Has anyone found secret messages in the bible?

That's a common but less than adequate interpretation of 1 Thessalonians 5:22.

It doesn't use the word "appearance" in the sense "to look like a thing even though it may not be the thing."
That is not the sense of the passage... and other translations translate it differently.
Even if we stick to the KJV, and translate the Greek word as "appearance", we are still left with two possible understandings of the word "appearance"... a choice of two completely different semantic definitions, right in the English.
So even in the KJV, there are interpretative choices that need to be analyzed.

We cannot possibly use this subjective and relativistic definition of the word "appearance", because the preceding adjective "all" would magnify it to the level of absurdity, and to logical impossibility.

(I won't go into more detail on the semantics unless someone wants to talk about it more. It's all kind of boring.)


CONCLUSION:
To simplify things: it's fine to dislike something Dino says - but we can't use that particular verse to discredit him, because that isn't what the verse means.


(In all fairness, I used to interpret this verse in the same way, and I don't think this semantic misunderstanding makes anyone a bad person, or open to ridicule. There is just a more precise and logical way to interpret the verse, which fits better in the context and within Biblical principles.)

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That's a common but less than adequate interpretation of 1 Thessalonians 5:22.

It doesn't use the word "appearance" in the sense "to look like a thing even though it may not be the thing."
That is not the sense of the passage... and other translations translate it differently.
Even if we stick to the KJV, and translate the Greek word as "appearance", we are still left with two possible understandings of the word "appearance"... a choice of two completely different semantic definitions, right in the English.
So even in the KJV, there are interpretative choices that need to be analyzed.

We cannot possibly use this subjective and relativistic definition of the word "appearance", because the preceding adjective "all" would magnify it to the level of absurdity, and to logical impossibility.

(I won't go into more detail on the semantics unless someone wants to talk about it more. It's all kind of boring.)


CONCLUSION:
To simplify things: it's fine to dislike something Dino says - but we can't use that particular verse to discredit him, because that isn't what the verse means.


(In all fairness, I used to interpret this verse in the same way, and I don't think this semantic misunderstanding makes anyone a bad person, or open to ridicule. There is just a more precise and logical way to interpret the verse, which fits better in the context and within Biblical principles.)

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Papal succession is a thing. Also, Peter was given the keys to heaven by Jesus, which was a type of king who gave the keys to his stewart in Isiah 22. The keys are to be passed down to his successors.

I never claimed Peter (or the current Pope) is infallible. As a matter of fact I claimed that the Catholic church is full of corruption and lies, but that doesn't mean they don't have authority according to the Bible. You are using the same faulty logic to try and discredit their authority, but goodness or evil have no bearing on how legitimate the authority is. Obviously Peter was a lot more humble than his corrupt successors, but that doesn't change the fact they are his lawful successors.

it sure is a thing

Peter does not have the keys to his own house, let alone heaven

this is total nonsense and it not found in the Bible....only in the gigantic edifice found in Italy

right. that is what we all need. a corrupt, lying bunch of people with authority

sounds like most governments these days

Anyone who truly belives in God will have works correlating with their belief and they will be saved. Those who justify sin do not truly believe.

There is far more division among the hundreds it not thousands of protestant denominations than there are among the Catholic church. I'm seeking to unite Christians under one church, while you are seeking to divide and abandon the one universal church that was originally started by Jesus.

Cut the chase, my friend. Do you believe in Textual Criticism or not?

Please clarify: Are you here primarily to convert protestant Christians to Catholicism?

You hold to the KJV, which is the direct product of textual criticism...

primarily by Erasmus and secondarily by the KJV translators.

Actually, I believe Psalms 12:6-7. God preserved His Word perfectly.

KJV says practice and observe EVERYTHING they tell you, not just things relating to scripture. Romans 13:1 tells everyone to obey ALL authority, including corrupt and evil governments (as long as their commands don't contradict God's word). So we must obey ALL authority at ALL times, not just when they tell us to follow scripture.



Peter was listed first among disciples (Matt. 10:1-4, Mark 3:16-19, Luke 6:14-16, Acts 1:13).
Peter was the one who generally spoke for the apostles (Matt. 18:21, Mark 8:29, Luke 12:41, John 6:68-69), and he figured in many of the most dramatic scenes (Matt. 14:28-32, 17:24-27; Mark 10:23-28).
On Pentecost it was Peter who first preached to the crowds (Acts 2:14-40), and he worked the first healing in the Church age (Acts 3:6-7).
It is Peter’s faith that will strengthen his brethren (Luke 22:32) and Peter is given Christ’s flock to shepherd (John 21:17).
An angel was sent to announce the resurrection to Peter (Mark 16:7), and the risen Christ appeared first to Peter (Luke 24:34).
He headed the meeting that elected Matthias to replace Judas (Acts 1:13-26), and he received the first converts (Acts 2:41).
He inflicted the first punishment (Acts 5:1-11) and excommunicated the first heretic (Acts 8:18-23).
He led the first council in Jerusalem (Acts 15) and announced the first dogmatic decision (Acts 15:7-11).
It was to Peter that the revelation came that Gentiles were to be baptized and accepted as Christians (Acts 10:46-48).
Jesus gave Peter the keys to heaven in Mathew 16:19 because he was the first one to acknowledge him as the Messiah.
After the Resurrection, Jesus appeared to his disciples and asked Peter three times, “Do you love me?” (John 21:15-17). In repentance for his threefold denial, Peter gave a threefold affirmation of love. Then Christ, the Good Shepherd (John 10:11, 14), gave Peter the authority he earlier had promised: “Feed my sheep” (John 21:17). This specifically included the other apostles, since Jesus asked Peter, “Do you love me more than these?” (John 21:15), the word “these” referring to the other apostles who were present (John 21:2).

It doesn't matter if they are apostate, just like it doesn't matter if the government is corrupt, Romans 13:1 tells us to obey ALL authority, and there is plenty of evidence of the authority held by the Catholic church.



Interesting how you mention Revelation 17-18 which talks about Babylon, while in Jeremaya 27:17 God tells his people through prophet Jeremaya to serve the king of Babylon. This further aligns with Romans 13:1 telling us to obey ALL authority because all authority is ultimately from God and rebelling against it is rebelling against God. Nowhere does it say obey ALL authority "as long as it's not apostate" or "as long as it's not pagan", the Bible clearly says ALL authority is from God. It doesn't matter how much you or I hate a particular government or the Catholic church, the only reason they are in power is because God decided so. And the only reason any evil is in power is because God is using it to chastise his people. Rebelling against God's chastisement will only bring more chastisement upon you and others.

Where did I say that gematria value of Jesus is 888? I don't recall ever saying anything like that.

As soon as I started seeing curse word after curse word I closed the video. Nothing Godly comes from unchristian behavior.

I don't recall the video I posted even having gematria. If it did it's a very tiny part, something like 0.1% of the numbers mentioned. Gematria is NOT counting the number of word occurrences, which is what the video is about.

book of Jeremaya ???

One of the souces I looked up teaching the Bible Code. Problem is, If one pulls all the books adivacting this stuff, they will not agree on values assigned to names. Whorse, they can not justifly why they do math other than assigned numbers to letters and even that does not agree.

gematria is the orginal source for all this numbers stuff.