What is meant when people say 'guns don't kill people; people do'?

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In truth it's the high fat content, and excessive salt and sugar in diets that killing people. Less fruits and vegetables, less nutrition and less exercise. It's not one single thing it's a variety of things.
I was joking. :rolleyes:
 
Since the AR-15 is a military weapon, our commander in chief has the authority to remove such weapons from public use.

An AR-15-style rifle is any lightweight semi-automatic rifle based on the Colt AR-15 design. ,.,.,. Airplane Corporation division ArmaLite sold the patent and trademarks to Colt's Manufacturing Company in 1959. After most of Colt's patents for the Colt AR-15 expired in 1977, ,..,,Colt retained the trademark of the AR-15 and is the sole manufacturer able to label their firearms as AR-15
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle

Aircraft Co. Colt marketed the redesigned rifle to various military services around the world and was eventually adopted by the U.S. military in January 1962 and subsequently designated as M16 rifle in December 1963, which went into production and service in 1964
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

The AR-15 was developed as a more portable alternative to the 7.62-mm (.308-calibre) battlefield rifles of the day, but ArmaLite had limited success in marketing it to the U.S. military. The AR-15 design was licensed to Colt’s Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company (later Colt’s Manufacturing LLC) in 1959, and upon its adoption by the U.S. Air Force in 1962, the AR-15 was designated the M16 by the Department of Defense.
https://www.britannica.com/technology/M16-rifle

The AR-15 was designed and built for our military and therefore our Commander in Chief has the authority to buy back all AR-15’s from public use and anyone who refuses to release this killing machine shout be fined $1 million dollars and\or one year in jail.
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The AR-15 was designed and built for our military and therefore our Commander in Chief has the authority to buy back all AR-15’s from public use and anyone who refuses to release this killing machine shout be fined $1 million dollars and\or one year in jail.

:)-
Again I ask "What good would that do? "
 

I_am_Canadian

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Since the AR-15 is a military weapon, our commander in chief has the authority to remove such weapons from public use.

An AR-15-style rifle is any lightweight semi-automatic rifle based on the Colt AR-15 design. ,.,.,. Airplane Corporation division ArmaLite sold the patent and trademarks to Colt's Manufacturing Company in 1959. After most of Colt's patents for the Colt AR-15 expired in 1977, ,..,,Colt retained the trademark of the AR-15 and is the sole manufacturer able to label their firearms as AR-15
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle

Aircraft Co. Colt marketed the redesigned rifle to various military services around the world and was eventually adopted by the U.S. military in January 1962 and subsequently designated as M16 rifle in December 1963, which went into production and service in 1964
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

The AR-15 was developed as a more portable alternative to the 7.62-mm (.308-calibre) battlefield rifles of the day, but ArmaLite had limited success in marketing it to the U.S. military. The AR-15 design was licensed to Colt’s Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company (later Colt’s Manufacturing LLC) in 1959, and upon its adoption by the U.S. Air Force in 1962, the AR-15 was designated the M16 by the Department of Defense.
https://www.britannica.com/technology/M16-rifle

The AR-15 was designed and built for our military and therefore our Commander in Chief has the authority to buy back all AR-15’s from public use and anyone who refuses to release this killing machine shout be fined $1 million dollars and\or one year in jail.
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Why are military rifles being released to the general public?? I guess because the us milirary system is different and almost every citizen does military service it makes sence military grade weapons would be released to the general public.
 

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The AR-15 was designed and built for our military and therefore our Commander in Chief has the authority to buy back all AR-15’s from public use...
Since the so-called "Commander-in-Chief" is a total fraud, it is the military Special Forces which should have gone after him to remove him from the White House as Domestic Enemy #1. Then all this talk about grabbing guns would be moot. A fraudulent government fears the people hence this push for gun confiscation.

Red Flag Gun Laws Set The Stage For Selective Disarmament Of Conservatives
"Once the accusation [of mental instability] is made, authorities can confiscate the target person's firearms without due process under the law on the grounds that they present a danger to themselves and others. No jury, no testing, no proof is required to get a court order. It is then up to the accused to prove they are NOT unstable and that they deserve to have their firearms returned. This process could take years, if the guns are ever returned at all."
Red Flag Gun Laws Set The Stage For Selective Disarmament Of Conservatives | ZeroHedge


Given the fact that the government is now the enemy of the people, perhaps more people should get AR-15's and go after the government. Perhaps it's time for a real insurrection against an illegitimate government. "2000 Mules" should have been seen by every citizen, but even Fox News betrayed the people and refused to show it.
 

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fox news is just controlled opposition.
 

I_am_Canadian

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Since the so-called "Commander-in-Chief" is a total fraud, it is the military Special Forces which should have gone after him to remove him from the White House as Domestic Enemy #1. Then all this talk about grabbing guns would be moot. A fraudulent government fears the people hence this push for gun confiscation.

Red Flag Gun Laws Set The Stage For Selective Disarmament Of Conservatives
"Once the accusation [of mental instability] is made, authorities can confiscate the target person's firearms without due process under the law on the grounds that they present a danger to themselves and others. No jury, no testing, no proof is required to get a court order. It is then up to the accused to prove they are NOT unstable and that they deserve to have their firearms returned. This process could take years, if the guns are ever returned at all."
Red Flag Gun Laws Set The Stage For Selective Disarmament Of Conservatives | ZeroHedge


Given the fact that the government is now the enemy of the people, perhaps more people should get AR-15's and go after the government. Perhaps it's time for a real insurrection against an illegitimate government. "2000 Mules" should have been seen by every citizen, but even Fox News betrayed the people and refused to show it.
Maybe, but in reality Im too busy trying to solve Canadas problems to solve Americas problems
 

I_am_Canadian

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There will be no solving Canada's problems until Trudeau is ousted and all his damage is reversed.
I agree, but evil trees bring forth evil fruits remember, people elect evil politicians because they themselves are evil.

The whole matter begins with individuals, first they must repent and give their heart to Christ before Canada can become the great nation it used to be.
 
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Since the AR-15 is a military weapon, our commander in chief has the authority to remove such weapons from public use.

An AR-15-style rifle is any lightweight semi-automatic rifle based on the Colt AR-15 design. ,.,.,. Airplane Corporation division ArmaLite sold the patent and trademarks to Colt's Manufacturing Company in 1959. After most of Colt's patents for the Colt AR-15 expired in 1977, ,..,,Colt retained the trademark of the AR-15 and is the sole manufacturer able to label their firearms as AR-15
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle

Aircraft Co. Colt marketed the redesigned rifle to various military services around the world and was eventually adopted by the U.S. military in January 1962 and subsequently designated as M16 rifle in December 1963, which went into production and service in 1964
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15

The AR-15 was developed as a more portable alternative to the 7.62-mm (.308-calibre) battlefield rifles of the day, but ArmaLite had limited success in marketing it to the U.S. military. The AR-15 design was licensed to Colt’s Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company (later Colt’s Manufacturing LLC) in 1959, and upon its adoption by the U.S. Air Force in 1962, the AR-15 was designated the M16 by the Department of Defense.
https://www.britannica.com/technology/M16-rifle

The AR-15 was designed and built for our military and therefore our Commander in Chief has the authority to buy back all AR-15’s from public use and anyone who refuses to release this killing machine shout be fined $1 million dollars and\or one year in jail.
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Commander in chief. Too bad we don't have one at the moment. :unsure:

Maybe they can take back the internet too since the military designed that.
 

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I have heard this statement used in the context of debate on gun ownership, can someone explain please?
There are guns in my house and not one of them have ever gotten up and started shooting anything...

It takes a human being to pick up a gun, load the gun and pull the trigger.

If a human being picks up a gun with the intent to kill another human being the defect is in the heart of the man, not the gun.
 

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Is that why large crowds are required to stone people to death? :unsure:
That and round stones don't do as much damage as sharp ones, but I think in honesty it's more of a spectator sport like wrestling or MMA fights, people just want to see someone else get pulverized.

Kinda like when Ceasar fed people to the lion's after gladiator fights, it's purely entertainment.

Back then yes stoning was a way to punish criminals, you can only throw so many stones before your arms get tired but if it was a death sentence and you get tired after a hundred stones or something and he is still alive than yes someone else would have to take over.

But I'm guessing the majority of people their were purely spectators
 

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That and round stones don't do as much damage as sharp ones, but I think in honesty it's more of a spectator sport like wrestling or MMA fights, people just want to see someone else get pulverized.

Kinda like when Ceasar fed people to the lion's after gladiator fights, it's purely entertainment.

Back then yes stoning was a way to punish criminals, you can only throw so many stones before your arms get tired but if it was a death sentence and you get tired after a hundred stones or something and he is still alive than yes someone else would have to take over.

But I'm guessing the majority of people their were purely spectators
Plus, they threw large stones, not itty bitty pebbles...

Probably more like bricks, and one good hit with a stone that size could
certainly knock your lights out. Not many would need to be thrown.


And, in acknowledgment of what thread this is: Yeah! Hey, hey, bricks need to be outlawed!!!! ;):whistle::giggle:
 

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Plus, they threw large stones, not itty bitty pebbles...

Probably more like bricks, and one good hit with a stone that size could
certainly knock your lights out. Not many would need to be thrown.


And, in acknowledgment of what thread this is: Yeah! Hey, hey, bricks need to be outlawed!!!! ;):whistle::giggle:
If you outlaw bricks then they'll just kill you with sticks. You need to cut down all the trees.
 

Magenta

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If you outlaw bricks then they'll just kill you with sticks. You need to cut down all the trees.
They'll just make sticks outta them chopped down trees! Best to burn them...
 
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There are guns in my house and not one of them have ever gotten up and started shooting anything...

It takes a human being to pick up a gun, load the gun and pull the trigger.

If a human being picks up a gun with the intent to kill another human being the defect is in the heart of the man, not the gun.
It is too difficult take away guns from just "bad" people; that would happen after the fact which is too late. Sometimes a few bad seeds ruin it for everyone. For example, there are always a few bad students who chew gum and them stick it under the desk, on books, etc. So the easiest way for the teacher is to ban gum for the whole class. If there is vending machine vandalism, the school removes the vending machine. If students misbehave, the punishment gets worse. Gun restrictions won't stop gangs from having guns; they always manage to find guns through their secret providers. But it will reduce a lot of other types of shootings like domestic violence situatons, suicides, accidental deaths, etc. Most women shot are murdered by men they know not by strangers.
 
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Though I am not an American, it is my understanding that the right to bear arms was enshrined in the constitution to, at least in part, protect the people from tyrannical governments, like the ones we presently have in America and Canada. Who are doing this...
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" - Isaiah 5:20