist.
 
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There was some debate between Matt Dillahunty and (I think) Ray Comfort. The debate would have been a nice stalemate right up until Comfort conceded the position that something can exist without consciousness and at that point lost the debate. Had Comfort denied the concept that something can exist without consciousness, he would not have lost.

Most of those debates are just an exercise in logical reasoning. If someone drops the beat when it comes to making a case for their side, it doesn't mean their side is necessarily untenable, just that they didn't have the mental stamina to see their point through properly. The lack of a live debate where one side always wins isn't evidence that that side is right. When Paul was Saul in the Bible, he persecuted Christians and "won" the debates against them, leading to their execution in many cases. His success rate in legal proceedings did not ultimately give a good indication on what was true.
Have you got a link to it?
 

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Interesting. So you're saying creationists win the debates every time even though there has never been one? I've seen a few, for example Bill Nye vs. Ken Hamm where Nye wiped the floor with Hamm. Okay Nye didn't explitly say he was an atheist but Hamm certainly was a creationist.
Debate then. If evolution is so true, why do you need to keep worshiping it? Just give us the facts and convince us.
 
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Debate then. If evolution is so true, why do you need to keep worshiping it? Just give us the facts and convince us.
worshiping evolution?
I don't debate idiots like you who attempt to poison the well before it's even started.
Anyway it's not my purpose to make anyone accept evolution, just to stop cult driven charlatans from hijacking christianity.
 

Moses_Young

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worshiping evolution?
I don't debate idiots like you who attempt to poison the well before it's even started.
Lol. You're the one who poisoned the well, and I'll leave others to decide who is the idiot, given you are the one drinking from the well you poisoned.
 

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Only if you ignore all the evidence, put your fingers in your ears and refuse to listen.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaena...ssils-that-support-evolution/?sh=5f8d8a2d8dbc
This is nonsensical. We know Scientists fake stuff all the time to get funding, they do it with so called Global Warming errrrrr, I mean Climate Change, they recreate the temps from the 30s which were very high, thus it makes it appear that temps have increased, but they haven't, we have to old data points which they manipulated and changed.

But all that is irrelevant anyway, no matter how God created the Universe and His creation, there is one thing no one can argue, Human Beings are record keepers, and we only have records going back about 6000 years. So, no matter what bones these "Ignorant of Bible truths" Scientists have, that "HUMAN BEINGS" are 100,000 years old, they have NO WAY of understanding when God placed His SPIRIT into man, thus crating a Human Being. Any "Animal" before that impartation by God is just that, a non intellectual animal.

Atheists and Evolutionists loses every argument and debate because they are wrong. Now I grant that God may have spoke Creation and all species into being in an Evolutionist's type way, that is still creation via an ORDER by God. So, just like we still see the Universe expanding, which also came from Gods ORDER which produced the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago. But, ONLY God could impart His spirit into men, and He did that 6000 years ago.

If God decided to impart his spirit into Two Dogs tomorrow, those 2 dogs would become immortal souls with intelligence. Their DNA would thus be passed on, the other dogs would still be dogs. The point being, God's impartation of His spirit can not be proven by scientists, (LOL) so all of this supposed vast knowledge is thus rendered futile. In 5000 years (the year 7021), so called Scientists would look back at the dog race and say, they are 350 million years old, and they must have EVOLVED INTELLIGENCE, no, they would have no way of understanding God imparted his Spirit into two dogs in Dec. of 2021, and thus THOSE DOGS with intelligence were created in 2021.

God says He will send things to deceive those kind of people who love to doubt God, and He calls them fools.
 
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This is nonsensical. We know Scientists fake stuff all the time to get funding, they do it with so called Global Warming errrrrr, I mean Climate Change, they recreate the temps from the 30s which were very high, thus it makes it appear that temps have increased, but they haven't, we have to old data points which they manipulated and changed.

But all that is irrelevant anyway, no matter how God created the Universe and His creation, there is one thing no one can argue, Human Beings are record keepers, and we only have records going back about 6000 years. So, no matter what bones these "Ignorant of Bible truths" Scientists have, that "HUMAN BEINGS" are 100,000 years old, they have NO WAY of understanding when God placed His SPIRIT into man, thus crating a Human Being. Any "Animal" before that impartation by God is just that, a non intellectual animal.

Atheists and Evolutionists loses every argument and debate because they are wrong. Now I grant that God may have spoke Creation and all species into being in an Evolutionist's type way, that is still creation via an ORDER by God. So, just like we still see the Universe expanding, which also came from Gods ORDER which produced the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago. But, ONLY God could impart His spirit into men, and He did that 6000 years ago.

If God decided to impart his spirit into Two Dogs tomorrow, those 2 dogs would become immortal souls with intelligence. Their DNA would thus be passed on, the other dogs would still be dogs. The point being, God's impartation of His spirit can not be proven by scientists, (LOL) so all of this supposed vast knowledge is thus rendered futile. In 5000 years (the year 7021), so called Scientists would look back at the dog race and say, they are 350 million years old, and they must have EVOLVED INTELLIGENCE, no, they would have no way of understanding God imparted his Spirit into two dogs in Dec. of 2021, and thus THOSE DOGS with intelligence were created in 2021.

God says He will send things to deceive those kind of people who love to doubt God, and He calls them fools.
So, ignoring God's creation of MAN for the moment, are you saying evolution could have taken place before 6000 years ago? Please remember this thread is about evolution which only applies to biological life and has nothing to do with cosmology which is a branch of physics nor does it have anything to do with climate change.
 

Dino246

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So, ignoring God's creation of MAN for the moment, are you saying evolution could have taken place before 6000 years ago? Please remember this thread is about evolution which only applies to biological life and has nothing to do with cosmology which is a branch of physics nor does it have anything to do with climate change.
Cosmological evolution is part of the whole anti-creation belief system.