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Angels can be spirit beings created to serve the House of God or men of flesh who carry a message from God.

Sons of God are similar: we might refer to spirit angels as sons of God because they originated from God. Or we might refer to men of flesh as sons of God because they are of a particular order of priesthood, like Melchizedek, who are commissioned to represent God in their generation.

When we talk about sons of God having sex, however, then our choice is clear: since angels have no physical bodies apart from God’s provision, then the sons of God who had sex with women were the priests. Like Isaac, they were to find suitable wives from their family lineage. Instead, they chose any woman they wanted because of the women’s beauty. This was a violation akin to eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil: the women were pleasing to their eyes so they took what they wanted in disobedience. The sons of God failed the test of their generation. Thankfully, one son of God was found to be righteous: Noah.

No men "of the flesh" are referred to as "sons of God" = the LORD Jesus Christ clearly and indisputably stated this = Luke 20:34
So also did the Apostle John 1 John 3:1-3
So also did the Apostle Paul Corinthians ch15
So also did the Holy Spirit

It does not say the angels it says the sons of God ... it's YOU [and others] who have identified these as angels. How you make fallen angels the sons of God I don't know.
The Jews were destroyed for unbelief
The angels are kept in prison for not keeping their proper domain
Sodom and Gomorrah were punished for inordinant sex

Three examples of God's dealing with rebellion but unconnected otherwise.

I don’t know what to tell you. This is elementary. “Adam, the son of God”. Luke 3.
And other places.

Fact = Strongs is in fact the scripture in hebrew.

Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.

Anyone who says that the "sons of God" in Genesis ch6 are "men" is lying and is not in fellowship with the Truth of Gods word on this subject.

I don’t know what to tell you. This is elementary. “Adam, the son of God”. Luke 3.
And other places.

I begin to see a cause of your errors. Was Strong inspired? No. Get real, man.


Says the one who continually adds to His words, claiming Scripture "clearly" says things it does not say at all.


I'm not interested in discussiong what "anyone" says. Let's focus on what Scripture says, what you say, and what I say.

I begin to see a cause of your errors. Was Strong inspired? No. Get real, man.


Says the one who continually adds to His words, claiming Scripture "clearly" says things it does not say at all.


I'm not interested in discussiong what "anyone" says. Let's focus on what Scripture says, what you say, and what I say.

I don’t know what to tell you. This is elementary. “Adam, the son of God”. Luke 3.
And other places.

but unconnected otherwise.

It does not say the angels it says the sons of God ... it's YOU [and others] who have identified these as angels. How you make fallen angels the sons of God I don't know.
The Jews were destroyed for unbelief
The angels are kept in prison for not keeping their proper domain
Sodom and Gomorrah were punished for inordinant sex

Three examples of God's dealing with rebellion but unconnected otherwise.

i accept ALL challengers = You , CS1, Aaron56

Follow your own guideline = "let's follow what scripture says"

Please provide the Scriptural Evidence that states the Genesis ch6 "sons of God" are "men of the flesh".

Scripture is Self-Correcting = find your evidence that is directly referencing Genesis ch6 "sons of God".

I have no obligation to provide Scripture to support an assertion I have not made. Read more carefully!

This is perfect - thank you

Truth A.) as you say "i do not know what to tell you"

Truth B.) Luke 3

You are failing to SEE/understand in what is the evidence in Luke ch3 and ch20 and 1 John 3:1-3 and Corinthians ch15

PLEASE provide the evidnece of SCripture stating that the "sons of God" of Genesis ch6 are "men of the flesh".

You certainly have shown assertiveness.

Be a man of God and make clear your assertion = we are obligated to Truth, fellowship in Him and His word.

Anything apart from that can be divisive, misleading and deadly.

Today is a Brand New Day in Christ = let us make the most of it.

No one can fault you for lacking passion.

It requires wisdom.
We know Melcizedek represents the priesthood that Christ restored. Christ is the high priest of that priesthood. Hebrews notes that Melchizedek was “like a Son of God”. Furthermore, there are no priests without a covenant. The priests, who administrated the covenant of God with God, are found at Sinai before the Law was given. They were typically the oldest males within each family.

Don’t get hung up on the phrase “sons of God”. Although it’s clearly in the NT referring to believers, you’ll find many more references to other words for son: neipios, teknon, neoniscus, huios. These are all “son” in the Greek with particular connotations. These are to be understood spiritually because God is the father of our spirits.

I have been crystal-clear in my assertions. For some reason, you have been unable to accept them as written. I suggest you "be a man of God" and go back to review what I have written... before making any more backhanded implications to impinge my character.

Help me out here = please give me your Post #s so i can review your assertion.

In post 213 you stated, “Since God clearly said that sons of God, which HE said are angels”.

Since I know that Scripture doesn’t contain such a statement, I asked in post 215, “Where does God state clearly that the sons of God are angels?”

In post 217 you responded with, “The Holy Spirit stated it clearly and our LORD Jesus Christ, the Creator, also stated it clearly.”

In post 218 I responded, “You dodged that almost completely. WHERE in Scripture did the Holy Spirit state clearly that the sons of God are angels??" I gave more info in 219 and rephrased my question.

In post 221 you said, “I see your dilemma” and pointed me to post 118.

I responded in post 225 with “There is no dilemma. Job 1:6 and 2:1 both use the same Hebrew phrase bene ha'elohim. This means "sons of God", not "angels". The Hebrew word for angels is ha'malakim. It's a different root with a different meaning. In other words, you have still provided no evidence for your claim.”

Read on from there. I have provided evidence contradicting your claim. You have not provided clear evidence supporting it. Instead, you have advised me to just believe every word of Scripture… implying clearly that I don’t... while you blather on about "Christian love". I don't consider insults and arrogance to be consistent with Christian love at all.

Again, your claim, which I reject as erroneous:

“God clearly said that sons of God, which HE said are angels” or, more succinctly, “God clearly said that the sons of God are angels”.

At no time have I asserted that the sons of God are not angels, nor that they are humans, nor anything else. I am simply and directly challenging your assertion as you worded it.

God has not “clearly” said that the sons of God are angels. For your assertion to be true, there would have to be a text in Scripture where God says something very much like, “The sons of God are angels”. That would be a clear statement. There is no such statement.

You pointed to several passages where “sons of God” are mentioned, and made some logical leaps to support your assertion. Let me be “clear”: If an assertion requires logical leaps, it isn’t clearly stated!

So, perhaps next time, instead of going off on an irrelevant rant implying that others are inferior to you, read carefully what they are saying, don’t make assumptions, and definitely don't imply that they don't believe or adding to Scripture! Further, don't be a hypocrite, doing exactly what you criticize others for doing.