Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition

Genesis 1:6-8
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Genesis 1:9-10
And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

There are only two "waters", one above the firmament, and one below. And the one below He further divided into Earth and Seas. The fountains of the great deep would be the seas, from below the firmament. So if the water that fell to earth from the 'windows of heaven' didn't come from above the firmament, then where did it come from?

For your consideration:
Matthew 24:29
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"

Revelation 6:13
"And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind."

Revelation 12:4
"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born."

Question: How far will those stars fall from heaven to earth?

The entire chapter is metaphorical, so it's unreasonable to pick this one word out and apply a literal interpretation to it.

What chapter - Matthew 24, Revelation 6, or Revelation 12...???

Within the firmament... as in clouds. While Genesis 2:5 says it had not rained yet by that time, Scripture says nothing about it not raining at all for several millenia prior to the flood. In 7:4, God tells Noah that it's going to rain, but He doesn't explain what "rain" is, suggesting that Noah already knew.

Let's determine first whether these "stars" are literal stars in the sky. I suggest that they aren't, but rather they are metaphorical. The entire chapter is metaphorical, so it's unreasonable to pick this one word out and apply a literal interpretation to it.

What chapter - Matthew 24, Revelation 6, or Revelation 12...???

Rev 12.

I figure in the 120 years Noah was building the ark...

I know the reason you asked the question was essentially to point out that no one is willing to address is the initial question of this thread: So how far did the water fall to the earth? It is the DISTANCE no one wants to deal with, but then, that's the point of the proposition, is to get one to think seriously about what the Word of God teaches in Genesis chapter 1. No one on a "Christian" forum wants to outright deny the Word of God, and they don't know what else to say (because It says what It says), do they don't say anything (at least not anything that addresses the thread's focus).

Matthew 24:29
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"

Revelation 6:13
"And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind."

Question: How far will those stars fall from heaven to earth?

Not to mention - the size of every star is considered (by the BE model) to be so much larger than the earth - how is that going to work?

Has anyone demonstrated the [earth science] model explained on post #14? Done the math? Reasoned how inconsistant it is with Scripture? Anyone?

I have done the math and reasoned how inconsistant it is with scripture.

It would surely be nice if others who have also done so would be willing to give their voice to this issue.

Anyone else?

There's nothing said about God creating any heaven or firmament on day 1. Just Day and Night.

Eh? Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Hebrew writers commonly when writing would make a "blanket" statement, then 'back up' and give the detail. A good example of this is Adam and Eve. Genesis 1:27 states, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." The next chapter details how He did it (breathed into Adam's nostrils, took his rib, etc). God didn't create man twice; just declared it, then later gave more detail. This is the idea from the beginning of chapter 1. "In the beginning God created the heaven{s} and the earth." This is the 'blanket' statement. This is what He did in summary. Then, beginning in verse 3, we read the detail. Notice that each day begins with, "And God said...", and then explains all that He did that day. So day 1 would be represented in verses 3-5, Day and Night.

Scripture Based Flat Earth Proposition (Part Four : The Question)

Since God placed the luminaries withIN the firmament . . .

In the days of Noah when He opened the windows of heaven,
how far did the water fall to the earth?

A hundred miles? A thousand miles? Or was it 25 trillion miles???

Proxima Centauri is said to be the closest star at 4.2465 light years away. That’s 24.93 trillion miles.

So how far did the water fall to the earth?


**Note also that about 1000 years before the coming of Christ (over 1300 years after the flood)
king David declared that the waters were still there when he wrote,
“Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens”.
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What has that got to do with your statement: There's nothing said about God creating any heaven or firmament on day 1.

6500 to 10,000 feet.
Judges 5:4 (ESV)
4 “Lord, when you went out from Seir,
when you marched from the region of Edom,
the earth trembled
and the heavens dropped,
yes, the clouds dropped water.

Genesis 9:14 (ESV)
14 When I bring clouds over the earth and the bow is seen in the clouds,

Genesis 9:13 (ESV)
13 I have set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and the earth.

Yes, but this was after the flood.

Yes, but this was after the flood.

Everything.
"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." (Genesis 1:3-5) doesn't say anything about heaven or firmament. [Day 1]