Submit and Obey

Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves:
for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account,
that they may do it with joy, and not with grief:
for that is unprofitable for you.


What do you have to say to this,
that is written in the book of Hebrews
concerning you? If I had rule over you
would you obey me and submit yourselves to it?
Or would you rebel and not live by this written in the book of Hebrews
as you are commanded by it?

This passage came to me as referring to the priests and bave all the current high priest in Israel, according to the law.

A good example of this being the case is when Paul was taken before the High Priest of his time, and Paul talked back to him at the beginnning of the interogation. Upon being made aware he was talking to the High priest he i mmediately begged pardon stating he was unawares the he was the High Priest. I may only presume thatat until this Paul had been under the impression he was speaking to some official of the government, either of Rome or of Israel..

I know this well. There is no politician who is concerned with my soul or the souls of others, except, perhaps, Jimmy Carter, may God give him great reward, amen.

Yes, He always has and always will.

This passage came to me as referring to the priests and bave all the current high priest in Israel, according to the law.

A good example of this being the case is when Paul was taken before the High Priest of his time, and Paul talked back to him at the beginnning of the interogation. Upon being made aware he was talking to the High priest he i mmediately begged pardon stating he was unawares the he was the High Priest. I may only presume thatat until this Paul had been under the impression he was speaking to some official of the government, either of Rome or of Israel..

I know this well. There is no politician who is concerned with my soul or the souls of others, except, perhaps, Jimmy Carter, may God give him great reward, amen.

Yes, obey and submit as far as spiritual things go; but overseers don't have the right to rule everything in our lives. Like who to marry; what college to attend (or whether we can even go to college); or where to work; what kind of car to buy; etc. There are cults out there who do this.

Rather, overseers are to be spiritual leaders and teachers. They set the example of how people should conduct themselves as disciples of Christ.

I agree but not with the Carter bit. lol More of a Reagan fan.

So you have certain restrictions you would place upon anyone
that God would set over you to rule over you and be accountable to Him for your soul and well being,
that would determine if you would obey and submit to them? Is this correct? Yes or no?

Do you have a pastor that rules over you and is accountable for you to the Lord? Yes or no?
If you do not answer with a yes I will assume it is a NO.

If not then why not?

All I can say is tell me what group you belong to so I can avoid it like the plague.

You're asking if I attend a church with a pastor? Yes, I do.

To what degree is he responsible to God for your soul? What do you believe?

You would be better served if you avoided committing any sin like the plague.

Right. I'll take it under advisement.

Well, I don't see a pastor like a priest. I know God holds me accountable for how I live my life. My pastor doesn't know how I live my life outside of church, so I don't know how accountable he can be held for my soul. But he is accountable for what he preaches and that it is the truth of the word and that he is not leading people astray.

Put it to the test. Avoid committing any sin for just one day(as much as possible for you) and
see what takes place in your life at the end of that day. Please report back and let me know how it turned out for you.

All I can say is tell me what group you belong to so I can avoid it like the plague.