Proof That Catholics Worship Mary

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Eli1

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except when God says it ... and yes it pushes fplks away
Refer to the Blue Pill thread for more clarity or give me something of what you're taking so we can be in agreement.
 

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Refer to the Blue Pill thread for more clarity or give me something of what you're taking so we can be in agreement.
Yes I make you angry don't I. this pleases me.

... I know you, the born again saint who rebelled and kicked against God's church by joining the apostates.
 

Eli1

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Yes I make you angry don't I. this pleases me.

... I know you, the born again saint who rebelled and kicked against God's church by joining the apostates.
Well, all that's left to do is be like David and pray for your "enemies" death. :ROFL:
 

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Well, all that's left to do is be like David and pray for your "enemies" death. :ROFL:
death to self would suffice ... there is nothing sadder this side of glory than somebody who knows the truth but turns away in a rage ... like Naaman the Syrian, but his servants prevailed upon him to turn back to the prophet and dip himself in that muddy Jordan River.
 

Eli1

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death to self would suffice ... there is nothing sadder this side of glory than somebody who knows the truth but turns away in a rage ... like Naaman the Syrian, but his servants prevailed upon him to turn back to the prophet and dip himself in that muddy Jordan River.
This typically completes the circle of blue pill when one does not have peace in God but always anger.
 

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About the "Holy Rosary" prayer
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This is the most powerful Christian prayer that will connect you to the light,
Those who do it every day will achieve peace and tranquility in the heart and soul, will distance themselves from dark beings and evil people and things in life, will not have bad dreams but can join higher light worlds at night.
With each part of the rosary, you send light into your life and soul, yourself and the people you know and have around you, you also cleanse your soul like when you visit the confessional.
....
For the greatest defense against darkness in life and the spiritual realm, and to achieve complete peace of mind and soul, do all 4 parts of the Holy Rosary, the Divine Mercy chaplet, and read the Biblical Stations of the Cross every day.
 

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I see this: there is no other mediator between God and man, but the Man Jesus Christ
The way, the truth and the new life offered to all in his risen Life, after his death first took away all sin on that cross in his shed blood, done once for us all. Hebrews 10:10
Leaving, everyone to decide between God and them, to believe Son took away all sin on that cross, everything but "Unbelief" to God
Jesus yelled "it is finished" John 19:30
What is finished? His Job, what he came to earth to do Matt 5:17, Law is not destroyed, it is fulfilled along with all the Prophets Hebrews 1:1-4, Jesus as the Son was/is perfect forever, is risen to never die again for anymore sin. John 1:29 fulfilled, That is done.
therefore we the people each personally can decide to believe God personally, raised Son from the dead, to give us the people new life in God's Spirit and Truth John 4:23-24, and love everyone in God's Love and mercy of 1 Cor 13:4-7
We those that see this truth, can and do identify the trees as good. or not good instantly. Yet these kids, do not war against those they see as need God to believe in, the Father of the risen Son Jesus for them.
This be what I see after a long walk off a short pier here on earth. I did not see me as deceived in the start, yet God saw and I am still in process, reckoning me as dead daily, thanks yet alive as in Acts 17:28
 

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About the "Holy Rosary" prayer
..
This is the most powerful Christian prayer that will connect you to the light,
Those who do it every day will achieve peace and tranquility in the heart and soul, will distance themselves from dark beings and evil people and things in life, will not have bad dreams but can join higher light worlds at night.
With each part of the rosary, you send light into your life and soul, yourself and the people you know and have around you, you also cleanse your soul like when you visit the confessional.
....
For the greatest defense against darkness in life and the spiritual realm, and to achieve complete peace of mind and soul, do all 4 parts of the Holy Rosary, the Divine Mercy chaplet, and read the Biblical Stations of the Cross every day.
This sounds like something Ghandi or the Dalai Lama would say.
 

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About the "Holy Rosary" prayer
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This is the most powerful Christian prayer that will connect you to the light,
Those who do it every day will achieve peace and tranquility in the heart and soul, will distance themselves from dark beings and evil people and things in life, will not have bad dreams but can join higher light worlds at night.
With each part of the rosary, you send light into your life and soul, yourself and the people you know and have around you, you also cleanse your soul like when you visit the confessional.
....
For the greatest defense against darkness in life and the spiritual realm, and to achieve complete peace of mind and soul, do all 4 parts of the Holy Rosary, the Divine Mercy chaplet, and read the Biblical Stations of the Cross every day.

Hello friend,
I used to be Roman Catholic and was rightly taught that Jesus is the Son of God, the Holy Trinity, virgin birth of Christ and that the Bible is the Word of God. I'm grateful for what my Mom taught me to pray at meals and in her Sunday school class.

As a teenager I was asked about where I thought I'd go when I die. I wasn't sure, but thought that God would not want to hide that from us. I also believe that every priest and pastor is supposed to go to the Bible for instructions and correction above any man's opinion.

Someone cared enough to share the following basic truth with me from God's Word. I want to pass that forward to you now too.
Have a good day. 📖🙂👍

>Heaven <
 
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"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images." —Isaiah 42:8

There is not a more damnable doctrine in Roman Catholicism than the teachings ofOur Lady of Fatima. Roman Catholic officials claim that a supernatural event occurred in 1917 in which theBlessed Virgin Maryappeared repeatedly to 3 little children in Fatima, Portugal. Supposedly, theVirgin Marygave a message to the 3 children—Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco—consisting of anallegednumber of precise predictions, requests, warnings andpromisesconcerning the Catholic faith. An "apparition" means "the unexpected or unusual appearance of a ghostly figure."

The 5th of the15 promisesmade byOur Lady of Fatimaconcerning the Rosary is so blasphemous that it is unmistakable, clear, proof, that Catholics do indeed worship Mary (which is sinful idolatry). Here's the 5th promise...

The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. —SOURCE

Blasphemy!!! You cannot show me even one Scripture from the Word of God where we are told to trust in Mary, by reciting theRosaryto be saved. In fact, the word "Rosary" is NOT a Bible term. TheRosary is straight out of the pits of Hell. Jesus condemnedvain repetitionin Matthew 6:7. According toOur Lady of Fatima(whose teachings are officially sanctioned by the Vatican), a person can obtain eternal life through Mary by reciting the Rosary. In sharp contrast, Jesus Christ proclaimed in John 14:6... "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me." How could Catholics be so arrogant, so blind, and so apostate as to believe that salvation is found in Mary? I tell you, Catholicism is of the Devil.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ has absolutely nothing to do with Mary. None of the Apostles ever mentioned Mary in their Epistles. Jesus never directed us to recognize Mary. In fact, the Bible clearly states in Matthew 11:11 that there has never been a child born amongst women greater thanJohn the Baptist. And no wonder, becauseJohn the Baptistprepared the people for the coming of the Savior—Jesus Christ,the Lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world(John 1:29). Yet, Catholics sinfully worship Mary, bowing to her statue as if she's a god.Unbelievably, during one rosary recital (a chaplet), a Catholic will recite 53 hail Marys! Each "Hail Mary" recital is 42 words long. 42 x 53 = 2,226 words just praising Mary! The devout Catholic who prays the rosary every day will praise Mary with 812,490 words in a year's time. That is idolatry! Again,Our Lady of Fatimasaid...

The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. —SOURCE

That's a BIG LIE!!! The Vatican has a lot of explaining to do, because something smells very rotten. One of the most unholy groups in this world is the Holy See, i.e., Catholic leadership. They wrote the book on self-righteousness. No devout Catholic dare deny the promises ofOur Lady of Fatima, i.e., theirBlessed Virgin Mary. The Catholic Mary (which is nowhere even close to the Biblical Mary) claims to have the power to save those who recite the Rosary. No wonder Catholicism's Mary is often referred to asThe Great Whore. Catholics have mutated Jesus' earthly mother into a two-headed, fire-breathing, demonic, monster.

The Biblical Mary was a horrible sinner (James 2:10), who needed a Savior (Luke 1:47), and told others to do what Jesus commanded (John 2:5). The Biblical Mary was not aPerpetual Virgin(Matthew 13:55-56), was notImmaculately Conceived(Romans 3:23), wasn'tBodily Assumedinto Heaven (Hebrews 9:27), and she doesn't intercede on our behalf (1st Timothy 2:5... "For there is one God, andone mediatorbetween God and men, the man Christ Jesus"). TheBlessed Virgin Maryof the Catholic religion is straight from Hell.

Oh! Listen my friend, the Catholic Church is aprisonhouseof religion! Catholics have churchianity without Christianity, and religion without truth. From the cradle to the casket, the Catholic Church offers people a package deal; but it's a guaranteed road straight into the depths of Hellfire and damnation. In Luke 17:21, Jesus stated that theKingdom of Godis within you; not within a religious organization. Many people want an organized religion that allows them to touch, taste, see, and feel what they're trusting in for eternal life. However, true salvation, which is obtained onlyby faithin Christ Jesus, isof the heart(Romans 10:10).

I can sense the passion and conviction behind your words, but also a deep-seated misunderstanding and hurt. I'd like to offer a gentle yet firm response.

I acknowledge that the veneration of Mary, the Mother of God, can be a source of confusion and even offense to some of our Protestant brethren. it's essential to recognize that Catholic devotion to Mary is not idolatrous worship, but rather a filial affection and reverence for the one who bore the Son of God.

I'd suggest that the intense reaction against Our Lady of Fatima and the Rosary may be indicative of an unconscious fear or discomfort with the feminine and maternal aspects of faith. The Catholic Church's emphasis on Mary's role in salvation history is not meant to detract from the centrality of Christ, but rather to illuminate the significant significance of his Incarnation and the role of women in the divine plan.

I'd like to respectfully point out that the Scriptural evidence presented in your critique is often taken out of context or misinterpreted. For instance, Matthew 6:7 does caution against vain repetition, but it does not condemn the use of prayer formulas or devotional practices like the Rosary, which can be a powerful tool for contemplation and spiritual growth.

I'm also struck by the emotional tone of your writing, which suggests a deep-seated anger and frustration with the Catholic Church. I understand that the Church is not perfect, and we have made mistakes throughout history. I implore you to consider the possibility that your perceptions of Catholicism may be influenced by past experiences, biases, or misinformation.

In the spirit of ecumenical dialogue and mutual understanding, I extend an invitation to engage in a more constructive and respectful conversation about our differences. By listening to each other's perspectives and seeking common ground, we may discover that our shared love for Christ and the Gospel can overcome even the most seemingly insurmountable obstacles.
 

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I can sense the passion and conviction behind your words, but also a deep-seated misunderstanding and hurt. I'd like to offer a gentle yet firm response.

I acknowledge that the veneration of Mary, the Mother of God, can be a source of confusion and even offense to some of our Protestant brethren. it's essential to recognize that Catholic devotion to Mary is not idolatrous worship, but rather a filial affection and reverence for the one who bore the Son of God.

I'd suggest that the intense reaction against Our Lady of Fatima and the Rosary may be indicative of an unconscious fear or discomfort with the feminine and maternal aspects of faith. The Catholic Church's emphasis on Mary's role in salvation history is not meant to detract from the centrality of Christ, but rather to illuminate the significant significance of his Incarnation and the role of women in the divine plan.

I'd like to respectfully point out that the Scriptural evidence presented in your critique is often taken out of context or misinterpreted. For instance, Matthew 6:7 does caution against vain repetition, but it does not condemn the use of prayer formulas or devotional practices like the Rosary, which can be a powerful tool for contemplation and spiritual growth.

I'm also struck by the emotional tone of your writing, which suggests a deep-seated anger and frustration with the Catholic Church. I understand that the Church is not perfect, and we have made mistakes throughout history. I implore you to consider the possibility that your perceptions of Catholicism may be influenced by past experiences, biases, or misinformation.

In the spirit of ecumenical dialogue and mutual understanding, I extend an invitation to engage in a more constructive and respectful conversation about our differences. By listening to each other's perspectives and seeking common ground, we may discover that our shared love for Christ and the Gospel can overcome even the most seemingly insurmountable obstacles.
I am not Catholic nor do I claim any specific Protestant denomination. Not that I know anything at all. However, in my studies I find many things that Catholics seem to understand better than many Protestants. Catholics are much more in tune with miracles and experiences that are certainly part of biblical text. For Protestants it is text only. They rarely even attempt to read between the lines for fear of having to think for themselves. Much less be truly lead by the spirit, also extremely biblical.
My point is not to criticize but rather to see the many constructive ideas that the Catholic faith offers.
 

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About the "Holy Rosary" prayer
..
This is the most powerful Christian prayer that will connect you to the light,
Those who do it every day will achieve peace and tranquility in the heart and soul, will distance themselves from dark beings and evil people and things in life, will not have bad dreams but can join higher light worlds at night.
With each part of the rosary, you send light into your life and soul, yourself and the people you know and have around you, you also cleanse your soul like when you visit the confessional.
....
For the greatest defense against darkness in life and the spiritual realm, and to achieve complete peace of mind and soul, do all 4 parts of the Holy Rosary, the Divine Mercy chaplet, and read the Biblical Stations of the Cross every day.
I used to do all of that stuff but later, as I grew older, I realized that it was all unbiblical and without a scriptural basis. To me, the most powerful Christian prayer is the one that Jesus taught, that is, the Lord's prayer. I say this every morning. Good way to start the day for sure.
 

Eli1

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Personally, I am trending towards the Red pill.
Agreed.
People say that 'God doesn't give you more than you can't handle'.
I've thought about this for a long time.

When you don't know something, you're sort of shielded mentally and it's a really nice feeling. You can do and say a lot of dumb things without even realizing what you're saying. That's how my childhood was.
But as you grow and gain more knowledge, you then realize that this is too much for you alone to handle.
So then you have to call His name and leave it on His hands.
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."
So after that, you're still in that shielded state but you are aware of it. And the shield can sometimes break but He can build it again.
 

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About the "Holy Rosary" prayer
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This is the most powerful Christian prayer that will connect you to the light,
Those who do it every day will achieve peace and tranquility in the heart and soul, will distance themselves from dark beings and evil people and things in life, will not have bad dreams but can join higher light worlds at night.
With each part of the rosary, you send light into your life and soul, yourself and the people you know and have around you, you also cleanse your soul like when you visit the confessional.
....
For the greatest defense against darkness in life and the spiritual realm, and to achieve complete peace of mind and soul, do all 4 parts of the Holy Rosary, the Divine Mercy chaplet, and read the Biblical Stations of the Cross every day.
This is silly Catholic propaganda dumbed down. Instead of wasting your time with Catholic errors, just learn and apply Scripture. Start with Ephesians 6:10-18.
 

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Agreed.
People say that 'God doesn't give you more than you can't handle'.
I've thought about this for a long time.

When you don't know something, you're sort of shielded mentally and it's a really nice feeling. You can do and say a lot of dumb things without even realizing what you're saying. That's how my childhood was.
But as you grow and gain more knowledge, you then realize that this is too much for you alone to handle.
So then you have to call His name and leave it on His hands.
Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest."
So after that, you're still in that shielded state but you are aware of it. And the shield can sometimes break but He can build it again.
There is a saying "Ignorance is bliss". I believe that there is an element of truth to that. Of course, there will eventually come a day of reckoning. Like the old Fram oil filter saying from years ago "Pay 'em now or pay 'em later". Payback is *****.
 

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"I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images." —Isaiah 42:8

There is not a more damnable doctrine in Roman Catholicism than the teachings ofOur Lady of Fatima. Roman Catholic officials claim that a supernatural event occurred in 1917 in which theBlessed Virgin Maryappeared repeatedly to 3 little children in Fatima, Portugal. Supposedly, theVirgin Marygave a message to the 3 children—Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco—consisting of anallegednumber of precise predictions, requests, warnings andpromisesconcerning the Catholic faith. An "apparition" means "the unexpected or unusual appearance of a ghostly figure."

The 5th of the15 promisesmade byOur Lady of Fatimaconcerning the Rosary is so blasphemous that it is unmistakable, clear, proof, that Catholics do indeed worship Mary (which is sinful idolatry). Here's the 5th promise...

The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. —SOURCE

Blasphemy!!! You cannot show me even one Scripture from the Word of God where we are told to trust in Mary, by reciting theRosaryto be saved. In fact, the word "Rosary" is NOT a Bible term. TheRosary is straight out of the pits of Hell. Jesus condemnedvain repetitionin Matthew 6:7. According toOur Lady of Fatima(whose teachings are officially sanctioned by the Vatican), a person can obtain eternal life through Mary by reciting the Rosary. In sharp contrast, Jesus Christ proclaimed in John 14:6... "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me." How could Catholics be so arrogant, so blind, and so apostate as to believe that salvation is found in Mary? I tell you, Catholicism is of the Devil.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ has absolutely nothing to do with Mary. None of the Apostles ever mentioned Mary in their Epistles. Jesus never directed us to recognize Mary. In fact, the Bible clearly states in Matthew 11:11 that there has never been a child born amongst women greater thanJohn the Baptist. And no wonder, becauseJohn the Baptistprepared the people for the coming of the Savior—Jesus Christ,the Lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world(John 1:29). Yet, Catholics sinfully worship Mary, bowing to her statue as if she's a god.Unbelievably, during one rosary recital (a chaplet), a Catholic will recite 53 hail Marys! Each "Hail Mary" recital is 42 words long. 42 x 53 = 2,226 words just praising Mary! The devout Catholic who prays the rosary every day will praise Mary with 812,490 words in a year's time. That is idolatry! Again,Our Lady of Fatimasaid...

The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish. —SOURCE

That's a BIG LIE!!! The Vatican has a lot of explaining to do, because something smells very rotten. One of the most unholy groups in this world is the Holy See, i.e., Catholic leadership. They wrote the book on self-righteousness. No devout Catholic dare deny the promises ofOur Lady of Fatima, i.e., theirBlessed Virgin Mary. The Catholic Mary (which is nowhere even close to the Biblical Mary) claims to have the power to save those who recite the Rosary. No wonder Catholicism's Mary is often referred to asThe Great Whore. Catholics have mutated Jesus' earthly mother into a two-headed, fire-breathing, demonic, monster.

The Biblical Mary was a horrible sinner (James 2:10), who needed a Savior (Luke 1:47), and told others to do what Jesus commanded (John 2:5). The Biblical Mary was not aPerpetual Virgin(Matthew 13:55-56), was notImmaculately Conceived(Romans 3:23), wasn'tBodily Assumedinto Heaven (Hebrews 9:27), and she doesn't intercede on our behalf (1st Timothy 2:5... "For there is one God, andone mediatorbetween God and men, the man Christ Jesus"). TheBlessed Virgin Maryof the Catholic religion is straight from Hell.

Oh! Listen my friend, the Catholic Church is aprisonhouseof religion! Catholics have churchianity without Christianity, and religion without truth. From the cradle to the casket, the Catholic Church offers people a package deal; but it's a guaranteed road straight into the depths of Hellfire and damnation. In Luke 17:21, Jesus stated that theKingdom of Godis within you; not within a religious organization. Many people want an organized religion that allows them to touch, taste, see, and feel what they're trusting in for eternal life. However, true salvation, which is obtained onlyby faithin Christ Jesus, isof the heart(Romans 10:10).
I have Roman catholic relatives, I work with Roman catholics in hospital.
I do not need a proof. Sadly, I know they do it!