What is the point in being a prophet?

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Bob-Carabbio

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Marilyn said:
Being a Prophet one is called to encourage, build up and exhort the Body of Christ. (Eph. 4: 12)

It is also of Jesus. `For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of Prophecy.` (Rev. 19: 10)
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Much more basic than that: A Prophets Speak the words THAT GOD GIVES THEM, to THE AUDIENCE GOD SELECTS, at a time determined by Him alone.

It MAY BE "Encouragement", "WARNING", "Exhortation", "Word of Wisdom", "Word of Knowledge", "Foretelling", "Tongues", or "interpretation of Tongues". ANY "Spoken gift" is in the prophetic category.

A genuine "Prophet" Adds nothing to, and subtracts nothing from the utterance that they're given. A Genuine Prophet doesn't personally make up from their own mind what is to be spoken - EVER.
 
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I took my sign to Milwaukee Monday and held it up at the Protest against the RNC the leftists were holding. Then I went and held it outside the RNC security gate on the Kilbourn Ave bridge for all the Republicans attendees to see.

The next day I took it to downtown Chicago and held it up a block away from Willis Tower on the Adams Street bridge.

I go to witness and share Christ with a lot of people through my sign.
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The Democratic National Convention is in Chicago is this week. I went there ahead of time and prophesied right after the RNC. I wish I had the money to go back and prophesy again.

Before I went to Chicago, God had put it in my heart to go to Miami and prophesy. Then I met a woman (I'm pretty certain I was speaking to an angel) who told me about going to Miami. Then I heard in a dream that I should go to Miami and a few hours after I woke up from that dream, I saw a testimony video of a man and the first thing he talked about was living in Miami.

I'm so completely flat broke (and in a bit of debt), that I cannot go to Miami. But I am 100% certain that when He wants me to go, He'll provide me with everything I need to go. I believe there is a reason He wants me to go prophesy in Miami.
 
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God sent someone to me who said, "God wanted me to give you this." It was enough money to pay my bills for the month and to go to Miami to prophesy with my sign.

If you live in Miami, maybe you'll see me this weekend. God bless y'all!
 
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God sent someone to me who said, "God wanted me to give you this." It was enough money to pay my bills for the month and to go to Miami to prophesy with my sign.

If you live in Miami, maybe you'll see me this weekend. God bless y'all!
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I would rather meet the person handing out the money.
 
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voiceinthewild said:
I know this is my first thread, but I came to this site to ask people's opinions.

God has called me to be a prophet, but I don't understand the point of it. What good is it to know what is going to happen? What good is it to tell people what's going to happen?

When I do tell people what is going to happen, they don't believe me and they come up with any explanation they can to say that what God has shown me will happen won't happen.

Deuteronomy 18:21,22 gives the test of a prophet: "[SUP]21 [/SUP]You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” [SUP]22 [/SUP]If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed." I will pass that test when what God has shown me comes to pass. The only problem is that when what I say comes to pass, there will not be anyone alive or on this forum to verify it.

Even the most devout Christians on this forum will not be able to accept what I have to say. God is going to do a thing so great and terrible that you cannot even fathom it, let alone accept it. And again I ask, what good is it for me to tell anyone? I fear, and think I know deep down in my heart, that God has raised me up to be the unheard prophet: a raving madman preaching from the street corner about what He is going to do and that no one will listen or heed my warning. And then it will be too late.
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A prophet warns what will happen if the present attitudes and behaviour of his audience continues. The purpose of prophesying threats is to have people repent and change course so that the warned calamity is averted. This is what happened to Nineveh in response to Jonah's message. And to Hezekiah threatened with imminent death.

Not all prophecies God gives are fulfilled. Some He hopes will not happen because men change their hearts.
 
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voiceinthewild said:
I know this is my first thread, but I came to this site to ask people's opinions.

God has called me to be a prophet, but I don't understand the point of it. What good is it to know what is going to happen? What good is it to tell people what's going to happen?

When I do tell people what is going to happen, they don't believe me and they come up with any explanation they can to say that what God has shown me will happen won't happen.

Deuteronomy 18:21,22 gives the test of a prophet: "[SUP]21 [/SUP]You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” [SUP]22 [/SUP]If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed." I will pass that test when what God has shown me comes to pass. The only problem is that when what I say comes to pass, there will not be anyone alive or on this forum to verify it.

Even the most devout Christians on this forum will not be able to accept what I have to say. God is going to do a thing so great and terrible that you cannot even fathom it, let alone accept it. And again I ask, what good is it for me to tell anyone? I fear, and think I know deep down in my heart, that God has raised me up to be the unheard prophet: a raving madman preaching from the street corner about what He is going to do and that no one will listen or heed my warning. And then it will be too late.
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Biblically, to prophesy means to have communication from God. In the Old Testament, people prophesized after they received the Holy Spirit of God. When we get baptized in the name of the Holy Spirit by believing and trusting in Jesus, we receive a portal through which the Father and Son can enter our beings through which they can communicate, enlighten, empower, and perfect. Biblical prophesy is not necessarily predicting the future. I hate to break it to you, but if you don't know the point of being a prophet, you haven't received the Holy Spirit and you are not a prophet.
 
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I hate to break it to you, but if you don't know the point of being a prophet, you haven't received the Holy Spirit and you are not a prophet.
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I know the "actual" point of being a prophet. When I made this thread eight years ago, I lamented the fact that no one listens when I prophesy. Something other prophets experienced as well. The point was, if all prophets can do is look back and say, "God told ya so", it kind of seems pointless, doesn't it?

I even prophesied that most people who read this thread wouldn't believe me. And I'm not sure many have. But I've been learning more and more to die to myself and to kill my ego. I'm still a work in progress some days. I've argued with God sometimes that I'm not the right guy for this because I struggle with my ego. I'd rather run off into the wilderness and not be anybody great than to try to take His well-deserved honor and glory.
 
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I have to admit that there are times when people I know are trying to warn others about the end times, and I'm thinking to myself, will people change because of fear? Non-Christians won't care because they won't believe. They believe that a utopia can be achieved by man's efforts on earth. Are we trying to change them through fear? What about Christians? 1 John 4: 18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casteth out fear, because fear hath punishment. If you have to make changes to your life, you are not living a Christian life.
 
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jonchristian said:
I know the "actual" point of being a prophet. When I made this thread eight years ago, I lamented the fact that no one listens when I prophesy. Something other prophets experienced as well. The point was, if all prophets can do is look back and say, "God told ya so", it kind of seems pointless, doesn't it?

I even prophesied that most people who read this thread wouldn't believe me. And I'm not sure many have. But I've been learning more and more to die to myself and to kill my ego. I'm still a work in progress some days. I've argued with God sometimes that I'm not the right guy for this because I struggle with my ego. I'd rather run off into the wilderness and not be anybody great than to try to take His well-deserved honor and glory.
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I'm glad that you realize that you are a work in progress. Pray to God that He will help you to do His will in your life. That was Jesus' bread in this life, and it should be our bread as well. 1 John 4: 17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as he is, so are we in this world.
 
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Are true prophets ever a "work in progress?" Seems to me you either have it or you don't. The idea that prophets have to refine their skills and become better messengers of the messages God gives them is a relatively modern idea. I don't see this in scripture.
 
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decipher said:
Are we trying to change them through fear?
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The warnings in the Bible are for unbelievers so that they may fear and repent. "We" are not the one's doing anything other than presenting what the Bible says.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
Are true prophets ever a "work in progress?" Seems to me you either have it or you don't. The idea that prophets have to refine their skills and become better messengers of the messages God gives them is a relatively modern idea. I don't see this in scripture.
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No. It is definitely not in Scripture. This is all modern nonsense. There are no true prophets today.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
Are true prophets ever a "work in progress?" Seems to me you either have it or you don't. The idea that prophets have to refine their skills and become better messengers of the messages God gives them is a relatively modern idea. I don't see this in scripture.
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I agree with you that a true prophet is not a work in progress because a true prophet is filled with the Holy Spirit through which the Father and Son work. It is with the understanding of what it's all about as well as knowing God's will through His Holy Spirit that is a work in progress. The Bible talks about giving babes in Christ milk that they can digest before giving them solid food. This milk and solid food comes from knowledge for the Christian to grow.
 
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I agree with you that a true prophet is not a work in progress because a true prophet is filled with the Holy Spirit through which the Father and Son work. It is with the understanding of what it's all about as well as knowing God's will through His Holy Spirit that is a work in progress. The Bible talks about giving babes in Christ milk that they can digest before giving them solid food. This milk and solid food comes from knowledge for the Christian to grow.
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We're all works in progress in the sense of growing spiritually in Christ. However, a true prophet doesn't have to struggle and agonize over what the Lord wants them to communicate. But this is exactly what many "prophets" say these days. They will say: God communicated his message perfectly, but I didn't quite understand it; or, I wasn't able to communicated it to others as perfectly as He communicated it to me. There are schools and workshops all over the place that claim to be able to teach people how to be better prophets. But this is all nonsense. True prophets don't have to be taught, any more than someone with the true gift of tongues has to be taught or trained how to do it; or a true healer has to be taught how to heal.
 
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decipher said:
I have to admit that there are times when people I know are trying to warn others about the end times,
and I'm thinking to myself, will people change because of fear?
Non-Christians won't care because they won't believe. They believe that a utopia can be achieved by man's
efforts on earth. Are we trying to change them through fear? What about Christians? 1 John 4: 18 There is no
fear in love, but perfect love casteth out fear, because fear hath punishment. If you have to make changes
to your life, you are not living a Christian life.
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Fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom...


Proverbs 9:10 plus Matthew 10:28
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However, a true prophet doesn't have to struggle and agonize over what the Lord wants them to communicate.
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Jonah comes to mind... Even Moses. And Elijah became so upset, he asked God to take his life.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
We're all works in progress in the sense of growing spiritually in Christ. However, a true prophet doesn't have to struggle and agonize over what the Lord wants them to communicate.
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I struggle to die to self. To kill my ego. "I must decrease so that He may increase."

That's what I meant if you go back and read it.

Your idea of the perfect prophet does not exist in the Bible btw.
 
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jonchristian said:
I know the "actual" point of being a prophet. When I made this thread eight years ago, I lamented the fact that no one listens when I prophesy. Something other prophets experienced as well. The point was, if all prophets can do is look back and say, "God told ya so", it kind of seems pointless, doesn't it?

I even prophesied that most people who read this thread wouldn't believe me. And I'm not sure many have. But I've been learning more and more to die to myself and to kill my ego. I'm still a work in progress some days. I've argued with God sometimes that I'm not the right guy for this because I struggle with my ego. I'd rather run off into the wilderness and not be anybody great than to try to take His well-deserved honor and glory.
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I'm a piece of work myself.
 
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