Am I a prophet 🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠

You're reading a meaning into that parable that isn't there. Jesus begins and ends the parable with its clear meaning: we must persist in our prayers. It doesn't have anything to do with prophets' gifts.

The bible is clear about the manifestation of the Spirit. It was very necessary for the early church(es) but not necessary today. [/quote/

Show me where the Bible teaches that. I have never seen that in the Bible.

[quote[There is no need for the miraculous manifestations of the Spirit today, those listed in 1 Cor 12:8-10 which simulated a body by individuals in order to edify the body and to grow the church as well.

We need no prophets, miracle workers, tongue speakers or interpreters of tongues etc today.

We have the bible today where the gifts served tge purpose back then.

And today, all you hear a out is tongues and not earthly tongues as evidenced in the bible, but incoherent babbling which serves NO purpose whatsoever.

it's fine by me if you only see it that way, but the reality is prayer brings about prophecy, the last word spoken by the unjust judge was prophecy, which was you will see the son of man coming.

The Judge was certainly no Christian, nor was he out to please God, he could have just said God will bring Justice for all.
The only reason the Judge spoke that was because God had heard the widows persistent prayer to the un just judge.

And out of the lips of the unjust Judge came a prophecy.

I take that part to be Jesus' commentary on the parable.

Holy smokes.

The gift of prophecy is a gift from the holy spirit,

The prophecy will only come out of your lips because it's being spoken by the holy spirit to somebody who needs help in believing in God. It will be witnessed by two atheists and the prophecy will come true. The atheists will then go on to believe in God.

The prophecy will be spoken to an unbelieving athiest. Once the prophecy has come true the unbelieving person will hopefully believe God is real.

Once the prophecy has been spoken the Gift of prophecy has gone.

If you then go into another place where somebody needs help with believing, the gift of prophecy could come to you again, via the holy spirit speaking through you.

Once the prophecy is finished the gift is gone.

So basically you have recieved a gift and passed it on. But your no longer a prophet until a new gift of prophecy comes.

Let's look to scripture where a born again athiest can also have a prophesy spoke through them from the holy spirit.

All people who feel oppressed please feel to disagree with me.

The born again athiest who speaks a prophesy.

The Parable of the Persistent Widow
18 Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up. 2 He said: “In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared what people thought. 3 And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, ‘Grant me justice against my adversary.’ ( this lady was also praying for God to speak).

4 “For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, ‘Even though I don’t fear God or care what people think, 5 yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won’t eventually come and attack me!’”

6 And the Lord said, “Listen to what the unjust judge says (the born again athiest where The spirit had spoke through him.);. 7 And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? 8 I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?”

Jesus may in fact be the Supreme authority, but he would never contradict himself or scripture. Not possible. The word or God is unchanging and everlasting.

Ultimately, a person's viewpoint on the relevance of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. It is directly related to the type of church they attend.

If you attend an independent church denomination, you could well be open to some of the gifts.

A Pentecostal church member will be open to nearly all the gifts.

If you attend a traditional church, you might have only healing and perhaps knowledge. Some traditional churches may only have the gifts of faith, hope, and love.

If you belong to Judaism, Jesus has not risen.

So we have a Christian law in place.

The type of church you attend is directly proportional to your understanding, of the relevance of spiritual gifts.

That is a fact.

Great. I asked you previously to delineate your experience to which you responded with a dumb, sarcastic remark. So once again, what EXACTLY have you experienced? Have you performed miracles? Have you miraculously healed someone? What? If you or someone you know or have witnessed doing such, why are there still ill people on hospitals all over the world? Why aren't you or they healing everyone? I know why: it's nonsense, that's why. You can't nor can anyone else!

Agree, and likewise, we no longer need prophesy either since we now have the complete word of God.

I don't see that in those verses. Where does the Bible teach that there is no need for these manifestations? The chapter even talks about different body parts functioning in different gifts and teaches says one part of the body does not to say to another, "I have no need of thee'-- which is contrary to your assertion.



I don't see that in the Bible. Do you have scripture for that, or do you think you have authority to just make up doctrine when it comes to the topic of spiritual gifts?



Show me where the Bible teaches that. Romans 12 calls teaching and exhortation gifts? Do you think no one teaches the word now, too?



I think you missed a word. I've witnessed a lot of gifts-- healing, speaking in tongues, interpretation of tongues, prophecy, and what I would consider to be the word of knowledge, in addition to teaching and gifts like that.

If you don't know a language, it sounds like incoherent babbling. Chinese and Vietnamese sound like babbling, but they both seem useful for many people who live in Asia. Also, I've mentioned I've spoken and corresponded with people who heard a language they knew spoken 'in tongues.' And I've also heard speaking in tongues that sound to my (somewhat linguistically trained) ears as what sounds like real languages. Those present did not understand what was spoken in tongues in I Corinthians 14, so Paul said to interpret for the church to be edified.

Your attitude in your previous "request" post (and repeated here) is all I needed to see to know that my (non-sarcastic) response was right on point. I know your position is incorrect. Nobody but God Himself can prove that to you, because you have a closed mind and a hard heart.

I mean to say that the sum and total of all future telling per se has already been codified into the Bible.

There has been no inspired future-telling prophetic utterances after the early Church period, ending at John and Revelation.

I disagree to a point. I have been to many places around the world where some Denominations, for example, in the United States, are completely removed from any gifts of the Holy Spirit, like the Anglican church. But in Africa, they are Charmatic. In India, where they have millions of Gods, the supernatural power of the One true God does the Miraculous. Also, where there are no doctors, many people have nothing but God's ability to heal. Seen that too. FYI I am not against Doctors; Luke was one.

And God uses them to heal.

The thing is......legit signs and wonders ARE MEANT TO BE SEEN. Their very function and purpose is that men might behold God's glorious power and believe on Him. In fact, the miracle of healing a leper was codified in the law to be duly witnessed AND RECORDED by the priest. The NT fact of which was meant as a loving outreach to the priests to bring them to faith. Which many did BTW.

Secret miracles just do not cut the mustard IMO.

You just proved my point.

1 Corinthians 4:20
For the kingdom of God is not in words, but in power.

so, you go to the doctor and get diagnosed + a sample is removed to test
test results positive
you go for a second opinion
same results

now you schedule for a full body ultrasound
a spot can be seen in the vision slides

few days later at Church Service the Pastor feels led by God to hold a time for Prayer Request/Prayer
you announce the positive results
the Church prays and you have the Faith to Believe

couple weeks later you resume schedule to remove the problem
this also is when doctors may take another look because they're expecting growth and they are fighting time
you get another body scan but more secluded to the area of issue
this time the Results are completely Negative, no mass, no nothing like it was never there
your doctor will suggest waiting a few days and doing another ultrasound

few days go by and you have another ultrasound
same results, Negative, no mass, no nothing like it was never there

but we KNOW it was there, because we have the biopsy that is 100% Positive to go back and re-exam


is this Miracle one that tens of thousands will know about?
nope
is this Miracle one that only a local Church, friends, and family will know about?
indeed

by the size of who will know, isn't this merely a ""Secret Miracle,"" one of no value to yourself?

not at all it is a testimony, and if one person hears it and comes to the Lord because of it that is Wonderful.