Who Justifieth the Ungodly

You who say this do not know what is free-will, and how it is possible to be really good; that he who is good by his own choice is really good; but he who is made good by another under necessity is not really good, because he is not what he is by his own choice.

No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation.
The priests indeed receive such offering as reconciliation of the worshippers for the trespasses against the law of Moses, but for sins agains the Law of God there can be no remission, save by repentance and amendment.

1 Samuel 15:22 And Samuel said, Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

-Blood Sacrifice is leaven from the pharisees:

Matthew 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Ezekiel 5:6 And she hath changed my judgments into wickedness more than the nations, and my statutes more than the countries that are round about her: for they have refused my judgments and my statutes, they have not walked in them.

-Corruption of the covenant of Levi:

Malachi 2:8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.

-Blood Sacrifice is not what our Father in Heaven wants:

Psalms 51:16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

-Blood Sacrifice was not commanded by our Father:

Jeremiah 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

-Blood sacrifice is "of fools" and evil:

Ecclesiastes 5:1 Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God, and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil.

-Blood sacrifice is an abomination:

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

If you want to argue with God and His word, knock yourself out.
One day in 1973, someone read this to me...
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." - John 3:16
As he did, I saw a hand that was holding a sword, thrust through a curtain and plunge the sword into my belly. I instantly knew that it was true. I admit that this was an uncommon experience, but it is the same truth by which all may be saved.
God did that...I agree with Him.

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

"18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. " - James 2:18
True faith always produces works. But we are saved by faith alone.

You can only show your faith by your works, so in order to have true faith you must have works also. So you can't be saved by faith alone, because dead faith won't justify anyone, in order to be justified you must have works to prove your faith.

99% faith, 1% works is 100% unbelief.
There is nothing that any of us can do, of our own effort, that can add to, or is needed for, our salvation. Works must follow.
I am only saved by accepting, by faith, aka God said it, I believe it, what Christ did on the cross.
This salvation comes, as a gift from God, when we hear His word regarding salvation, and believe it.
When I first heard about this salvation, I believed it was true. I didn't try to believe it, I just did. It was a gift. Works came afterwards.
Faith, separate from works, saves. Works will then follow. Let's not get the cart before the horse.
You can be saved by accepting salvation as a gift. That being Christ died in your place, for your sin.
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." - Romans 6:23

So are the devils saved because they also believe?

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

You can only be saved after you have done the works, because until then it is dead faith.
Exodus 23:8 And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.

Proverbs 15:27 He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.

Proverbs 17:23 A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment.

Isaiah 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.

Isaiah 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

The question here is not about devils, but whether or not you will accept Christ's atonement for your sins...past, present, and future.
That Jesus died for our sins is a reality...you just need to accept it as such.
Jesus didn't die to save demons.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.


the purpose of the law was to bring us to Christ so that we may be justified through faith:

Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.


Once justified by faith, the schoolmaster (law) has completed its task and we become born from above (children of God) through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ:

Galatians 3:

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.


As born again children of God, the grace of God teaches us how we are to live in this world:

Titus 2:

11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world
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You were saying you were justified by dead faith without works, I was just comparing you to the devils who also believe but don't have works. So, it is about dead faith, you can't ignore parts of the Bible.
Yes you have to keep the whole Law, and His commandments are not grievous, His burden is Light.

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You are yet to respond me how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood?

I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to put words into my mouth. I have a living faith, given to me by my God, Yahweh. If you want to slander what He has done, though I wouldn't advise it, I guess it's your right to do it.
If you think you can keep the whole law, you are delusional, and once again are calling the Lord of truth a liar. You need to accept Christ.
"…22And this righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no distinction, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.…: - Romans 3:22-24

1 John 5:

1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God


It is the faith of the believer which gives the victory, and specifically faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, the Messiah. None of us keep the law perfectly which is why the purpose of the law was as the schoolmaster. The law reveals to mankind the need of the Savior of the world, the Lord Jesus Christ. As Oblio pointed out in Post #933, all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23).
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If you have living faith now, you are justified now, what I was saying was: you were not justified back then when you just believed without any works, because that is dead faith without works.
So, you just said you have living faith, but don't keep the commandments?

1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

King David keeping the whole Law, if he can do it, so can we:

Psalm 18:21 For I have kept the ways of the Lord, and have not wickedly departed from my God.
22 For all his judgments were before me, and I did not put away his statutes from me.
23 I was also upright before him, and I kept myself from mine iniquity.

Psalm 119:1 Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the Lord.
2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.

11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

22 Remove from me reproach and contempt; for I have kept thy testimonies.

55 I have remembered thy name, O Lord, in the night, and have kept thy law.
56 This I had, because I kept thy precepts.

63 I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts.

66 Teach me good judgment and knowledge: for I have believed thy commandments.
67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.

100 I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.

166 Lord, I have hoped for thy salvation, and done thy commandments.

168 I have kept thy precepts and thy testimonies: for all my ways are before thee.

173 Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts.
You mean dead faith, if you don't keep His commandments:

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

"So, you just said you have living faith, but don't keep the commandments?" - DanielLL
"If you think you can keep the whole law, you are delusional." - Oblio
"If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us." 1 John 1:10
What is your point, Daniel?
You are not in step with the Spirit. I understand that you are not a Christian, though you seem to know your way around the word.
Are you here because you are interested in Christianity, or are you like many new members I've encountered on these kind of forums who actually come from U.F.O. cults, Satanist, Witch, or other occultic groups with the sole purpose of damaging us?

I have sinned in the past. But if I confess He is faithfull to forgive me and cleanse me from all unrighteousness, all unrighteousness is sin. I have sinned, but I was cleansed from all sin, because I repented and stopped sinning. Just because I have sinned, doesn't mean I have to keep sinning, I can repent and stop sinning. That is the whole message, Repent! Go and sin no more.
I showed you King David, but think about it. You are saying the Law is impossible to keep, and God gave this impossible to keep Law to His people, and whosoever does not keep this impossible to keep law, should be killed. Do you not see the err?

Me and just about every moderately healthy Christian I've ever known. The rare exceptions are those who believe they are without sin.
In my experience, this is unhealthy and unrealistic cultish thinking. It nearly destroyed me. But, it's your life...believe what you want.

So you don't believe Jesus "cleanses us from all unrighteousness"?
The only way to be in Him is to be without sin, because in Him there is no darkness at all.

1. Justification...when one, by faith, accepts the substitutionary sacrifice of Christ for ones debt of sin. A one-time event. - spirit
2. Sanctification...an ongoing process of actually being cleansed of sin. - soul
3. Glorification...a future event when one receives a new, eternal body. - body