Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

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NTNT58

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Mohammed died in 632, not 633.
Good point, I've unchecked bible chapter names etc. so when only the bible message itself is searched it comes up as 632 now. I'm still waiting for someone to prove me wrong on this and on the other formulas I posted about.
 

FRB72

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I don't get it. Are you arguing against me? Because your video only proves my point and the words/numbers in the bible are to be used to look up additional information as proof of the Bible's divine origin. That was my point in the first place. But in addition to that, the King James version has many of these words/number combinations that other versions don't have, and since it's the most popular book and by far most popular bible ever made, it makes sense that God would put his signature inside it to verify it as the truest of all versions.

Prove me wrong.
I’ve just joined this forum having spent a long time on another one, where I felt the Lord indicate to me that I had shared what I was supposed to there.

I personally read the NKJV but ignore the footnotes, preferring it in audiobook format. I also have Max McLean reading the KJV. I don’t accept the idea that the Alexandrian texts are the “oldest and best” and also believe there are potentially Gnostic corruptions to those texts absent from the TR family of manuscripts. I am increasingly going to the KJV but using other translations for clarification when the meaning of certain words have been lost to culture.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/the-critical-text-criticized.3461/

At the risk of seizing a dog by the ears, I have just offered my perspective on a thread that is one of my topics of interests. Who knows, I might well be agreeing with you!
 

NTNT58

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I’ve just joined this forum having spent a long time on another one, where I felt the Lord indicate to me that I had shared what I was supposed to there.

I personally read the NKJV but ignore the footnotes, preferring it in audiobook format. I also have Max McLean reading the KJV. I don’t accept the idea that the Alexandrian texts are the “oldest and best” and also believe there are potentially Gnostic corruptions to those texts absent from the TR family of manuscripts. I am increasingly going to the KJV but using other translations for clarification when the meaning of certain words have been lost to culture.

https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/the-critical-text-criticized.3461/

At the risk of seizing a dog by the ears, I have just offered my perspective on a thread that is one of my topics of interests. Who knows, I might well be agreeing with you!
NKJV also has some corruptions that the original KJV doesn't, it's not at the same level as the versions based on Alexandrian texts, but few of the manuscripts used in NKJV are actually Alexandrian.

I too use other translation for easier understanding, but KJV or original language for the truth.
 

Godsgirl1983

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Oh haha, I just got it
noooo,
you didn't get it.
You are trying to make it all center around you when the truth of the matter is my post nor the other persons post that it was in reference to had anything to do with you (personally) at all.
It is really very simple, and (should be) self explanatory so if I have to break it down and explain it to you step by step you really don't get it at all.
I'll just get comfortable and watch your thread while you keep talking, after all it sounds like you have A LOT to say.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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How about me answering a question with a question…

Is it possible that an eternal God who knows the end from the beginning might leave hints of His plans in His word, some of which might appear highly anachronistic from a standard “documentary” view of the Bible?

He did leave more than hints. Its written out in plain sight for everyone to read.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Why would you multiply and add randomly? What's the logic behind it?

Also, the year measured by ancient Hebrews was 360 days, not 365. :whistle:
Why not. Might as well. Thats what your boy is doing.
Why would God bother with errant measure of the year. He made the Universe and has set the time and times. If the Hebrews even did have such a calendar year.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I don't get it. Are you arguing against me? Because your video only proves my point and the words/numbers in the bible are to be used to look up additional information as proof of the Bible's divine origin. That was my point in the first place. But in addition to that, the King James version has many of these words/number combinations that other versions don't have, and since it's the most popular book and by far most popular bible ever made, it makes sense that God would put his signature inside it to verify it as the truest of all versions.

Prove me wrong.
Thats all conjecture.
You made the claim so prove the claim
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Mohammed died in 632, not 633.
You have to add the 5 days per year for the missing thats another 8.6 years so He died in either 640 or or 641. Because they didnt know about the 365 day year.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The ain fact is that God had his plan written in plain sight for anyone to read, no secret spy code required.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Any way the amcient hebrew calendar year was not 360 days. They had a very different way of measuring the year. Their year was 355 days and they had a leap year that added an entire month to the calendar making leap year something like 385 days.
 

hornetguy

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She is absolutely a troll,
And you are a rude newbie that come sweeping in thinking that you know something, insulting and accusing other long time members that have already proven who and what they are.... basically being a tool..... you should learn how to make your point kindly, then listen respectfully to responses, then respond in kind.
What is the deal with you guys (we've had more than one of you lately)...... is this parent/teacher conference week at school, or something? Frankly, I prefer it when you just play video games all day....
 

FRB72

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The ain fact is that God had his plan written in plain sight for anyone to read, no secret spy code required.
I think the ambiguity comes in the phrasing of the initial thread title. “Secret” is such a loaded word and brings to mind secret societies like the Masons who tell their initiates one thing and those in higher ranks another.

God’s hidden gems are quite unlike this, serving only to underscore the plain meaning, in the same way as the Mandelbrot set has complexity down to the smallest detail.

I definitley understand why many people back away from what must seem Gnostic and esoteric to some. Catholic mysticism and meanings beyond the plain and clear dogged the church through the Middle Ages. The refreshing bucket of cold water that was the Reformation was a good thing. One of the things it also accomplished however was to divorce exegesis from a Hebrew understanding which adds more detail, colour and richness to the beauty of God’s word.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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And you are a rude newbie that come sweeping in thinking that you know something, insulting and accusing other long time members that have already proven who and what they are.... basically being a tool..... you should learn how to make your point kindly, then listen respectfully to responses, then respond in kind.
What is the deal with you guys (we've had more than one of you lately)...... is this parent/teacher conference week at school, or something? Frankly, I prefer it when you just play video games all day....
The wierdos have been bursting out of the woodwork lately, and they are aggressive now days.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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God’s hidden gems
They arent hidden. They are spelled right out.

The problem is that these same secret code claims cant be made of a Bible printed in Chinese or Swahili. But are only found in the english translation. Which would mean that His secrets were for the English only.
 

Cameron143

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The "man" in both Matt13:44 and Matt13:45-46 is Jesus = )

(...not us).






[I don't know whether that's what "Magenta" was alluding to or not, in her post #74. :) ]
Not sure I agree. I think the parable is simply sharing an aspect of the kingdom of God. It is just one of many parables in a series speaking to the different facets of the kingdom. Besides, when was Jesus ever outside the kingdom of God?
 

shittim

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responding to #133:)
We should come to expect this? I suppose so, I know I should have seen this coming, this stage of the last of the last days in Israel and the world, the adversary will also dump out his dreck attempting to confuse the easily duped and swayed.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, we who are of the remnant, just as the adversary dumps his dreck increasingly, much more so are our prayers empowered more and more, exponentially, as we stay in Him, these last of the last days.
Thank you Lord.
blessings,
 

FRB72

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They arent hidden. They are spelled right out.

The problem is that these same secret code claims cant be made of a Bible printed in Chinese or Swahili. But are only found in the english translation. Which would mean that His secrets were for the English only.
I have always liked the legal phrase “including but not limited to” - God’s message includes but is not limited to the top level reading of His word.

On the other hand, as Mark Twain once said “It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.” In terms of truths that convict a man of his need for a salvation, I completely agree!
 

Lafftur

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Recently I came across this video on Youtube where the guy uses software to count number of occurrences of certain words in the bible and the King James version is just FILLED completely with all kinds of secret messages.


I downloaded the software (King James Pure Bible Search) and went to work... so far I found prophet Muhammad's birth and death year:oops:

I looked up all occurrences and variations of the words false, prophet and Ishmaelite. I got 633 occurences in 570 verses.

false|falsely|falsehood
prophet|prophet's|prophets|
ishmaelite|ishmael|ishmael's|ishmaelites

Now I'm wondering if it's just a coincidence/confirmation bias.

The guy's Youtube channel has a lot of other videos with countless other encoded formulas that make it just about impossible to dismiss the whole thing as coincidence or conspiracy.
Please forgive any rudeness from others… I remember a book that came out years ago called “The Bible Code.”

It was written by a Jewish Rabbi… I think…

I bet you would really enjoy that book, I did! :love:(y)